MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Hellenic Riot]

Seriously why doesn't anyone want to flash wagon brain with me?

brain wasn't getting any pressure at this point. Given brain's preemptive defense, I think there was some cooperation between the two to get ghug off the chopping block, and either get me (town) or brain (prob goon) killed instead. Brain's last minute cop claim is also fake. Idk how it makes vecna look.

There's no way vecna deliberately kills teammate roleblocker ghug as the casting vote there even if brain was also scum (and I don't see it even if you were too), because this setup is not going to leave an ability for Vecna to ever explaining being alive in the lategame after that now.

[BunnyGo]

How are you mentioning PE and then are silent on HB?

The guy did a blatant attempt to tie the wagons in the very last 20 seconds

He ended on a solo wagon?

Durganator is looking like my top shoot em candidate now. NCej too. Oh man, would totally be a reason she bailed again as scum if ND and worcej were her teammates. And Ghug knows she doesn’t read so was worried she’d name a role.

Is everyone forgetting I also thought ghug was scum and was on his wagon early...

Durganator is higher. You’re the parlay bet.

[damo666]

How are you mentioning PE and then are silent on HB?

The guy did a blatant attempt to tie the wagons in the very last 20 seconds

He ended on a solo wagon?

Durganator is looking like my top shoot em candidate now. NCej too. Oh man, would totally be a reason she bailed again as scum if ND and worcej were her teammates. And Ghug knows she doesn’t read so was worried she’d name a role.

He still tied the vote in the last 20 seconds, thereby nearly saving Ghug.

Who did?

[Bonatogether]

All aboard the brain train.

more pushing brain when he wasn't getting votes

[Vecna]

He ended on a solo wagon?

Durganator is looking like my top shoot em candidate now. NCej too. Oh man, would totally be a reason she bailed again as scum if ND and worcej were her teammates. And Ghug knows she doesn’t read so was worried she’d name a role.

He still tied the vote in the last 20 seconds, thereby nearly saving Ghug.

Who did?

HB

[Fluminator]

He ended on a solo wagon?

Durganator is looking like my top shoot em candidate now. NCej too. Oh man, would totally be a reason she bailed again as scum if ND and worcej were her teammates. And Ghug knows she doesn’t read so was worried she’d name a role.

Is everyone forgetting I also thought ghug was scum and was on his wagon early...

Durganator is higher. You’re the parlay bet.

While I admit I probably look suspicious right now, how the heck does this follow from a ghug flip?

[Vecna]

Has anything interesting happened today that I should know about? I don't have time to catch up.

vecna was roleblocked

he already knew

This quote also aged really well lmao

[Vecna]

For context for those that somehow still didnt figure it out:

I obviously wasnt roleblocked

[Vecna]

And indeed Jamiet and Aaro have been acting really weird around my claim all day

[President Eden]

OK.

##VOTE ghug

Why are you voting worcej exactly? Yesterday you voted ND because you didn't like him personally and felt that he was just a bad player, so getting rid of the slot was a good idea. But ND has been replaced with worcej. And you haven't said why you're voting worcej yet. In fact, none of your engagement with worcej so far has really had anything to do with him.

You even said after Maniac flipped that "my wagon was shitty too" -- your exact words -- and yet you're here again today, after two flips and a lot of discussion from other people.

I rarely have good reads the first few days. I've recently decided it's better to just push people I think hurt town for a couple days. It prevents me from getting stuck in tunnels based on early reads that last into the midgame, and it gets rid of players who can cause problems. In the mean time, I can focus on building townreads.

You should know I don't particularly like worcej (sorry worcej). I've also seen no evidence he's a good player as town, and I think town is better off flipping him sooner than later to make sense of D1. My strongest scumread right now is probably Durga, but I can usually figure out if she's town eventually, and she's valuable if she is, so I have no interest in killing her today.

You were townreading me. What about the post you quoted changed that?

Are you kidding me. I'm still town reading you but in what world am I your strongest scumread??

And if this is true, literally vote me

Are you kidding me. I'm still town reading you but in what world am I your strongest scumread??

And if this is true, literally vote me

In a world where I'm focusing on townreads and you haven't done all that much of note.

What a cop out bullshit response. So your top scum read is because you think I haven't done much d1? When have I ever? Literally I did everything you did, so how is it scummy?

He's really milquetoast compared to some others.

Anyway mafia don't tend to openly demoralize solving efforts, that would be bold

Town that demoralize solving efforts literally are playing against their win condition by definition. It's not even that bold for ghug to do it as mafia since he inexplicably gets townread for doing it, but even if it is, it's at least playing to his win condition, even if it's risky or turns out to be -EV. Shitting on other town for trying to solve the game while concededly doing jack and shit to solve it himself is appallingly anti-town regardless of his alignment. I refuse to believe he is doing this on purpose as town. He has to be mafia.

That's not exactly playing against your win condition. Playing a less that appealing play style is not playing against your win condition.

I don't understand why you're adament he has to be mafia when you've literally been told he's done this as town.

Almonds status: activated

[Hellenic Riot]

For context for those that somehow still didnt figure it out:

I obviously wasnt roleblocked

Well at least that makes me two for two on knowing claims are blatant lies

[rdrivera2005]

Great work town. I didn't see it coming. I scumread Ghug at start, but he just fooled me with his lazy play.

[damo666]

He still tied the vote in the last 20 seconds, thereby nearly saving Ghug.

Who did?

HB

No he didn't. He voted brain!

[Bonatogether]

And indeed Jamiet and Aaro have been acting really weird around my claim all day

aaro is town

[President Eden]

Who did?

HB

No he didn't. He voted brain!

...thereby tying the two lead wagons...

It's irrelevant anyway.

[e.m.c^42]

Well, at least it is good to note, ghug is opposite of damo in tone when playing - playful town, acerbic and coquettish as scum.

[Vecna]

For context for those that somehow still didnt figure it out:

I obviously wasnt roleblocked

Well at least that makes me two for two on knowing claims are blatant lies

Yeah, sometimes I really wonder about the critical thought levels when it takes like 10 people responding before someone finally states "hey guys, he might also be fakeclaiming this as town".

[BunnyGo]

All aboard the brain train.

more pushing brain when he wasn't getting votes

What does htat say to you?

[Vecna]

HB

No he didn't. He voted brain!

...thereby tying the two lead wagons...

It's irrelevant anyway.

As long as u dont forget it if brainyboy somehow flips as fliffed cowdung come morning

[BunnyGo]

Is everyone forgetting I also thought ghug was scum and was on his wagon early...

Durganator is higher. You’re the parlay bet.

While I admit I probably look suspicious right now, how the heck does this follow from a ghug flip?

1) Durga subbing is already suspicious
2) Ghug was *really* mad at me about lying about what the opening posts said about the PMs. And he knows (after last game when she was blatant and unrepentant) that she never reads the opening posts. So he's particularly motivated to end the gag before she gets caught.
3) She was adamantly defending him.