MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

Also if flum is actually scum here (seems likely) I really dont get why ghug and durga always have to meme around this badly lol

[Bonatogether]

brain is goon and ghug wanted to sacrifice the goon in exchange for keeping the rber alive

Why not just push you?

Well ghug loses a ghug vs me, as we saw, but ghug vs me vs brain is something that he wins, and if I die, then he can say "darn, he wasn't helping much, not much we could have done", and if brain dies, he's pulled off a pretty good bus and then survive for a while.

[BunnyGo]

Town: aarodactyl, BunnyGo, celaph, Chaqa, Hamilton Brian, Hellenic Riot, Jamiet99uk, Vecna

Unsorted: Bonatogether, bozotheclown, damo666, Donny Dude, e.m.c^42, rdrivera2005

Mafia: brainbomb, Fluminator

- Bona is on the town side of unsorted
- If Bona is town then damo is town for sure
- Idk what to do with the others yet, dinnertime

I'm more suspicious of celaph, HB, and emc. They ended on wagons that had been viable counterwagons. And if they'd blatantly saved ghug, it'd have tied them together. That's really hard for scum to want to do on D2.

@eden...add Bona to the pyre

[Bonatogether]

I'm more suspicious of celaph, HB, and emc. They ended on wagons that had been viable counterwagons. And if they'd blatantly saved ghug, it'd have tied them together. That's really hard for scum to want to do on D2.

@eden...add Bona to the pyre
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why

[e.m.c^42]

I'm not sure why but I'm super disconnected from all of Bungo's posts from EOD til now.

[bozotheclown]

My initial thoughts are:

1. As scum, ghug typically busses D1, so that is another reason to suspect ND was scum.

2. brainbomb fake claiming cop 6 minutes before EOD when he was the third wagon was not necessary to save himself, he could have done it as scum to shake up the voting with his teammate at risk.

3. BunnyGo's switch to ghug did not make much sense, I would not rule out a bus.

[President Eden]

id say your townpile has at the very least 1 scum

Call em out

I'm more suspicious of celaph, HB, and emc. They ended on wagons that had been viable counterwagons. And if they'd blatantly saved ghug, it'd have tied them together. That's really hard for scum to want to do on D2.

@eden...add Bona to the pyre

celaph is in my town pile based on my behavioral read and not based on info from the day 2 kill. celaph was genuinely not around for EOD as best I can tell; I don't fault celaph for ending up on a ghug counterwagon. (Especially not if emc is mafia.)

Hamilton Brian is lock town for me until at least day 4 and we don't really need to discuss it any further.

emc was around and once again very noncommittal, this time with known mafia on the block, so I could definitely see that.

I have Bona as lean town because I think brainbomb is mafia and I just don't trust that we somehow had three mafia on the block lol. That would be pretty insane.
But I guess to be fair, if it's ghug/brainbomb/Bona/x/y, that trio didn't have much command of the thread or much ability to keep us from pressing them.
I'm of two minds about him. Maybe getting narrowly saved from death by killing mafia will finally light a fire under his ass and he'll finally be obviously town. I'm fine to wait and see there.

brainbomb is fucking dead tomorrow though mark my words

[BunnyGo]

brain is goon and ghug wanted to sacrifice the goon in exchange for keeping the rber alive

Why not just push you?

Well ghug loses a ghug vs me, as we saw, but ghug vs me vs brain is something that he wins, and if I die, then he can say "darn, he wasn't helping much, not much we could have done", and if brain dies, he's pulled off a pretty good bus and then survive for a while.

He doesn't necessarily lose against you. There were lots of other wagons popping up and down. He could have pushed any of them. Why try to start a wagon on a goon when you or others were playable? It's possible. Maybe he was realizing he was done and was distancing with brain, but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it.

[Donny Dude]

IF ND FLIPS SCUM: I don't think it's likely, but remember that Durga, ghug, and Bozo did this same thing to Summit a few games ago.

Ohhh fuck MVP to this guy. The scum team is me ghug bozo and ND because this situation is totally equivalent to summit fever

I am grabbing the night one posts since she subbed out d2.
K Durga did have this post and ghug is scum.
Another post from durga a bit later To ghug
"If you are somehow scum my heart is going to actually break"

another quote from n1
"I actually seeped ghug onto nd here..."

I think there is a good possibility Durga/flum is scum.

[BunnyGo]

id say your townpile has at the very least 1 scum

Call em out

I'm more suspicious of celaph, HB, and emc. They ended on wagons that had been viable counterwagons. And if they'd blatantly saved ghug, it'd have tied them together. That's really hard for scum to want to do on D2.

@eden...add Bona to the pyre

celaph is in my town pile based on my behavioral read and not based on info from the day 2 kill. celaph was genuinely not around for EOD as best I can tell; I don't fault celaph for ending up on a ghug counterwagon. (Especially not if emc is mafia.)

Hamilton Brian is lock town for me until at least day 4 and we don't really need to discuss it any further.

emc was around and once again very noncommittal, this time with known mafia on the block, so I could definitely see that.

I have Bona as lean town because I think brainbomb is mafia and I just don't trust that we somehow had three mafia on the block lol. That would be pretty insane.
But I guess to be fair, if it's ghug/brainbomb/Bona/x/y, that trio didn't have much command of the thread or much ability to keep us from pressing them.
I'm of two minds about him. Maybe getting narrowly saved from death by killing mafia will finally light a fire under his ass and he'll finally be obviously town. I'm fine to wait and see there.

brainbomb is fucking dead tomorrow though mark my words

Why brainbomb? Do you think ghug was distancing (if either of them dies, the other looks good)?

What about Durganator?

[President Eden]

I forgot worcej in my earlier list. worcej is in the "unsorted" pile.

I have no idea there. If ghug and Durga are mafia then it's kind of harebrained for them to be voting mafia ND, but at the same time, as I pointed out earlier, they 100% would do that to exactly ND.

[President Eden]

id say your townpile has at the very least 1 scum

Call em out

@eden...add Bona to the pyre

celaph is in my town pile based on my behavioral read and not based on info from the day 2 kill. celaph was genuinely not around for EOD as best I can tell; I don't fault celaph for ending up on a ghug counterwagon. (Especially not if emc is mafia.)

Hamilton Brian is lock town for me until at least day 4 and we don't really need to discuss it any further.

emc was around and once again very noncommittal, this time with known mafia on the block, so I could definitely see that.

I have Bona as lean town because I think brainbomb is mafia and I just don't trust that we somehow had three mafia on the block lol. That would be pretty insane.
But I guess to be fair, if it's ghug/brainbomb/Bona/x/y, that trio didn't have much command of the thread or much ability to keep us from pressing them.
I'm of two minds about him. Maybe getting narrowly saved from death by killing mafia will finally light a fire under his ass and he'll finally be obviously town. I'm fine to wait and see there.

brainbomb is fucking dead tomorrow though mark my words

Why brainbomb? Do you think ghug was distancing (if either of them dies, the other looks good)?

What about Durganator?

I think ghug was distancing yes.

Fluminator is another fine shot. But I want either of those two.

[President Eden]

I can't believe ghug was fucking mafia and I wasn't one of the votes on him. I am beside myself.

[Bonatogether]

He doesn't necessarily lose against you. There were lots of other wagons popping up and down. He could have pushed any of them. Why try to start a wagon on a goon when you or others were playable? It's possible. Maybe he was realizing he was done and was distancing with brain, but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it.

That's what happened - he tried to start a counterwagon but then it died and he lost.

It's pretty clear that brain is scum. He defends himself AT NO VOTES AND BARELY ANY SUS, which I think is signally ghug that he's willing to take one for the team. Ghug, having picked up on this, repeatedly tries to get a brain speedwagon. It almost works, but it dies, and he gets voted.

[BunnyGo]

Call em out


celaph is in my town pile based on my behavioral read and not based on info from the day 2 kill. celaph was genuinely not around for EOD as best I can tell; I don't fault celaph for ending up on a ghug counterwagon. (Especially not if emc is mafia.)

Hamilton Brian is lock town for me until at least day 4 and we don't really need to discuss it any further.

emc was around and once again very noncommittal, this time with known mafia on the block, so I could definitely see that.

I have Bona as lean town because I think brainbomb is mafia and I just don't trust that we somehow had three mafia on the block lol. That would be pretty insane.
But I guess to be fair, if it's ghug/brainbomb/Bona/x/y, that trio didn't have much command of the thread or much ability to keep us from pressing them.
I'm of two minds about him. Maybe getting narrowly saved from death by killing mafia will finally light a fire under his ass and he'll finally be obviously town. I'm fine to wait and see there.

brainbomb is fucking dead tomorrow though mark my words

Why brainbomb? Do you think ghug was distancing (if either of them dies, the other looks good)?

What about Durganator?

I think ghug was distancing yes.

Fluminator is another fine shot. But I want either of those two.

If Durga were scum, this would be twice in 3 games that she subbed out as scum (and the third game she was town and played...despite all the drama)

[Fluminator]

Call em out


celaph is in my town pile based on my behavioral read and not based on info from the day 2 kill. celaph was genuinely not around for EOD as best I can tell; I don't fault celaph for ending up on a ghug counterwagon. (Especially not if emc is mafia.)

Hamilton Brian is lock town for me until at least day 4 and we don't really need to discuss it any further.

emc was around and once again very noncommittal, this time with known mafia on the block, so I could definitely see that.

I have Bona as lean town because I think brainbomb is mafia and I just don't trust that we somehow had three mafia on the block lol. That would be pretty insane.
But I guess to be fair, if it's ghug/brainbomb/Bona/x/y, that trio didn't have much command of the thread or much ability to keep us from pressing them.
I'm of two minds about him. Maybe getting narrowly saved from death by killing mafia will finally light a fire under his ass and he'll finally be obviously town. I'm fine to wait and see there.

brainbomb is fucking dead tomorrow though mark my words

Why brainbomb? Do you think ghug was distancing (if either of them dies, the other looks good)?

What about Durganator?

I think ghug was distancing yes.

Fluminator is another fine shot. But I want either of those two.

Ahem, my name is Durganator this game.

[Bonatogether]

Maybe getting narrowly saved from death by killing mafia will finally light a fire under his ass and he'll finally be obviously town. I'm fine to wait and see there.

just for the next day

[President Eden]

Why brainbomb? Do you think ghug was distancing (if either of them dies, the other looks good)?

What about Durganator?

I think ghug was distancing yes.

Fluminator is another fine shot. But I want either of those two.

Ahem, my name is Durganator this game.

Do you care to answer for your better half gaslighting me while I was in the middle of destroying a mafia with the white-hot fury of a thousand suns?

[BunnyGo]

He doesn't necessarily lose against you. There were lots of other wagons popping up and down. He could have pushed any of them. Why try to start a wagon on a goon when you or others were playable? It's possible. Maybe he was realizing he was done and was distancing with brain, but I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it.

That's what happened - he tried to start a counterwagon but then it died and he lost.

It's pretty clear that brain is scum. He defends himself AT NO VOTES AND BARELY ANY SUS, which I think is signally ghug that he's willing to take one for the team. Ghug, having picked up on this, repeatedly tries to get a brain speedwagon. It almost works, but it dies, and he gets voted.

Hmm...that seems towny to me on reread.

The suspicious part is him saying your wagon is blatantly saving ghug, then voting you.

[Fluminator]

I think ghug was distancing yes.

Fluminator is another fine shot. But I want either of those two.

Ahem, my name is Durganator this game.

Do you care to answer for your better half gaslighting me while I was in the middle of destroying a mafia with the white-hot fury of a thousand suns?

She's always been kind of susceptible to ghug's buddying. rip