MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4081 Post by President Eden » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:23 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:20 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:18 pm
Town:
aarodactyl
Bonatogether
BunnyGo
celaph
Chaqa
damo666
Donny Dude
Hamilton Brian
Jamiet99uk
President Eden

Mafia:
e.m.c^42
Fluminator
rdrivera2005

Backup Mafia Guesses:
bozotheclown
Hellenic Riot
worcej
Do your lists just happen to be in alphabetical order?
I was just about to clarify that while that wasn't meant to be a ranking and was simply alphabetical, both the mafia and backup guesses happen to be in order from strongest to weakest. I would shoot in order from emc to worcej basically. The top one is obviously alphabetical because I am a stronger townread to myself than everyone else in there. I don't particularly care to sort those because I'm very confident in everyone on that list being town -- if I'm having to choose between them at some point then I've failed really badly.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4082 Post by damo666 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:23 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:18 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:18 pm
## Call GM

So it's not 30 hours? Night ends 8pm EST?
I’m not gm but it’s still 30 hours. The bot was at 54 hours before it was adjusted.
Bot now says only 5h38m to EON.

I think it advanced 24h twice.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4083 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:24 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:39 pm
@People who are scumreading Donny

Go back and read the bit where ghug says that Donny is playing nothing like his scum meta. Do you really think scum!ghug lies about scum!Donny's meta, having been scum with him just a couple of games ago? That interaction reads massively like Donny is town to me, and that ghug was trying to pocket him by making a strong townread on him at a time when he was getting suspicion from other people.
Do you not think it was a way for ghug to do some distancing? When those statements were made, and I don't remember when, what kind of pressure was ghug under?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4084 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:43 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:23 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:20 pm
Someone wanna explain the BunnyGo / Fluminator thing to me? I don't get it.
I assumed Bunny was doing a bluff hoping I was scum to draw a nightkill.
What, to anger you into Nightkilling in an enormous fit of OMGUS?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4085 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:46 pm

DEADLINE MOVED 1 DAY LATER

(sorry, I’m doing a disastrous job of managing the bot. I can already hear the “not my GM” chants....)

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4086 Post by Chaqa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:47 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:08 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:06 pm
Bozo, EMC, Flum, rivera, celaph, worc are all reasonable scan choices.
I like this list, but I would also add Chaqa to it.
I'm confused as to why, but it's never bad to get town cleared

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4087 Post by Chaqa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:48 pm

Bot currently says "Remaining time to next Night 3 deadline: 5 hours, 12 minutes"

i'm guessing this is incorrect?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4088 Post by damo666 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:49 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:48 pm
Bot currently says "Remaining time to next Night 3 deadline: 5 hours, 12 minutes"

i'm guessing this is incorrect?
It's correct now.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4089 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:57 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:18 pm
## Call GM

So it's not 30 hours? Night ends 8pm EST?
This is not a valid GM call because you left a space between the second "#" and the word "Call".

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4090 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:06 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:47 pm
aarodactyl wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:08 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:06 pm
Bozo, EMC, Flum, rivera, celaph, worc are all reasonable scan choices.
I like this list, but I would also add Chaqa to it.
I'm confused as to why, but it's never bad to get town cleared
I have you about the same as all of the other people in that list. I think in general other people to, but I haven't been aggregating anything. I just didn't want you to be omitted since you were the one that posted it

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4091 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:46 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:24 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:39 pm
@People who are scumreading Donny

Go back and read the bit where ghug says that Donny is playing nothing like his scum meta. Do you really think scum!ghug lies about scum!Donny's meta, having been scum with him just a couple of games ago? That interaction reads massively like Donny is town to me, and that ghug was trying to pocket him by making a strong townread on him at a time when he was getting suspicion from other people.
Do you not think it was a way for ghug to do some distancing? When those statements were made, and I don't remember when, what kind of pressure was ghug under?
What's distancing about that post? If anything it ties him closer to Donny and means that if Donny were killed and flipped scum, ghug would look worse, not better.

They were made D1 so there wasn't especially huge pressure going around on either. I just don't see ghug making a claim like that if he's scum with Donny.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4092 Post by worcej » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:48 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:46 pm
DEADLINE MOVED 1 DAY LATER

(sorry, I’m doing a disastrous job of managing the bot. I can already hear the “not my GM” chants....)
Eh, you're doing fine.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4093 Post by President Eden » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:27 pm

Could we advance 24h twice? Mafia don't really need the time to think about shooting Brian, do they?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4094 Post by President Eden » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:28 pm

I guess we better make sure Doctor gets the order in though.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4095 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:40 pm

President Eden wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Could we advance 24h twice? Mafia don't really need the time to think about shooting Brian, do they?
I'm in support of this, but I'm pretty sure there is no fair way to do this. So everyone just has more time to compile reads.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4096 Post by Chaqa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:45 pm

President Eden wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Could we advance 24h twice? Mafia don't really need the time to think about shooting Brian, do they?
It would require a unanimous hammer via PM to the GM, per precedent, if Tom allows it even.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4097 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:20 pm

Bona's reads, in order of post count d3:

Tier 1: bona, jamie
Tier 2: aaro, chaqa, hb
Tier 3: eden, damo, emc, flum, donny, rivera, hr, bozo
Tier 4: worcej, rivera, celaph, bunny

Eden: I know a lot of people townread him but I'm not as much of a fan of him. His d2 was wrong, and his post lamenting that he should have been on the ghug wagon felt off to me. Also he was the first vote for brain. However, he's put out solid reads today. We should vote him at some point if he's not nked in the next couple days.

aaro: his d2 reads post was somewhat accurate. I'm also getting town vibes from him.

damo: "no bussers on ghug" is dumb. Claiming scum is 4 people on me plus maybe celaph. Also one of the early voters of brain.

chaqa: Not getting scum vibes. campaigned against voting ND d1, which is town. Also this post is good. Voted ghug.

Jamie: caught ghug. This cannot have been a bus because brain wouldn't have felt obligated to try and sacrifice himself if it was. town

emc: I had to read his iso cause I could only remember him calling ghug daddy. Hasn't contributed much. also that stuff from today about him. hasnt posted reads. is a goon

flum/durga: apparently there was a thing with summit where durga/ghug/bozo bussed him d1, and there are similarities to this. idk about this, but durga was evidently thinking about summit d1 because she posted "whatever happened to summit". flum hasn't done a lot of stuff to solve. d2 tied me with ghug and emc.

worcej: possibly scum if the mafia tried to do the same thing they did d2 on d1. That would also mean HR would be scum. We should vote worcej tomorrow to find out.

Donny: campaigned against nd wagon d1. voted me d2. Had a good post about how early lead towns often lose. Did a ghug/brain analysis post. I'm not sure.

rivera: argued with HR a lot d1, but then they stopped and went after me for no apparent reason. made me a wagon. see HR comment

HR: helped start my wagon. argued a lot with rivera d1, but then they went for me for no apparent reason. argued that ghug didnt scumslip. went for brain.

bozo: hasn't put out anything of value. went for ND. went for worcej. voted me. a

HB: voted ghug. apparently is cop???? if someone could explain that to me I'd really appreciate it.

celaph: still feeling like they're imitating last game.

bunny: eden's theory is bunk. voted brain d2, then did the weird "sheep the inno" junk. claimed vig when THERE AINT ONE.

also why is going to do a thing where you'll be gone for a while now called "doing a bona"

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4098 Post by damo666 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:44 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:20 pm
Bona's reads, in order of post count d3:

Tier 1: bona, jamie
Tier 2: aaro, chaqa, hb
Tier 3: eden, damo, emc, flum, donny, rivera, hr, bozo
Tier 4: worcej, rivera, celaph, bunny

Eden: I know a lot of people townread him but I'm not as much of a fan of him. His d2 was wrong, and his post lamenting that he should have been on the ghug wagon felt off to me. Also he was the first vote for brain. However, he's put out solid reads today. We should vote him at some point if he's not nked in the next couple days.

aaro: his d2 reads post was somewhat accurate. I'm also getting town vibes from him.

damo: "no bussers on ghug" is dumb. Claiming scum is 4 people on me plus maybe celaph. Also one of the early voters of brain.

chaqa: Not getting scum vibes. campaigned against voting ND d1, which is town. Also this post is good. Voted ghug.

Jamie: caught ghug. This cannot have been a bus because brain wouldn't have felt obligated to try and sacrifice himself if it was. town

emc: I had to read his iso cause I could only remember him calling ghug daddy. Hasn't contributed much. also that stuff from today about him. hasnt posted reads. is a goon

flum/durga: apparently there was a thing with summit where durga/ghug/bozo bussed him d1, and there are similarities to this. idk about this, but durga was evidently thinking about summit d1 because she posted "whatever happened to summit". flum hasn't done a lot of stuff to solve. d2 tied me with ghug and emc.

worcej: possibly scum if the mafia tried to do the same thing they did d2 on d1. That would also mean HR would be scum. We should vote worcej tomorrow to find out.

Donny: campaigned against nd wagon d1. voted me d2. Had a good post about how early lead towns often lose. Did a ghug/brain analysis post. I'm not sure.

rivera: argued with HR a lot d1, but then they stopped and went after me for no apparent reason. made me a wagon. see HR comment

HR: helped start my wagon. argued a lot with rivera d1, but then they went for me for no apparent reason. argued that ghug didnt scumslip. went for brain.

bozo: hasn't put out anything of value. went for ND. went for worcej. voted me. a

HB: voted ghug. apparently is cop???? if someone could explain that to me I'd really appreciate it.

celaph: still feeling like they're imitating last game.

bunny: eden's theory is bunk. voted brain d2, then did the weird "sheep the inno" junk. claimed vig when THERE AINT ONE.

also why is going to do a thing where you'll be gone for a while now called "doing a bona"
Bona is either

a) scum
b) cop with inno on Jamie
c) not thinking through his tier classification very well

Which is it Bona?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4099 Post by aarodactyl » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:46 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:44 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:20 pm
Bona's reads, in order of post count d3:

Tier 1: bona, jamie
Tier 2: aaro, chaqa, hb
Tier 3: eden, damo, emc, flum, donny, rivera, hr, bozo
Tier 4: worcej, rivera, celaph, bunny

Eden: I know a lot of people townread him but I'm not as much of a fan of him. His d2 was wrong, and his post lamenting that he should have been on the ghug wagon felt off to me. Also he was the first vote for brain. However, he's put out solid reads today. We should vote him at some point if he's not nked in the next couple days.

aaro: his d2 reads post was somewhat accurate. I'm also getting town vibes from him.

damo: "no bussers on ghug" is dumb. Claiming scum is 4 people on me plus maybe celaph. Also one of the early voters of brain.

chaqa: Not getting scum vibes. campaigned against voting ND d1, which is town. Also this post is good. Voted ghug.

Jamie: caught ghug. This cannot have been a bus because brain wouldn't have felt obligated to try and sacrifice himself if it was. town

emc: I had to read his iso cause I could only remember him calling ghug daddy. Hasn't contributed much. also that stuff from today about him. hasnt posted reads. is a goon

flum/durga: apparently there was a thing with summit where durga/ghug/bozo bussed him d1, and there are similarities to this. idk about this, but durga was evidently thinking about summit d1 because she posted "whatever happened to summit". flum hasn't done a lot of stuff to solve. d2 tied me with ghug and emc.

worcej: possibly scum if the mafia tried to do the same thing they did d2 on d1. That would also mean HR would be scum. We should vote worcej tomorrow to find out.

Donny: campaigned against nd wagon d1. voted me d2. Had a good post about how early lead towns often lose. Did a ghug/brain analysis post. I'm not sure.

rivera: argued with HR a lot d1, but then they stopped and went after me for no apparent reason. made me a wagon. see HR comment

HR: helped start my wagon. argued a lot with rivera d1, but then they went for me for no apparent reason. argued that ghug didnt scumslip. went for brain.

bozo: hasn't put out anything of value. went for ND. went for worcej. voted me. a

HB: voted ghug. apparently is cop???? if someone could explain that to me I'd really appreciate it.

celaph: still feeling like they're imitating last game.

bunny: eden's theory is bunk. voted brain d2, then did the weird "sheep the inno" junk. claimed vig when THERE AINT ONE.

also why is going to do a thing where you'll be gone for a while now called "doing a bona"
Bona is either

a) scum
b) cop with inno on Jamie
c) not thinking through his tier classification very well

Which is it Bona?
What are you basing this off of? Just the fact jamie is his top town read? Because that's pretty true for me as well.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#4100 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:47 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:44 pm
Bona is either

a) scum
b) cop with inno on Jamie
c) not thinking through his tier classification very well

Which is it Bona?
a ;)

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