MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

I actually don't hate everything Bunny has said this game, which concerns me but isn't something I want to think about at the moment. I think I townread you slightly for how much I disagree with you?

Who is actually scummy?

Celaph, lfischl, you.

These games are hard because the behavioral scumtells are so easy to avoid when you have another scumteam to hunt for, so I'm expecting to be especially inaccurate early.

Why am I scummy? And don't say it's because you're scared of me or because you think I would have picked scum given the choice.

The second point is legitimate and something you're not ever going to be able to shake, sorry.

The other reason is that I'm not getting solvey vibes yet.

The other other reason is that I dislike your vote on me.

[e.m.c^42]

Also goddamn, 45 pages without me, y'all been movin' fast.

[kgray]

I'll sign up

One spot left!

I'll take it.

Great!

[e.m.c^42]

I doubt anything of import happened, but just in case - anything I want to know before starting backread?

[ghug]

I doubt anything of import happened, but just in case - anything I want to know before starting backread?

Vecna has a guilty on you.

[kgray]

Celaph, lfischl, you.

These games are hard because the behavioral scumtells are so easy to avoid when you have another scumteam to hunt for, so I'm expecting to be especially inaccurate early.

Why am I scummy? And don't say it's because you're scared of me or because you think I would have picked scum given the choice.

The second point is legitimate and something you're not ever going to be able to shake, sorry.

The other reason is that I'm not getting solvey vibes yet.

The other other reason is that I dislike your vote on me.

Well you're not convincing me that someone else deserves my vote more, so I haven't changed it yet.

I think you seem irritated this game, which reminds me of your last game, and I'm also not getting solvey vibes from you. It seems more like you're just stirring things up (brain) or going after low-hanging fruit (lfischl).

[ghug]

Why am I scummy? And don't say it's because you're scared of me or because you think I would have picked scum given the choice.

The second point is legitimate and something you're not ever going to be able to shake, sorry.

The other reason is that I'm not getting solvey vibes yet.

The other other reason is that I dislike your vote on me.

Well you're not convincing me that someone else deserves my vote more, so I haven't changed it yet.

I think you seem irritated this game, which reminds me of your last game, and I'm also not getting solvey vibes from you. It seems more like you're just stirring things up (brain) or going after low-hanging fruit (lfischl).

I am stirring things up, yes. You're not.

I'm irritated at brain a little bit because I feel like he's saying things with conscious intent to provoke me. I think I'm also a little irritable in general right now, but I can see how that would masquerade as AI.

[kgray]

The second point is legitimate and something you're not ever going to be able to shake, sorry.

The other reason is that I'm not getting solvey vibes yet.

The other other reason is that I dislike your vote on me.

Well you're not convincing me that someone else deserves my vote more, so I haven't changed it yet.

I think you seem irritated this game, which reminds me of your last game, and I'm also not getting solvey vibes from you. It seems more like you're just stirring things up (brain) or going after low-hanging fruit (lfischl).

I am stirring things up, yes. You're not.

I'm irritated at brain a little bit because I feel like he's saying things with conscious intent to provoke me. I think I'm also a little irritable in general right now, but I can see how that would masquerade as AI.

Why should I be stirring things up? I don't do that.

Also it's funny to me how you and brain are saying basically the exact same thing about each other.

[ghug]

Well you're not convincing me that someone else deserves my vote more, so I haven't changed it yet.

I think you seem irritated this game, which reminds me of your last game, and I'm also not getting solvey vibes from you. It seems more like you're just stirring things up (brain) or going after low-hanging fruit (lfischl).

I am stirring things up, yes. You're not.

I'm irritated at brain a little bit because I feel like he's saying things with conscious intent to provoke me. I think I'm also a little irritable in general right now, but I can see how that would masquerade as AI.

Why should I be stirring things up? I don't do that.

Also it's funny to me how you and brain are saying basically the exact same thing about each other.

The irony is not lost on me.

Stirring things up is good for the soul. You're asking a lot of questions without clear purpose, which reminds me of scumghug.

[damo666]

Have I been treestumped yet? Can I shitpost evermore without need to vote?

emc is scum

[e.m.c^42]

I doubt anything of import happened, but just in case - anything I want to know before starting backread?

Vecna has a guilty on you.

I'm on my knees, be gentle please.

[BobMcBob]

You're yet to explain how this benefits town.

You've yet to explain how delaying until EON harms town.

You've yet to explain how delaying until later harms aliens/mafia/SK.

Delaying until EoN is bad because there are 21 people in this game and we need to develop consensus on information sharing well in advance of when they start dying if we want to ensure that we do it.

Revealing which scum roles aren't in the game is clearly valuable to town, but we don't even need a specific use for information up front for it to be worth sharing. Town is the least informed faction, and the only reason to deny us more information as a townie is if that information will help the other factions find our PRs, which this will not do.

Could you explain the clear vauableness by any chance? And we all knew bozo would start this discussion with at least a full 24 hours to go, which he has. Revealing absent scum roles has next to no benefit when a third of them weren't dealt and can't be accounted for, scum can easily lie about their choices and most of the claims so far have been goons. Unless it was something like psychotrooper, godfather or governer, I don't see a real benefit to claiming it.

[kgray]

I am stirring things up, yes. You're not.

I'm irritated at brain a little bit because I feel like he's saying things with conscious intent to provoke me. I think I'm also a little irritable in general right now, but I can see how that would masquerade as AI.

Why should I be stirring things up? I don't do that.

Also it's funny to me how you and brain are saying basically the exact same thing about each other.

The irony is not lost on me.

Stirring things up is good for the soul. You're asking a lot of questions without clear purpose, which reminds me of scumghug.

Just because you don't understand my purpose doesn't mean I don't have one. Also my scumgame isn't like yours. I've never been daykilled, for example

[kgray]

I have townreads on Donny, Bob, and brain so far.

[bozotheclown]

Is this your serious take on that situation?

I considered it a possibility with you voting for each other early.

You said it *probably* means we're scumbuddies so it sounds like more than just considering it a possibility. I would like to know why you think that's the most likely scenario.

I was not serious about the "probably" part.

[brainbomb]

macca had some decent posts but then he just stopped

[bozotheclown]

I actually don't hate everything Bunny has said this game, which concerns me but isn't something I want to think about at the moment. I think I townread you slightly for how much I disagree with you?

Who is actually scummy?

Celaph, lfischl, you.

These games are hard because the behavioral scumtells are so easy to avoid when you have another scumteam to hunt for, so I'm expecting to be especially inaccurate early.

Why am I scummy? And don't say it's because you're scared of me or because you think I would have picked scum given the choice.

Would you have picked scum if given the chance?

[BunnyGo]

Neither

In that case, can you explain why you are not going to reveal what you discarded?

I am not convinced that revealing our discards is helpful to town, and it's not something that can be undone. So I'm not doing it until I am very certain that lots of people I trust are supporting it.

I support revealing town/not-town discards.

[BunnyGo]

Oh, I see what you meant. In that case, I hate your post slightly less.

Well there's no way you don't hate everything Bunny ever says, so I'm gonna call this a win.

I actually don't hate everything Bunny has said this game, which concerns me but isn't something I want to think about at the moment. I think I townread you slightly for how much I disagree with you?

Who is actually scummy?

I don’t think there’s anything I could do/say in early game that would reasonably concern you. That’s ok.

[kgray]

macca had some decent posts but then he just stopped

Macca uses they/them pronouns.