MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

K. What is your read on Ghug then?

Ambivalent

Intent? Last game he felt lost and embraced it. This game he feels lost and yet is pushing and pretending to be confident.

I've also noticed him copying my strategy from last game of tying the wagons and bringing up new wagons to mess with scum teams. I don't know if this is conscious on his part based on last game? It seems an easy way to hide. I did it last game as VT specifically to freak out the scum team and get reads as people jumped AND to draw attention. I did not intend to survive to KiLo last game.

Bona is not copying your tactic from last game - Because he did this very thing for the vast majority of last game too, and was in fact openly copying ghug from the game before that. It was one of the reasons why I so strongly scumread Bona last game.

Hot take. I'll go read him again from last game.

Lol u copied me

[BunnyGo]

back to ##vote celaph

...I had a complete misremembering of bona from last game. This play and posting style now seems very similar.

[kgray]

thats nice. youre still barking up the anti town tree hard so far

It's interesting that your response to a naked vote is to try to spark an argument.

Ive watched your attacks so far and it looks like a desperate attempt to attack the most obvious town players to test if theyll call you out

Do you think Bunny is obvtown?

[kgray]

so I am expendable for vote count purposes?

Hard to argue Bona's vote is meaningless when you and brain are both panicking over it, eh Bunny?

They are panicking?
I say it is more of bona's annoying trait on voting for vc than a vote for scum. This annoyed me too last game also.
Bona, do you believe brain is scum?

I like Donny and I think he's town.

[celaph]

Intent? Last game he felt lost and embraced it. This game he feels lost and yet is pushing and pretending to be confident.

After rereading Bona last game, do you still agree with this part or do you retract that too?

[kgray]

I'm not going to be on for maybe an hour and a half. Cya guys.

K, I don't need to know.

Okay, I really like Donny and I think he's town

[kgray]

I don't really feel like ghug is playing like he did last game - If anything there's been a very conscious effort to be as polar opposite to that as possible, with none of the coasting by "protecting" as many good players as possible (and therefore avoiding having to read them) that so characterised his play then.

disagree

if it quacks like a duck and fucks like a duck

I have to agree with brain here.
My hot take is that hr is scum mates with ghug.
Hr, would you say this lines up with ghug town play more?
Someone who drew scum again like Ghug would be pressed to change meta I would imagine.

I kinda doubt scum!HR's first post is gonna be defending his teammate with this much time left in the phase.

[Donny Dude]

disagree

if it quacks like a duck and fucks like a duck

I have to agree with brain here.
My hot take is that hr is scum mates with ghug.
Hr, would you say this lines up with ghug town play more?
Someone who drew scum again like Ghug would be pressed to change meta I would imagine.

I kinda doubt scum!HR's first post is gonna be defending his teammate with this much time left in the phase.

I agree, I did say hot take.
Though hr seems less active than last game.

[ghug]

I have to agree with brain here.
My hot take is that hr is scum mates with ghug.
Hr, would you say this lines up with ghug town play more?
Someone who drew scum again like Ghug would be pressed to change meta I would imagine.

I kinda doubt scum!HR's first post is gonna be defending his teammate with this much time left in the phase.

I agree, I did say hot take.
Though hr seems less active than last game.

Early inactivity is pretty NAI from HR.

[celaph]

I don't really feel like ghug is playing like he did last game - If anything there's been a very conscious effort to be as polar opposite to that as possible, with none of the coasting by "protecting" as many good players as possible (and therefore avoiding having to read them) that so characterised his play then.

I think ghug has flipped on a few key points, but his overall attitude really hasn't changed. The early kgray vote and comment about voting off town early indicate no desire to solve. He's made multiple comments about not reading the starting thread and overall he just comes off as lazy. I think that there is an argument that M62 ghug acted similarly and thus this is NAI for ghug, but I wouldn't describe it as particularly different and it is anti-town.

[Maniac]

Let’s not kill Ghug D1.

Yes there is a chance any one of you could be scum, but if Ghug is town he is a damn fine town player and we need damn find town players.

##LoveGhug

[brainbomb]

I do like the linky stuff celaph does

[brainbomb]

Let’s not kill Ghug D1.

Yes there is a chance any one of you could be scum, but if Ghug is town he is a damn fine town player and we need damn find town players.

##LoveGhug

you ignored me in m62 and m63
did you just remember the good times?

[brainbomb]

also ghug would throw out almost any role for a chance to be an sk. the fact hes claiming to be a lover is interesting given jasnahs claim.

[brainbomb]

##Vote ezio

[BunnyGo]

Intent? Last game he felt lost and embraced it. This game he feels lost and yet is pushing and pretending to be confident.

After rereading Bona last game, do you still agree with this part or do you retract that too?

Not sure. Maybe I'm remembering him from later in the game where I thought he was much more purposeful (hard for people to read, but purposeful). But the D1 lack of obv. towning seems similar both games.

[celaph]

Let’s not kill Ghug D1.

Yes there is a chance any one of you could be scum, but if Ghug is town he is a damn fine town player and we need damn find town players.

##LoveGhug

Do you have any additional thoughts on the BB wagon that you seem to be supporting? Or is it just that you think he would pick scum if given the choice?

[kgray]

also ghug would throw out almost any role for a chance to be an sk. the fact hes claiming to be a lover is interesting given jasnahs claim.

He's not claiming lover

[brainbomb]

So I had a crazy thought.

IF (maybe a big if) we have a town lover, one could out with only the NUMBER of people in the QT. That would provide a bit of info, especially if there 4+.

I would like thoughts on this idea.

I'm a lover. What's that got to do with the game?

[celaph]

also ghug would throw out almost any role for a chance to be an sk. the fact hes claiming to be a lover is interesting given jasnahs claim.

Was his lover claim serious? I thought it was just a joke.