MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[lfischl]

What have I missed? I haven't been on since the game started.

[BunnyGo]

Then we have great info to operate off of. Both of those can be proven or disproven at some points. Which can lend oto townieness or prove guilt.

Oh, really?

I think people claiming that much D1 is wrong

What downside is there to that info being out there? It only helps us narrow down scum roles.

What's the rush?

[BunnyGo]

What have I missed? I haven't been on since the game started.

Welcome, I'm Bunny. I don't think we've every played together before.

[BunnyGo]

What have I missed? I haven't been on since the game started.

We're currently debating the merits of various amount of claiming of the roles we discarded. I'm backing the position that we should claim if we discarded a non-town role. But refrain from claiming the specific role immediately.

ghug strongly disagrees.

Also w somhow got into this discussion without bozo

[BobMcBob]

Day vig*

Do you think we have a vig? If so, should they shoot early, or holster?

Holster for sure. Shooting on the first day is likely to hit town and not a good idea unless we're almost certain we have two scum caught. Day 2 to 3 we'll get more information and vig can consider shooting more reasonably. (Are we dealing with sober bunny here? Or anti-town bunny? He's asking some very odd questions).

[BunnyGo]

Bob, Macca, celaph, wow...lots of you here.

[DemonRHK]

Oh, really?

I think people claiming that much D1 is wrong

What downside is there to that info being out there? It only helps us narrow down scum roles.

What's the rush?

YOUR OWN QUOTE. Page 2

Question: should we massclaim? Or partial massclaim somehow?

Pro: we have no idea how close we are to KiLo (we may be there tonight or tomorrow by the rules).

Pro: We know the maximum number of VTs

Con: We let the aliens and scum target our PRs

[BunnyGo]

Day vig*

Do you think we have a vig? If so, should they shoot early, or holster?

Holster for sure. Shooting on the first day is likely to hit town and not a good idea unless we're almost certain we have two scum caught. Day 2 to 3 we'll get more information and vig can consider shooting more reasonably. (Are we dealing with sober bunny here? Or anti-town bunny? He's asking some very odd questions).

I like the confidence in answering ghug's question. Bold move.

Sadly sober...had half a beer 6 hours ago.

[BunnyGo]

What downside is there to that info being out there? It only helps us narrow down scum roles.

What's the rush?

YOUR OWN QUOTE. Page 2

Question: should we massclaim? Or partial massclaim somehow?

Pro: we have no idea how close we are to KiLo (we may be there tonight or tomorrow by the rules).

Pro: We know the maximum number of VTs

Con: We let the aliens and scum target our PRs

You think my positions are contradictory?

And if so, you think I'm not still figuring out the situation?

[DemonRHK]

##Unvote

[BunnyGo]

(@Demon I don't see why you think my positions are contradictory)

[BobMcBob]

Seeing who breaks ties and who avoids breaking them is interesting and useful VCA, especially now when we have no other info.

WITH over 40 hours to go?! Now you're sweating!

I must say, I love a bit of D1, half the players haven't voted, half the votes are early gut votes, no-flip vote count analysis!

[DemonRHK]

Yes, I believe they are. You first point out into the void the idea that town may be on KILO on D2 or D3, then when the subject of obtaining evidence early comes up you're pumping the brakes instead. (Which I can only assume would be in favor of a day and night of flips)

[BobMcBob]

So I had a crazy thought.

IF (maybe a big if) we have a town lover, one could out with only the NUMBER of people in the QT. That would provide a bit of info, especially if there 4+.

I would like thoughts on this idea.

In order to out this information we'd need to out a lover which would be an instant mafia target. Killing off a lover would also result in massive town losses and mafia and alien lover are relatively unlikely to be in play (especially mafia lover) because they're not particularly strong.

[BunnyGo]

Yes, I believe they are. You first point out into the void the idea that town may be on KILO on D2 or D3, then when the subject of obtaining evidence early comes up you're pumping the brakes instead. (Which I can only assume would be in favor of a day and night of flips)

That's fair. But knowing the specific non-town role I ditched provides nothing. I'll post it by EON...no problems.

Shouldn't we better just get people to out town/not-town and focus on role specifics later?

Shouldn't w have a mass specific claim at once and maybe get some juicy CCs?

[ghug]

Oh, really?

I think people claiming that much D1 is wrong

What downside is there to that info being out there? It only helps us narrow down scum roles.

What's the rush?

Avoiding exposing information to town without clear town-motivated reason to do so is scummy. Giving you time to concoct a reason provides you an out.

[BobMcBob]

So I had a crazy thought.

IF (maybe a big if) we have a town lover, one could out with only the NUMBER of people in the QT. That would provide a bit of info, especially if there 4+.

I would like thoughts on this idea.

I'm a lover. What's that got to do with the game?

I really hope you're messing with us ghug... I assume you are, but if you're not...

[kgray]

Would you rather I lurked instead?

You are lurking. Your questions are like little flags planted to announce you've been here.

Anyways, it is 8 hours into a very weird day 1. I'm just saying, kgray is always suspicious. But you don't seem to be you from the last 2 games.


(I'm kidding about my kids joke. It's only funny with the adorable and enthusiastic delivery...you'd have to be here or imagine it)

What? I am not always suspicious. You’re always suspicious.

[ghug]

Yes, I believe they are. You first point out into the void the idea that town may be on KILO on D2 or D3, then when the subject of obtaining evidence early comes up you're pumping the brakes instead. (Which I can only assume would be in favor of a day and night of flips)

That's fair. But knowing the specific non-town role I ditched provides nothing. I'll post it by EON...no problems.

Shouldn't we better just get people to out town/not-town and focus on role specifics later?

Shouldn't w have a mass specific claim at once and maybe get some juicy CCs?

This requires everyone to be online at once and on board with the plan, which will not happen. Better to set a good example off the bat.

[DemonRHK]

Yes, I believe they are. You first point out into the void the idea that town may be on KILO on D2 or D3, then when the subject of obtaining evidence early comes up you're pumping the brakes instead. (Which I can only assume would be in favor of a day and night of flips)

That's fair. But knowing the specific non-town role I ditched provides nothing. I'll post it by EON...no problems.

Shouldn't we better just get people to out town/not-town and focus on role specifics later?

Shouldn't w have a mass specific claim at once and maybe get some juicy CCs?

Straight massclaim, in this setup, is a scum (specifically alien) advantaged play, it would indicate a vaniallizer to me if I had to go on hunch.