MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

I just want to point out that although my final vote was in the wrong place, the whole ghug/brainbomb thing should basically lock clear me as town.

It's quite clear from brainbomb's hard claim Cop that brainbomb had no interest in being the patsy to save ghug, and that ghug's push could not have been preplanned or coordinated as an attempt to split the vote and save ghug, as I had previously thought. Plus, brainbomb was the more valuable power role. Rather, it's clear that ghug was trying to put distance between himself and brainbomb.

When I actually pulled the trigger on voting, ghug felt compelled to follow. That put enough pressure on the Godfather for him to effectively claim mafia by hard claiming Cop.

If I were mafia, I'd have known what was going on with ghug trying to distance. Why pile onto brainbomb and effectively out him? Why not just kill Bona instead and whip votes that way?

I don’t think anyone gets any town credit for voting BB tbh

I'm not citing the day 3 vote in my argument about EOD2.

[worcej]

we should vote worcej

We should await copscan data before determining who to vote.

but worcej is a solid vote anyways

Because of why exactly?

[worcej]

Yes, well done.

Includes EMC who you describe as goon yet you have 4 people in Tier 4. There are only 3 outstanding scum. Frankly your Tier system is crap.

idk if emc is an actual goon but they are a goon.

so? I'm not claiming to be 100% on the money here. Is hedging my bets wrong?

TBF, yes it is wrong. You should have a list of a couple to flip and explain why.

[worcej]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

[Bonatogether]

We should await copscan data before determining who to vote.

but worcej is a solid vote anyways

Because of why exactly?

idk if you're scum but flipping you reveals HR's alignment too imo. it's 2 flips for 1 vote

[damo666]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

I'd rather flip Bozo

[aarodactyl]

Where's your list, aaro?

I'm technically at work

[worcej]

but worcej is a solid vote anyways

Because of why exactly?

idk if you're scum but flipping you reveals HR's alignment too imo. it's 2 flips for 1 vote

How does it reveal HR’s?

[aarodactyl]

Where's your list, aaro?

I'm technically at work

Also my town meta is promising read lists and not posting them

[Bonatogether]

Because of why exactly?

idk if you're scum but flipping you reveals HR's alignment too imo. it's 2 flips for 1 vote

How does it reveal HR’s?

cause scum may have pulled the stuff they did on d2 on d1 as well. It worked the first time so they thought they could do it again.

[Jamiet99uk]

Bona is either

a) scum
b) cop with inno on Jamie
c) not thinking through his tier classification very well

Which is it Bona?

What are you basing this off of? Just the fact jamie is his top town read? Because that's pretty true for me as well.

He has Jamie in the same Tier as himself implying he KNOWS Jamie's alignment.

He simply recognises my greatness.

[Jamiet99uk]

At least now we know why ND had to sub out. He had to travel to Washington D.C. today.

[President Eden]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

You know we can just scan you with the Cop yeah? I’ve been calling for that for a hot minute for a reason. We get certainty about day 1.

[damo666]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

You know we can just scan you with the Cop yeah? I’ve been calling for that for a hot minute for a reason. We get certainty about day 1.

Discussion is pointless until both the copscan revelations and the NK.

[Bonatogether]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

You know we can just scan you with the Cop yeah? I’ve been calling for that for a hot minute for a reason. We get certainty about day 1.

Discussion is pointless until both the copscan revelations and the NK.

No, because we can still find stuff out from people's interactions from each other.

[President Eden]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

You know we can just scan you with the Cop yeah? I’ve been calling for that for a hot minute for a reason. We get certainty about day 1.

Discussion is pointless until both the copscan revelations and the NK.

While I tend to agree, worcej’s post has activated my almonds and I’m not sure what to make of it.

He knows we have a Cop who has a totally free hand to resolve his alignment. Wouldn’t your first reaction be “scan me” instead of “flip me” there if you’re town? Especially at night, when you have time to persuade the Cop to do it? L
It sucks that the Cop has to spend a valuable and limited resource (scans) to resolve you, but it sucks WAY less than having town miskill you.

It’s obvious why you’d take this line as mafia—a Cop scan 100% kills you, but offering to be flipped looks pro-town and not like a mafia move, so maybe Cop doesn’t scan you and town relents.

I’m not really sure what to make of it. I’m sure there is some part of the puzzle that I’m missing

[rdrivera2005]

FWIW, I am growing not opposed to flipping me sooner rather than later because the scum will not NK with the amount of questions regarding my slot.

I believe Bozo is town and caught in a death-spiral tunnel that won’t end until he gets my confirmed role.

I'd rather flip Bozo

I would rather flip Bozo too, but after Flum and emc.

[damo666]

@PE we may never get the result of tonight's scan. We may only get the results of the 2 scans already made. And they are not guaranteed to be informative (though of course I hope they are).

[rdrivera2005]

You know we can just scan you with the Cop yeah? I’ve been calling for that for a hot minute for a reason. We get certainty about day 1.

Discussion is pointless until both the copscan revelations and the NK.

While I tend to agree, worcej’s post has activated my almonds and I’m not sure what to make of it.

He knows we have a Cop who has a totally free hand to resolve his alignment. Wouldn’t your first reaction be “scan me” instead of “flip me” there if you’re town? Especially at night, when you have time to persuade the Cop to do it? L
It sucks that the Cop has to spend a valuable and limited resource (scans) to resolve you, but it sucks WAY less than having town miskill you.

It’s obvious why you’d take this line as mafia—a Cop scan 100% kills you, but offering to be flipped looks pro-town and not like a mafia move, so maybe Cop doesn’t scan you and town relents.

I’m not really sure what to make of it. I’m sure there is some part of the puzzle that I’m missing

Probably the part where we can't count with a cop scan tonight?

[President Eden]

Wait you guys actually think the Doctor saved Hamilton Brian last night?