MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

I'd go as far to say that it was scum theater.

Hmmm. Where did bona learn this term from?

Someone coaching him in the mafia QT?

Why did you flag this from bona but not aaro?

Also this is silly, I literally called the exact interaction scum theater earlier. I don’t think I was even the first person to use that term in regards to the HR/rivera interaction this game.

[rdrivera2005]

I need to get back to work, but I have a quick question for everyone (except ghug). What's your opinion on Donny? I think ghug has been town reading them, and I think a few people have been scumreading him, but I don't remember who (and I'm already playing too much during work).

I was scumreading him D1 and just forgot him a bit, but looking his D2 ISO it looks a lot more relaxed from what I remember from scum Donny (not that I remember much).

[Jamiet99uk]

chaqa is scum. none of those posts pointing at bona, emc - and that abomination of the rhk kill - come from a town chaqa mindset.

How do you view the interactions between me / Chaqa / PE in the couple of hours approaching EoD yesterday, Vecna? Particularly the part where I called out Chaqa for shading PE but not seeming to want to vote him, and Chaqa responding to this by creating a PE wagon?

[rdrivera2005]

chaqa is scum. none of those posts pointing at bona, emc - and that abomination of the rhk kill - come from a town chaqa mindset.

After last game it's really hard to me to read Chaqa.

[Vecna]

chaqa is scum. none of those posts pointing at bona, emc - and that abomination of the rhk kill - come from a town chaqa mindset.

How do you view the interactions between me / Chaqa / PE in the couple of hours approaching EoD yesterday, Vecna? Particularly the part where I called out Chaqa for shading PE but not seeming to want to vote him, and Chaqa responding to this by creating a PE wagon?

have not read

[Jamiet99uk]

Look busy! Zultar is watching us.

[Jamiet99uk]

chaqa is scum. none of those posts pointing at bona, emc - and that abomination of the rhk kill - come from a town chaqa mindset.

How do you view the interactions between me / Chaqa / PE in the couple of hours approaching EoD yesterday, Vecna? Particularly the part where I called out Chaqa for shading PE but not seeming to want to vote him, and Chaqa responding to this by creating a PE wagon?

have not read

Ok, well, use your mouse and keyboard to navigate to the pages on which that happened, and take a look.

[President Eden]

I can’t believe emc read, caught up, saw me and Chaqa voting him, and peaced out without a word.

[worcej]

Oh seriously Bozo not this shit again. Scumleaning Worcej because ND subbed out is silly, but making him your top "scumread" and listing this as one of your main reasons is downright ridiculous.

So you dont think the pattern that Bozo listed is at least some reason for suspicion?

ND has a clear pattern of flaking as scum D1 and making excuses, only to pick up later on. He displayed that here. As town he is nearly always hyper involved.

Why does this not at least entice you slightly?

I have a general hatred of any argument that goes "Oh, XX subbed out, they must have been scum".

Also, I remember games where ND has played very well as scum, and put in a lot of effort. He did so in my Toyshop game where he survived until the end, and there was a game a while before that where he spent multiple phases setting up a mis-kill on me in a way that was absolutely infuriating to be on the receiving end of, but he certainly invested in his work.

I was trying to remember this game and point this as the counter example.

[damo666]

Unvote is nearly lead wagon!

[Vecna]

How do you view the interactions between me / Chaqa / PE in the couple of hours approaching EoD yesterday, Vecna? Particularly the part where I called out Chaqa for shading PE but not seeming to want to vote him, and Chaqa responding to this by creating a PE wagon?

have not read

Ok, well, use your mouse and keyboard to navigate to the pages on which that happened, and take a look.

on my phone atm, so unless u link it, itll have to wait.

regardless, if u have reasons to scumread him over, vote vote vote

[worcej]

My current groups fwiw

Strong Town

Jamie PE
-------

Medium Town

Chaqa
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Weak Town

Aaro
Bozo
Donny
rdr
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???

Bona *
Brain **
Bunny **
Celaph *
EMC *
Flum
Ghug *
HB *
Vecna **
Worcej **

Willing to vote any in the ??? group but the more the asterisks the greater the willingness to vote them.

Can you explain your willingness to vote me and Ghug over Flum, while listing them in the same bracket?

Whats the point of listing these brackets, but then being unwilling to vote them?

Sounds like a wonderfull way to claim later on that you were suspicious of the Flum/durga slot and to set up a future bus.

You haven't read properly. I said I am willing to vote any in the ??? group. The number of asterisks indicate the strength of said willing. Of the ??? group I am most reluctant to vote Flum as he is a new entrant and I'd rather give him a chance. If he was the only viable wagon of those in the ??? group I would vote him.

At the moment the only viable wagons in the group are ghug and worcej. Since worcej is ** and ghug * I am voting worcej.

Still no why for the rankings...

[Vecna]

I can’t believe emc read, caught up, saw me and Chaqa voting him, and peaced out without a word.

how do you know he read to the point of catching up? why arent you critical of any of the shit posts that chaqa made recently?

[worcej]

When was it actually announced he asked for a replacement?

Worcej has claimed that he was contacted by Tom asking if he could sub in, about three hours before D1 EoD.

did the actual replacement happen EoD1 or EoN1?

EOD1

[worcej]

Can you explain your willingness to vote me and Ghug over Flum, while listing them in the same bracket?

Whats the point of listing these brackets, but then being unwilling to vote them?

Sounds like a wonderfull way to claim later on that you were suspicious of the Flum/durga slot and to set up a future bus.

You haven't read properly. I said I am willing to vote any in the ??? group. The number of asterisks indicate the strength of said willing. Of the ??? group I am most reluctant to vote Flum as he is a new entrant and I'd rather give him a chance. If he was the only viable wagon of those in the ??? group I would vote him.

At the moment the only viable wagons in the group are ghug and worcej. Since worcej is ** and ghug * I am voting worcej.

I read it perfectly fine. Why are you willing to give flum a chance, yet not me while its obviously clear that im also just now starting to participate?

Also, why are you giving flum a pass when this is the first phase I am eligible to be voted for too?

[Jamiet99uk]

have not read

Ok, well, use your mouse and keyboard to navigate to the pages on which that happened, and take a look.

on my phone atm, so unless u link it, itll have to wait.

regardless, if u have reasons to scumread him over, vote vote vote

Pages 65 to 67, mostly.

[worcej]

It turns out Worcej/ND would have been in my Tier 3 (could kill could save) but none of my Tier 4s are wagons yet, so that's probably my starting point.

##Vote Worcej

Low effort. At least scum me a little...

[worcej]

Oh, and I tend to believe Vecna was roleblocked.

I don't think there's much reason to put the roleblock on your kill target in this setup.

Agreed

[Jamiet99uk]

I have been staring at this game too long. I am still happy flipping Ghug, I have to say.

I'm going to go put something in the oven and play with my model trains while it's cooking. I'll check back in before EoD.

[President Eden]

I can’t believe emc read, caught up, saw me and Chaqa voting him, and peaced out without a word.

how do you know he read to the point of catching up? why arent you critical of any of the shit posts that chaqa made recently?

How does this question help you find the mafia?