I don't see it yet. Can you explain?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 amDon't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 amTo our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:20 amThere might still be a way it is auto if you stop trying to hammer.
MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]
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Think about it from our POV. If we had an auto without killing you tonight it means there’s an auto with killing you.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 amDon't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 amTo our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:20 amThere might still be a way it is auto if you stop trying to hammer.
I get you have to fight this if you’re scum. But if you’re town, you should see my point and end hammer yourself.
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If you kill in the non-cleared, it would only be delaying auto if I were mafia.Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:24 amI don't see it yet. Can you explain?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 amDon't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 am
To our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.
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Yes but that’s different from preventing auto if we vote you and you’re VTbozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:26 amIf you kill in the non-cleared, it would only be delaying auto if I were mafia.Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:24 amI don't see it yet. Can you explain?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am
Don't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?
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You are wrong though, because if you kill me you will only have 4 clears and 5 non-clears D7 after the mafia kill celaph.aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:25 amThink about it from our POV. If we had an auto without killing you tonight it means there’s an auto with killing you.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 amDon't you see that if I were mafia, it would be auto even if you do not kill me today?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:22 am
To our eyes, there is symmetry from a purely informational level on who we end vote here.
I get you have to fight this if you’re scum. But if you’re town, you should see my point and end hammer yourself.
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I'm only 14 pages behind now. Would like to be here for next phase change instead of backreading and missing my second EOD lol
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No, at this point, we only lose if aaro scans a mafia tonight, and the remaining mafia dodges if you're not mafia.
If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.
If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.
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Bozo here are the questions that you need to answer to avoid being day killed. I think they're impossible and you're smart enough to recognize that if you're town.
- From my POV, why should we kill any of the non-clear over you?
- From my POV, can you see why you look very scummy? If so, is there ever a reality in which you aren't voted out eventually? Given that, why is there a disadvantage to being voted out now?
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I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
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If you hit a mafia today, it is auto, if not, the same situation exists D7.Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 amNo, at this point, we only lose if aaro scans a mafia tonight, and the remaining mafia dodges if you're not mafia.
If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.
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No problem. If it helps, there's a basic symmetry argument that shows voting someone else out is no worse than voting you out purely based on mechanics. So if there is an auto with voting out someone else from the non-clears, then there's an auto with voting you out.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 amI might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
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This argument relies on the fact that you're town which is something only you can know for surebozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:35 amIf you hit a mafia today, it is auto, if not, the same situation exists D7.Fluminator wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 amNo, at this point, we only lose if aaro scans a mafia tonight, and the remaining mafia dodges if you're not mafia.
If you're town I'll tryhard and solve it. Just endhammer yourself lol.
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OK, it is not auto either way if you scan one of the mafia tonight.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 amI might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
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LMAO GET BODIED HRaarodactyl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:09 amAs an aside, I feel very bad for HR. They spent a lot of time on that final post. I'm pretty sure it was a big part of them getting NKed, so I'm glad for that. However, everything they wrote is irrelevant now. Also after bozo, the next 5 most scummy people on their list are clear now.
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But since I know I am town, it is auto if you vote someone else and hit a mafia.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 amOK, it is not auto either way if you scan one of the mafia tonight.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 amI might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
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Bozo, you're smart enough that you know this isn't an argument that holds any weight to us. Literally any other person in the non-clear section can say that.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:38 amBut since I know I am town, it is auto if you vote someone else and hit a mafia.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 amOK, it is not auto either way if you scan one of the mafia tonight.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 am
I might be mistaken, it might be auto either way, please give me a minute.
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