MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

## vote Bona

pigcateons

That is an invalid vote Damo.

[Jamiet99uk]

Alright, time to flash wagon on scum.

##Vote President Eden

@jamiet why tf u wasting my time

How am I "wasting your time", and if I was wasting your time, why did you remove your vote from Chaqa right after this?

[President Eden]

PE has voted nearly every player this game, so if hes scum hes playing antispew to exorbitant measures. Either means his scumteam is struggling or hes cocky

I don’t want to give away too much, but I firmly believe in shopping your vote around in a manner that’s outwardly erratic and unpredictable throughout the day. If people try to call your bluff and not respond to your vote then you can always just park on them and whip votes their way.
It’s especially important to my style because I’m not a particularly good analyst or solver in mafia, especially without meta knowledge. But I am good at doing weird shit that helps the good analysts figure things out.
I think I would try to replicate it as mafia and I would probably be caught instantly lol.

light as a feather stiff as a board
light as a feather stiff as a board

you might be scum

Vote me then

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozo: In particular I direct you to re-read this line:

"So in the heat of the moment, he thought he had to pretend he had a flavour name. Ergo, Ghug is not a VT."

Note my use of the word "pretend".

So you think he thought the VT role PMs included names? The VT role PM is given in post 1.

But Bunny was lying about his own PM, and Ghug lost his cool.

What is your explanation of the post I specifically highlighted, in which Ghug repeated the statement that he knew his flavour name?

[bozotheclown]

Hmmm. It's fairly strong evidence, but the holidays happened, and ND didn't just low post, he never posted following his disappearance, so I think it's fair to say it's different?

Look at his profile:

https://webdiplomacy.net/userprofile.php?userID=68782

Last online Friday 5 PM (EST).

I think he just ghosted.

To add to this, I recall ND almost missing the deadline to confirm his sign up.

I do not see why this is relevant since ND posted at 2 different times D1. His last post, 16 hours after his first 3, clearly indicates he was aware his absence would look suspicious.

[brainbomb]

I don’t want to give away too much, but I firmly believe in shopping your vote around in a manner that’s outwardly erratic and unpredictable throughout the day. If people try to call your bluff and not respond to your vote then you can always just park on them and whip votes their way.
It’s especially important to my style because I’m not a particularly good analyst or solver in mafia, especially without meta knowledge. But I am good at doing weird shit that helps the good analysts figure things out.
I think I would try to replicate it as mafia and I would probably be caught instantly lol.

light as a feather stiff as a board
light as a feather stiff as a board

you might be scum

Vote me then

maybe I will buttercup

[celaph]

Basically:

Kill shuts down Doctor and Cop unless Doctor self-saves.
Roleblock shuts down Doctor or Cop.

So if you use them separately you're doubling chance of minimizing town information. Any competent scumteam would spread them out for the first night or two.

How likely do you think it is for the Doctor to self-save night 1 here?

Hmmmm.

Depends on who the Doctor is, really.

If it were someone under suspicion (say worcej, ghug, HR, etc.) I would say unlikely.

If it's someone who is not under suspicion (say brain, myself, damo, etc.) I would say likely.

It's probably a bit WIFOM-y overall.

To be fair though, I think RHK would fall into that second category. Off the top of my head, there was some pressure on him, but nothing substantial.

[President Eden]

light as a feather stiff as a board
light as a feather stiff as a board

you might be scum

Vote me then

maybe I will buttercup

You won’t

[celaph]

What is your reason that a tie is better for eods?

I don't think a tie is the best result *at* EoD, but late switches to avoid a tie provide good info.

I have not played with Bona before but anyone who has, is it typical for bona to move wagons into tying positions like now or on d1 where he did it with myself and maniac?

Early last game he didn't at all. That said, D5 last game ghug made D5 artificially closer than it should have been and it proved very useful prompting probably my towniest post that game. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Bona picked the idea up from there and is applying it here.

[brainbomb]

Vote me then

maybe I will buttercup

You won’t

if I get 8 others to join Ill do it

[President Eden]

maybe I will buttercup

You won’t

if I get 8 others to join Ill do it

So in other words you won’t. The fuck you scared of?

[Vecna]

##vote Worcej

[bozotheclown]

This theory might be bogus but I think Vecna is scum.

I think the roleblocker doesn’t use their power n1. There’s such a low chance to hit town PR. And if they hit medic, there’s a good chance it won’t matter. So I think they’d not block anyone and then let one of them claim they were role blocked if they need the clear.

This is usually brought up any time someone is RBed, to the point where the mafia typically avoid claiming the RB since it just draws suspicion. I have only seen the mafia try this one time, although it was Vecna, in M44. I think it is more common for the mafia to RB a player so that they draw suspicion if they claim it. The typical play when there is a doctor who can self save if to RB the NK.

[celaph]

You won’t

if I get 8 others to join Ill do it

So in other words you won’t. The fuck you scared of?

Both days so far PE has encouraged people to vote him by demeaning those who don't. Do people with more meta experience know if this is alignment indicative for PE?

[Vecna]

I think it is time for Ireland to decimate these fuckers living in Kent and Alba

[brainbomb]

You won’t

if I get 8 others to join Ill do it

So in other words you won’t. The fuck you scared of?

Death by fire twisters?

[brainbomb]

you were furious with ghug when durga was still around PE. Was that just to argue wth durga or was there substance to the idea that ghug is stifling your little vote everyone imaginable masquerade?

[brainbomb]

I dont think you could be scum with ghug but you couldve definetely been mad at wolfy!durga there

[bozotheclown]

Where did this random worcej wagon come from?

Why is the worcej wagon more random than the other wagons?

[rdrivera2005]

I quite plainly did not ask you to do that. Your filter for day 2 sounds very convinced that HR is mafia up until this post of mine. I hardly think it unreasonable to expect you to push a clear mafia suspect.

What of his posts changed your mind?

If you were following we have a pretty long interaction that make feel that is possible he reacted that way as town. I also liked his analysis on Bona and want to see if he would vote for him or was just throwing shade and not following (something I think is a scumtell from him).
All in all, he is still on my scum list, with Bona and Celaph and Brain as a distant forth.
I have few solid townreads (Jamiet, Damo, Eden and Aaro) and this is worrying me.

Am I reading this right?

You're top 4 scum list from most to least scummy would be:
HR
Bona
Me (Celaph)
Brain

Care to explain what why I'm the third scummiest person this game?

Mostly because of your explanation for your vote moves on EOD1. I also don't get the same town feeling I had on you last game even playing only one day and one night.

Obviously not enough to be voting you, but why are you so upset with my read?