MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

I feel like Alex Karev right now

Who?

[ghug]

- Durga, ghug, brainbomb, HR all look town. Donny Dude's n1 has been much better than his d1, I'm back to null. aarodactyl worries me slightly for the way he has been soft-defending BunnyGo on the two occasions I put him in the spotlight (post count analysis just now, Vecna meme vote day 1). If BG is mafia look at Vecna too now that I think about it.

Yeah, I agree it looks bad for me if Bunny flips scum, and considering I have them as a scumlead, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. Also, I don't really remember the meme vote thing day 1. I think your recent analysis could interesting, but not a smoking gun like you portrayed it as.

EMC just said that Bunny is good about using real life excuses as a way to lurk, and to be honest, I hadn't thought about that either this game or last game (and that's honestly making me feel a bit silly). That's part of the reason I excused them for being away at EOD and not coming back.

I think I like this post.

[ghug]

I feel like Alex Karev right now

Who?

Apparently he's a character in everyone's second favorite syndicated television program set in Seattle.

[brainbomb]

I feel like Alex Karev right now

Who?

Apparently he's a character in everyone's second favorite syndicated television program set in Seattle.

Are you saying Frasier #1? because so much yes

[Jamiet99uk]

I feel like Alex Karev right now

Who?

Apparently he's a character in everyone's second favorite syndicated television program set in Seattle.

I don't have a television.

[ghug]

Who?

Apparently he's a character in everyone's second favorite syndicated television program set in Seattle.

Are you saying Frasier #1? because so much yes

I'm more saying GA #2 than Frasier #1 because I'm a curmudgeon who hates everything, but yes.

The best thing set in Seattle is The Details, which was weirdly actually filmed here and not in Vancouver like everything else.

[ghug]

Oh also Hump Day is pretty solid.

[brainbomb]

GA is barely even seattle. its just pics of the ferry and of the downtown. there arent enough scenes with homeless crack heads selling rock at the bus stop

[brainbomb]

or people still dressed as goths walking around the club district. Goths still exist in seattle.

[damo666]

Can people please refrain from posting non game related stuff.

Thanks.

[e.m.c^42]

- Durga, ghug, brainbomb, HR all look town. Donny Dude's n1 has been much better than his d1, I'm back to null. aarodactyl worries me slightly for the way he has been soft-defending BunnyGo on the two occasions I put him in the spotlight (post count analysis just now, Vecna meme vote day 1). If BG is mafia look at Vecna too now that I think about it.

Yeah, I agree it looks bad for me if Bunny flips scum, and considering I have them as a scumlead, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. Also, I don't really remember the meme vote thing day 1. I think your recent analysis could interesting, but not a smoking gun like you portrayed it as.

EMC just said that Bunny is good about using real life excuses as a way to lurk, and to be honest, I hadn't thought about that either this game or last game (and that's honestly making me feel a bit silly). That's part of the reason I excused them for being away at EOD and not coming back.

Not necessarily good, but in the previous game (M62) he did in fact take advantage of RL to send a coded message, about his results tracking me iirc?

So there is precedent, but he hasn't popped up with an excuse yet lmao, so we shall see.

[ghug]

Can people please refrain from posting non game related stuff.

Thanks.

inb4 bozo with Bee Movie again.

[brainbomb]

Maniac is watching.

-waves-

[brainbomb]

sorry you died Maniac.

I love you

[ghug]

sorry you died Maniac.

I love you

The handsomest dead townie, without question.

[e.m.c^42]

- Everyone not rated is otherwise null and I have not much in the way of useful insights there.

I'm devastated, depression overflowing from my mind asunder, why have I dropped off to be of no notice?

Well it's more that I'm actually getting suspicious of you but I don't know what to make of it. You are noticed.

Oh? Is this just gut or did something happen :D

[President Eden]

Since I'm dying first and I don't want to interrupt Among Us tonight:

- Shoot Bunny #1 Bona #2. I'm highly confident in these. I think I found Bunny's tell (for now) and I think Bona would be way more excited to be playing. If Bunny disappears in day 2 as well then maybe we can start being worried, but I expect he's going to hit 100 posts on day 2 and if he does you better not let him off the hook. We need to see higher quality and quantity solving from Bona - even given RL excuses, his reads have regressed in specificity and attention to detail from last game, and I think it's because he has all the answers.

- If Bona is mafia, don't forget the post I highlighted with the scattershot names. I really think some of the lower-middle post count lurkers that he didn't mention were his partners.

- Keep an eye on rivera, if he's not really driving at reads with specificity tomorrow then he probably has to go. Probably my actual #3 at this point (see note about Jamie below).

- If my earlier suspects are right then I have no idea what to make of ND/worcej slot. Hellenic Riot wagon almost looks like mafia forced a fresh counterwagon because they thought Maniac wouldn't go through. But this is like 3 levels of pre-flip associations so don't take it too seriously.

- I think I was wrong about Jamie. I reread our exchange while I was thinking about ghug's comment that Jamie was moving around a lot, and I think I overstated the importance of some of his behavior. EOD is really useful to analyze after the fact, but it's easy to get tunnel vision on the intuitive reactions you have at the time. I'm feeling like I did that with Jamie. I trust y'all to be able to sort him out in any case.

- Durga, ghug, brainbomb, HR all look town. Donny Dude's n1 has been much better than his d1, I'm back to null. aarodactyl worries me slightly for the way he has been soft-defending BunnyGo on the two occasions I put him in the spotlight (post count analysis just now, Vecna meme vote day 1). If BG is mafia look at Vecna too now that I think about it.

- Chaqa is town and trolling me by sussing me, he doesn't actually think I am mafia.

- Everyone not rated is otherwise null and I have not much in the way of useful insights there.

- Fuck you Chaqa you were wrong lololololol

[damo666]

The SPAM para in the first post uses a word we no longer use.

[Hellenic Riot]

EoN1 Reads List:

aarodactyl - No real thoughts, though I'm not a fan of the way he gave himself the option to vote both Maniac and ND and that's about it D1, particularly when he made posts interacting with a lot of other people

Bonatogether - Slight scum... The way he came out to say he might look suspicious because he has to play differently this time due to plus ones being banned sounded an awful lot like a pre-emptive defence.

Bozotheclown - Standard. Null.

brainbomb - Much more like the brain of yore, and I'm not a huge fan of some of his arguments (suggesting that ghug was sheeping Durga onto ND when ghug started the ND wagon is a pretty huge thing to have somehow overlooked). But then, that's exactly what I'd have expected of the brain of yore, so who knows.

BunnyGo - His attack on me D1 felt extremely different to the way he played last game where he was friendly and cheerful and avoided conflict, so I'm leaning town. I also find PE's case that Bunny is scum because he's not posting at night to be full of a gigantic hole stemming from the fact that 1 weird town night (where Bunny was the top poster only because a lot of people had already begun not talking that night) is his only proof that this is a scumtell for him.

celaph - One of the people on a pretty weak ND wagon and then ends up voting Maniac, not the best of looks either way. Expected somewhat more. Null.

damo666 - Leaning town, seems a lot more willing to engage people than last game, but I've been fooled before

DemonRHK - Very serious very fast, but I think that's a pretty solid townmove and I don't expect him to have been the first to break the start of game shitposts as scum. Liked his consistency too. Strong Town.

Donny Dude - No thoughts whatsoever

Durga - Scum. The following onto ND felt opportunistic and without belief, and until the moment where I said I scumread her I felt she was being extremely friendly and basically as inoffensive as possible, and only after that was she jolted into pushing harder on ND too and being somewhat more proactive. I feel like the way she pushed Chaqa and then gave up on it later was very inauthentic too - Basically folding into other people's reads of him rather than firmly believing in it herself.

emc - Still shocked he followed my botscan read vote on rdrivera given he'd already brought up last game and clearly therefore remembers how I'd made a similar (though much more detailed) case on him then. Don't think he'd have the balls to start a wagon on me as scum given what happened last game though, so I'm leaning town.

ghug - Fairly town. Like the way he recused himself from the option of voting me when I came up, given it's very different to his scumplay in M60, though of course he could have anticipated that I'd not be daykilled anyway. Also think that his criticism of the Maniac wagon despite how weak his own wagon was is something he'd lack the confidence to do as scum.

Hamilton Brian - I don't think I've ever noticed HB less than I have in this game, which is somewhat jarring and not a good thing. Slight scum who definitely needs to be looked into more.

Jamie - Responded to my bait with the aggression I'd expect him to show as town and which was so lacking last game, though the fact everyone had basically spelt out exactly why Jamie was so scummy to him last game means that a conscious change of meta is possible. Unlikely though. Leaning town.

NCej - No opinion at all

President Eden - Found myself fundamentally disagreeing with an awful lot of what he's said, but my only previous memory of him is all the way back in M10 and I do recall his leadership being a big part in the town imploding that game, so maybe that's just how he is

rdrivera - Scum. Very scum. No opinions or thoughts on anyone D1 which is so completely out of character for someone who seems to usually do as much as they can D1 before they get NK'd. Comes in N1 to basically OMGUS me without any thoughts of a case or indeed without remotely interacting with the myriad of people who had townread me for exactly the same stuff he was claiming was my obvious scum meta. He's done absolutely nothing to try and find scum aside from that, and he just ain't town.

Vecna - Ah yes, he exists.

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Since I typed this in advance I've read Bona's reads list and the fact that he basically townreads everyone except Bunny is not something I like at all. Increases my scumread on him. The fact he's nowhere near as interested in needling people who scumread him (something which was basically his defining trait last game) is also the total opposite of how I expected him to react.

[Hamilton Brian]

Haven't really had the time, given the looming "empty nest syndrome" we're experiencing here in the Hamilton Brian household. It's a weird thing where after so many years, it's a big change. Seems bigger than when our daughter left to go teach in Japan.

Anyway, not sure what's happened but I do think that Pres Eden and Jamie are both town. Both have created heavy tomes of reading. Both are going at it. I seem to recall a meta of Jamie that when they are town and invested in the game, they get agitated, frustrated, and it comes out aggressive. I'm the same way...imagine my marriage. I can't get most of you to understand me and my ADD ravings. My poor wife!

And Pres Eden...no one does that amount of writing if they are not town.

Yall are fighting for the same thing.

Those are my two big reads.