MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6301 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:24 pm
Is Bona still alive?
Huh?

No, he was the daykill. You know that. Why ask this weird question?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6302 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:24 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:24 pm
Is Bona still alive?
Huh?

No, he was the daykill. You know that. Why ask this weird question?
worcej wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:18 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:11 pm
I woke up and I'm still sad we killed Bona.
Bona deserved better.
This is some revisionist history right here.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6303 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:24 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:57 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:24 am
Hi everyone. Sorry I wasn't on at EoD. I genuinely was working on something for my actual work, until nearly midnight, and went to sleep soon after that. (While I'm *usually* around at 1am I can't guarantee it).

So I see you did vote out Bona. RIP Bona. I hope that as I catch up I'll see some great posts from Worcej explaining everything we learned from flipping one of his townreads.
I did put it out there for you, so it's up to you to agree with it or not.
Well on reading your posts, it seems you're saying:

1. Hamilton Brian does not play well under pressure.
- We knew this before Bonatogether flipped. We all saw his response to being questioned and pressured.

2. Scum hoped to make Bona the main counter-wagon to Ghug.
- This appears accurate, but surely you must already have assumed this because you said you thought Bona was town when you voted for him? So all this does is confirm something it was entirely reasonable to assume already.

3. Celaph, EMC, and Donny are suspect for their vote moves on the day Ghug was hanged.
- Ok, I'll take a look at their vote history in case you're on to anything here.

4. You think that I "stick out" for not moving off Ghug.
- Of course I didn't move off Ghug, I caught him in a scumslip and I wanted to flip him.

Point 3 might be interesting depending on what can be gleaned from Celaph, EMC, and Donny's vote history, but the other three points are meh.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6304 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:25 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:24 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:24 pm
Is Bona still alive?
Huh?

No, he was the daykill. You know that. Why ask this weird question?
worcej wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:18 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:11 pm
I woke up and I'm still sad we killed Bona.
Bona deserved better.
This is some revisionist history right here.
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pm
Huh?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6305 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:26 pm

It's obvious what Worcej meant about revisionist history.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6306 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:29 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:26 pm
It's obvious what Worcej meant about revisionist history.
I actually don't understand what you're implying.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6307 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:29 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:29 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:26 pm
It's obvious what Worcej meant about revisionist history.
I actually don't understand what you're implying.
What do you think he meant, then?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6308 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:30 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:29 pm
aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:29 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:26 pm
It's obvious what Worcej meant about revisionist history.
I actually don't understand what you're implying.
What do you think he meant, then?
I think Worcej is implying that flum tried to get bona killed, which isn't true. So I'm really not sure what's going on there

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6309 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:30 pm

Oh it's probably a mean dig at bona. Checks out.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6310 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:32 pm

Actually wait. Worcej has it totally backwards.

@Worcej: Fluminator was one of Bona's most vocal defenders and repeatedly argued against his wagon. Why are you accusing him of revisionism?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6311 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:36 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:32 pm
Actually wait. Worcej has it totally backwards.

@Worcej: Fluminator was one of Bona's most vocal defenders and repeatedly argued against his wagon. Why are you accusing him of revisionism?
My guess is it was a mean-spirited reference to flum saying "bona deserved better"

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6312 Post by Chaqa » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:40 pm

We should flip worcej next to make it 2/2 on killing obvious town

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6313 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:01 pm

@ Damo: You seem to keep changing your mind about EMC. Any particular reason?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6314 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:40 pm
We should flip worcej next to make it 2/2 on killing obvious town
Do you have a vig shot left? Why not use that?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6315 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:21 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:40 pm
We should flip worcej next to make it 2/2 on killing obvious town
I am already 2/2 chaqa what else do you want?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6316 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:26 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:23 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:40 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:32 am
@Cop

Same strategy as before. If you have 2+ living scans or you think you're going to die, best to claim at EoN. If you somehow have less than 2, probably don't.
Hr, who are the scum for you now?
I think bozo is scum because his push on bona just seemed only to vote there while claiming people had non-existent tr of bona seems scummy.
I explained why I thought Bonatogether was a good scum suspect at the beginning of D5, and I was voting for him before he became a large wagon. Then, players like Fluminator, Chaqa, and damo started insisting he was town without giving a reason why, and Bonatogether's wagon started to dissipate, I believed because others thought what I did, that the cop was indicating that they had an innocent scan on Bonatogether. I then voted for Bonatogether again near EOD when he was still the lead wagon and the cop had not stepped in to prevent his DK.

Can you explain to me what specifically about this you find suspicious?
I get why a cop scan would make you move and looking through your iso that does make sense somewhat. Did you feel at the time of voting celaph that bona would still be the kill?
Did you believe bona's first self-vote was scummy?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6317 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:10 pm

Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:26 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:23 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:40 am
Hr, who are the scum for you now?
I think bozo is scum because his push on bona just seemed only to vote there while claiming people had non-existent tr of bona seems scummy.
I explained why I thought Bonatogether was a good scum suspect at the beginning of D5, and I was voting for him before he became a large wagon. Then, players like Fluminator, Chaqa, and damo started insisting he was town without giving a reason why, and Bonatogether's wagon started to dissipate, I believed because others thought what I did, that the cop was indicating that they had an innocent scan on Bonatogether. I then voted for Bonatogether again near EOD when he was still the lead wagon and the cop had not stepped in to prevent his DK.

Can you explain to me what specifically about this you find suspicious?
I get why a cop scan would make you move and looking through your iso that does make sense somewhat. Did you feel at the time of voting celaph that bona would still be the kill?
Did you believe bona's first self-vote was scummy?
I thought Bonatogether might avoid the DK if enough players voting for him also thought there might be an innocent cop scan on him based on how he was being defended. I think self votes are suspicious in general and should not done by town.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6318 Post by President Eden » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:17 pm

I think we NEED to flip worcej EVEN IF HE IS TOWN because we need to figure out how Day 1 REALLY went down.

:smirk:

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6319 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:35 pm

President Eden wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:17 pm
I think we NEED to flip worcej EVEN IF HE IS TOWN because we need to figure out how Day 1 REALLY went down.

:smirk:
This is the same thing worcej said but for d2.
So no lets find scum instead of getting mired in the past although it provides information.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#6320 Post by damo666 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:40 pm

Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:35 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:17 pm
I think we NEED to flip worcej EVEN IF HE IS TOWN because we need to figure out how Day 1 REALLY went down.

:smirk:
This is the same thing worcej said but for d2.
So no lets find scum instead of getting mired in the past although it provides information.
:eyeroll:

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