MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm slow on the uptake tonight, this IS you doing a bit about tunneling yea? If not then pretend I gave you a blank stare and asked "why?"

Because

Scum have jobs.

And your job is to tunnel Aaro to take the heat off my relentless pressure on you?

[brainbomb]

scum ghug tends to fear me for some reason. Occasionally he hides from me and admits im scary. So far ghug hasnt really felt imposing on me. I dont feel as threatened as I usually do. I still think hes doing his routine where he treats the game like its his painting and nobody else gets to hold the brush.

HR feels lazier than usual. even in futility HR pushes usually feel informed by something and they dont die out. Theres been so little content in the rivera vs HR stuff im beginning to wonder if its w/w

Nobody fears you. That's like being afraid of skimmed milk.

If its not properly pastuerized thats actually very disconcerting

[Jamiet99uk]

We're on the third bottle of Prosecco AMA

Why is it taking aaro so long to finish his homework so I can stop pretending to scumread him?

I played among us earlier and then just went to qfc

Quentucky Fried Chicken?

[Jamiet99uk]

I’m going to tank my first scum game just to mess with bunny

Bonus points if it includes a day 2 meltdown like my first game as scum. No, don't do that.
On ghug, I reread it and while I don't think it is a scumslip, ghug's reaction to it bugs me and he drops down to null.

Some accuse ghuggers of scum slipping?

Yes, I did, and it involves your interaction with Ghug D1.
You should really read my post.

[Jamiet99uk]

I played mafio f2f with his dad many weekends for the better part of a decade.

Face-to-face Mario?

What did you do, both dress up as plumbers and run round the neighbourhood eating mushrooms?

[Jamiet99uk]

Some accuse ghuggers of scum slipping?

Jamiet page 121

Thanks. That's dumb. I'd have to reread everything in context again, but I didn't get a scumslip impression.

Excuse me.
EXCUSE ME?

My carefully considered and well-articulated post about Ghug slipping in response to your questioning was not dumb and since you were the catalyst for it, I would like you to go back and address it properly.

[Jamiet99uk]

So here's what I need to bring to the attention of the class. Earlier today I re-read some stuff from D1 and I think Ghug is definitely either scum or a PR. If he's the second, then I'm sorry. But assuming the first, I think it is possible that Ghug genuinely scum-slipped in his response to BunnyGo's unethical posts in which he lied about his Role PM.

Here is the post from Ghug which I think is significant - it's not a post from the time of the original exchange (that was on pages 39 and 40), but a little later, on page 49:

I've gotten pretty annoyed at everyone who's done this recently. I wasn't particularly kind to you when you were lying about GM communication last game, and that was less egregious than this to me. I PMed worcej suggesting clarifications on the town PM to help scum when I was town. Don't call it an overreaction just because you don't think what you did was wrong.

I claimed godfather because it was the first scum role that came to mind that fit my flavor name.

You'll note I did respond to you every time you brought it up. I flipped a shit the third or fourth time when it became clear you were actually serious and I found it objectionable.

I have highlighted the problematic line. It's a real "yikes" moment. Ghug says: "it was the first scum role that fit my flavor name"..... How does Ghug have a flavour name? Why, after retracting his "Godfather" claim, did Ghug continue to tell us that he knew his flavour name? There is no "Father Ghug" in the opening flavour and I am very sure there were no flavour names in the Role PMs. I sure don't know what my flavour name is going to be if I flip. This implies to me that Ghug actually thought, for real, that the Vanilla Townies had been told their flavour names (I know this ain't so). So in the heat of the moment, he thought he had to pretend he had a flavour name. Ergo, Ghug is not a VT.

Could it be that the above statement by Ghug _actually_ confirms, in plain sight, that he is not only *not* a VT, but actually the Godfather? Did Bunny truly make him snap so badly that he outed his role? Perhaps I am missing something but I cannot understand why Ghug carried on saying he knew his flavour name, after he stepped back from the "Godfather" part.

Ghug, if I'm wrong here, please feel free to explain to me how you claimed to know your flavour name?

I noticed this last night (which is why Ghug was in my scumreads) but I was reluctant to draw attention to it because I still think it was unfair of Bunny to put Ghug in this position. Nonetheless, the information is out there now. I cannot un-see it or pretend I did not see it. Here it is. I think Ghug is scum.

There is nothing in the role PMs given in post 1 about names, your theory seems to be based on the mafia and PRs having names, which does not appear to be the case.

**KLAXON OF FAILURE**

Totally incorrect, Bozo. You have entirely failed to understand my post. That is absolutely not my theory at all.

Try reading it again please.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozo: In particular I direct you to re-read this line:

"So in the heat of the moment, he thought he had to pretend he had a flavour name. Ergo, Ghug is not a VT."

Note my use of the word "pretend".

[Jamiet99uk]

worcej is my top suspect for these reasons:

1. ND getting subbed D1 is a scum red flag for me.

Oh seriously Bozo not this shit again. Scumleaning Worcej because ND subbed out is silly, but making him your top "scumread" and listing this as one of your main reasons is downright ridiculous.

[Jamiet99uk]

You will have to be more specific.

Jamie caught damo lying about his meta and PE did the whole Bunny posting at night thing.

Jamie pointing out a damo vote from M55 when damo made 2 equivalent votes in the last game made me wonder if Jamie started with M1.

I actually read every post Damo has ever posted on both the new forum and the old one, as well as Reddit, Tumblr, and Livejournal, in the space of five minutes. I'm a very fast reader as you can tell from this fact.

[Jamiet99uk]

And I'm caught up. Conclusions from my catch-up:

- Ghug is still scum.
- BunnyGo has been very lazy since his return.
- Aaro and Celaph are town.
- Bozo is awful.
- Brainbomb thinks Ghug would find skimmed milk "very disconcerting".

[Jamiet99uk]

That took the whole of my lunch break and a little more. I must now return to being an adult with a serious job. I will be back in around about 4 hours.

Until then, I will leave you with this advice:

It is in your power to withdraw yourself whenever you desire. Perfect tranquillity within consists in the good ordering of the mind, the realm of your own. Tidy your realm each day. Close the door, sweep away the orange peelings, spray the air with lavender oil, and then you can relax into a state of tranquillitude.

[damo666]

National Savings must be overflowing in paper clips and Lavender Oil

[Chaqa]

I understand the ghug and Bozo voters.

Worcej voters... why?

[damo666]

My current groups fwiw

Strong Town

Jamie PE
-------

Medium Town

Chaqa
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Weak Town

Aaro
Bozo
Donny
rdr
-------

???

Bona *
Brain **
Bunny **
Celaph *
EMC *
Flum
Ghug *
HB *
Vecna **
Worcej **

Willing to vote any in the ??? group but the more the asterisks the greater the willingness to vote them.

[brainbomb]

That took the whole of my lunch break and a little more. I must now return to being an adult with a serious job. I will be back in around about 4 hours.

Until then, I will leave you with this advice:

It is in your power to withdraw yourself whenever you desire. Perfect tranquillity within consists in the good ordering of the mind, the realm of your own. Tidy your realm each day. Close the door, sweep away the orange peelings, spray the air with lavender oil, and then you can relax into a state of tranquillitude.

okay deepak

[damo666]

I understand the ghug and Bozo voters.

Worcej voters... why?

a) Bozo's mad theory
b) Worcej will probably go sooner or later anyway due to the D1 vote

[damo666]

Bozo seemed to imply he was signalling something with his use of multiple colours. I've no idea what this might be but is it more likely as town or scum?

Would you like to tell us what you meant Bozo?

[Fluminator]

Damo, do you enjoy playing as town or scum more?

[Chaqa]

I understand the ghug and Bozo voters.

Worcej voters... why?

a) Bozo's mad theory
b) Worcej will probably go sooner or later anyway due to the D1 vote

Link to Bozo's theory? I must have missed it.

I still think there was no reason for the ND wagon day 1, especially once he was due for replacement.