MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1701 Post by Donny Dude » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:27 am
700wchqsc1/2AUt
Does that work as a summary.
I want to read this novel eden publish it. I need to read something after bingereading a 200 chapter webnovel.
Title? I'll take recs too. @aaro you as well.
You don't mind litrpg emc?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#1702 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:04 pm

Read Eden's wall, agreement on HR and ND conclusions, disagree on RHK but that's only due to previous point that no-one addressed (is he one to get serious all so soon? I remember him shitposting and then AFK and it was mainly latter this time around).

It's a bit long as the tl;dr prolly could've just been the entire post but I'm weak for walls, lol. NAI happy points to Eden.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1703 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:05 pm

Donny Dude wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:27 am
700wchqsc1/2AUt
Does that work as a summary.
I want to read this novel eden publish it. I need to read something after bingereading a 200 chapter webnovel.
Title? I'll take recs too. @aaro you as well.
You don't mind litrpg emc?
Well, top three favourites. I'm open to any genre or type.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1704 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:07 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:05 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm


Title? I'll take recs too. @aaro you as well.
You don't mind litrpg emc?
Well, top three favourites. I'm open to any genre or type.
Is bozo going to read my suggestions and then scumread me for them? (Also, no hard feeling for last game. I'm just enjoying the jokes at this point)

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1705 Post by Donny Dude » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:10 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:05 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm


Title? I'll take recs too. @aaro you as well.
You don't mind litrpg emc?
Well, top three favourites. I'm open to any genre or type.
Azarinth Healer, Delve, and not litrpg First Contact.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/16946/azarinth-healer
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/25225/delve
First contact is also on the same website but it is also on reddit. The reddit is more up to date. https://www.reddit.com/user/Ralts_Bloodthorne/
Also, if you have not read jenkinsverse on hfy is also a suggestion.
These are some of the more well-reated ones but there is a lot of variety from pre fantasy to scifi and everything in between.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1706 Post by worcej » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:25 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:10 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:25 pm
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Absence is a valid reason. Look at Yoyo in the last game.
Choosing one specific example to justify this is poor.

I’ll do the same - Remember SarahK24? She was absent and was town in the 2 games she played.
She was scum with me actually. She got replaced by Chaqa, who was apparently still very killable at that point. It was frustrating.
That was her third game.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1707 Post by ghug » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:26 pm

worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:25 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:10 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:25 pm
Choosing one specific example to justify this is poor.

I’ll do the same - Remember SarahK24? She was absent and was town in the 2 games she played.
She was scum with me actually. She got replaced by Chaqa, who was apparently still very killable at that point. It was frustrating.
That was her third game.
You said she "was town in the 2 games she played".

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1708 Post by worcej » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:28 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:22 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:45 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:35 pm
I mean, I guess it can not look good.

But I don’t feel bad saying this: the fact that a guy had 4 posts and no votes and was going to be subbed out was the 2nd highest wagon is pathetic and every town player who pushed for it needs to really reflect on how bad that actually is.
I also want to add, specifically to you bozo, that you are building a case to flip me based on absolutely nothing I can defend or argue against.

What should I do, just roll over and say nothing? I know my alignment and know you’re wrong so I am going to point out how bad of a job you are building this ‘justification’ to vote for me on D2.
Yes, I am saying resolving your slot would be a good idea for reasons that have nothing to do with you, yet instead of moving on you are calling ND voters pathetic. Your attempts to discredit ND voters has given me another reason to suspect you besides the things ND did that you have to control over.
I don’t feel bad for discrediting the ND voters because they deserve the discredit. ND did nothing this game to warrant being a wagon and you’re just trying to make reasoning after D1 happened and he didn’t flip.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1709 Post by worcej » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:28 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:26 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:25 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:10 pm


She was scum with me actually. She got replaced by Chaqa, who was apparently still very killable at that point. It was frustrating.
That was her third game.
You said she "was town in the 2 games she played".
Did she play in the game she had to be subbed out of?

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#1710 Post by worcej » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:31 pm

brainbomb wrote:
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im blocked from bot at work so if anyone wants to do a quick iso of Trumpy go for it
There really isn’t anything there.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1711 Post by ghug » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:32 pm

worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:28 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:26 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:25 pm
That was her third game.
You said she "was town in the 2 games she played".
Did she play in the game she had to be subbed out of?
She posted twice. Whether that means she played is a philosophical question not suited to a lowly priest like me.

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#1712 Post by aarodactyl » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:36 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:05 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:59 pm


Title? I'll take recs too. @aaro you as well.
You don't mind litrpg emc?
Well, top three favourites. I'm open to any genre or type.
To be honest, I don't think a lot of the webnovels I read were particularly high quality, and I read a lot of them back before there was much money in translating them, so most of the translations were pretty bad. Also all the good translations are mostly behind paywalls. However, I'm sure you can use google to still find them for free.

-Lord of mysteries
-Way of Choices*
-The King's Avatar*

*I haven't finished either of these, but all three novels are complete.

We should probably take this discussion elsewhere so we don't clog up actual mafia talk, but I have no idea if that's even allowed.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1713 Post by worcej » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:39 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:43 pm
brainbomb wrote:
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I feel that mafia would prefer a maniac death over killing nd/worcej. Bozo is scum, donny is town. there was a point where bozo wanted to kill ND so there wouldnt be a sub out, then someone else said ND was gonna be modkilled which had zero factual basis in reality.

there was a narrative to kill ND by some people who seemed scummy, and yet if ND / worcej is town then maybe scum is just ultra inexperienced and did nothing there.

ill reread aaaro, celaph and bozo tonight.
Why do you say the mafia would prefer a Maniac DK then conclude I am scum?

I did not want to DK ND to prevent a sub, I thought he would be a reasonable DK because he was allowing himself to be subbed by not meeting the voting requirement.
Not to burst your bubble, but your theory is wrong. I was contacted before EOD and asked to enter at EOD because I was busy.

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#1714 Post by worcej » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:42 pm

worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:39 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:43 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:09 pm
I feel that mafia would prefer a maniac death over killing nd/worcej. Bozo is scum, donny is town. there was a point where bozo wanted to kill ND so there wouldnt be a sub out, then someone else said ND was gonna be modkilled which had zero factual basis in reality.

there was a narrative to kill ND by some people who seemed scummy, and yet if ND / worcej is town then maybe scum is just ultra inexperienced and did nothing there.

ill reread aaaro, celaph and bozo tonight.
Why do you say the mafia would prefer a Maniac DK then conclude I am scum?

I did not want to DK ND to prevent a sub, I thought he would be a reasonable DK because he was allowing himself to be subbed by not meeting the voting requirement.
Not to burst your bubble, but your theory is wrong. I was contacted before EOD and asked to enter at EOD because I was busy.
It also kept the option to not need to use me as a sub if you all successfully flipped him instead, but this is my own opinion and not anything Tom said.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE

#1715 Post by ghug » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:42 pm

worcej wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:39 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:43 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:09 pm
I feel that mafia would prefer a maniac death over killing nd/worcej. Bozo is scum, donny is town. there was a point where bozo wanted to kill ND so there wouldnt be a sub out, then someone else said ND was gonna be modkilled which had zero factual basis in reality.

there was a narrative to kill ND by some people who seemed scummy, and yet if ND / worcej is town then maybe scum is just ultra inexperienced and did nothing there.

ill reread aaaro, celaph and bozo tonight.
Why do you say the mafia would prefer a Maniac DK then conclude I am scum?

I did not want to DK ND to prevent a sub, I thought he would be a reasonable DK because he was allowing himself to be subbed by not meeting the voting requirement.
Not to burst your bubble, but your theory is wrong. I was contacted before EOD and asked to enter at EOD because I was busy.
Which theory is that? I'm not sure how when you were asked affects anything.

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Re: MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

#1716 Post by President Eden » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:44 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:39 pm
I think BunnyGo has been too busy posting in his Mafia QuickTopic to post in here.
Guys I think I actually caught him. Real quick, give me any games you can remember where BG was mafia. I have M61 and M62 that I'm compiling my data for right now.
I went back a few months and I only found useful data on BunnyGo from the last two games he’s played—M61 and M62—in both of which he was mafia.

TL;DR: Bunny stops posting in game threads at night when he's mafia. Just like he is doing now.

As mafia, the difference between BunnyGo’s posting at day and posting at night is dramatic. When BunnyGo is mafia, his posting drops off a cliff at night, at least early in the game. The obvious logical explanation for why this happens is that he’s busy communicating with his partners in the Mafia QuickTopic, and that there’s not a lot at stake for the mafia in the main thread at night in most games, since no one can vote. As the game progresses, BunnyGo’s nighttime posting activity reaches average player levels; it makes sense that it would rise here, since there are more happenings during the nights of later games, and there’s less communication in the QT due to fewer mafia players being alive. Here are some samples of post counts from recently completed games.

M62
Day 1: 166 posts, 7.6% of player posting volume (Expected PPV: 3.8%)
Day 2: 48 posts, 2.9% (EPPV: 4.2%)
Day 3: 149 posts, 8.7% (EPPV: 4.8%)

Night 1: 1 post, 0.4% (EPPV: 4%)
Night 2: 1 post, 0.2% (EPPV: 4.3%)

M61
Day 1: 102 posts, 9.1% of player posting volume (Expected PPV: 5.6%)
Day 2: 41 posts, 4.6% (EPPV: 5.9%)
Day 3: 57 posts, 9.0% (EPPV: 7.1%)
Day 4: 79 posts, 7.7% (EPPV: 8.3%)
Day 5: 107 posts, 19.3% (EPPV: 10%)
Day 6: 95 posts, 18.5% (EPPV: 11.1%)
Day 7: 23 posts, 15.1% (EPPV: 12.5%)

Night 1: 1 post, 0.5% (EPPV: 5.6%)
Night 2: 9 posts, 5.0% (EPPV: 7.1%)
Night 3: 0 posts, 0% (EPPV: 8.3%)
Night 4: 23 posts, 16.4% (EPPV: 10%)
Night 5: 4 posts, 11.1% (EPPV: 11.1%)
Night 6: 13 posts, 18.1% (EPPV: 12.5%)

[In the interest of full disclosure, I only found one town game, M60, and there are some anomalies I don’t understand. In it, BunnyGo was town, and was nightkilled at the end of Night 3. BunnyGo only posted on Night 1, where he was the lead poster. He did not post on Nights 2 or 3, which suggests that this might not be alignment-indicative behavior. However, half the players did not post on either night, which I found to be very strange as posting was not banned. I felt this game was too anomalous to include, but I would welcome someone who played M60 to explain. But because this was the only town game from within the past few months in which BunnyGo was able to post at night (he died day 1 in M58), I must acknowledge that I have no recent town games against which I can compare.]

With that said, there’s an obvious apparent explanation for why this behavior is alignment-indicative. We know from the M62 and M61 Mafia QTs that Bunny doesn’t stop playing at night on principle—he’s just busy in the mafia thread, not the game thread. I believe that’s where he is right now.

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#1717 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 pm

No gm would ever sub in a new player with under 3 hours to go —ESPECIALLY NOT IF THE SUB IN WAS THE LEAD WAGON—.

I think you know that but just in case youre a complete idiot, lets establish that

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#1718 Post by Donny Dude » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:53 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:47 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:44 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:39 pm
I think BunnyGo has been too busy posting in his Mafia QuickTopic to post in here.
Guys I think I actually caught him. Real quick, give me any games you can remember where BG was mafia. I have M61 and M62 that I'm compiling my data for right now.
I went back a few months and I only found useful data on BunnyGo from the last two games he’s played—M61 and M62—in both of which he was mafia.

TL;DR: Bunny stops posting in game threads at night when he's mafia. Just like he is doing now.

As mafia, the difference between BunnyGo’s posting at day and posting at night is dramatic. When BunnyGo is mafia, his posting drops off a cliff at night, at least early in the game. The obvious logical explanation for why this happens is that he’s busy communicating with his partners in the Mafia QuickTopic, and that there’s not a lot at stake for the mafia in the main thread at night in most games, since no one can vote. As the game progresses, BunnyGo’s nighttime posting activity reaches average player levels; it makes sense that it would rise here, since there are more happenings during the nights of later games, and there’s less communication in the QT due to fewer mafia players being alive. Here are some samples of post counts from recently completed games.

M62
Day 1: 166 posts, 7.6% of player posting volume (Expected PPV: 3.8%)
Day 2: 48 posts, 2.9% (EPPV: 4.2%)
Day 3: 149 posts, 8.7% (EPPV: 4.8%)

Night 1: 1 post, 0.4% (EPPV: 4%)
Night 2: 1 post, 0.2% (EPPV: 4.3%)

M61
Day 1: 102 posts, 9.1% of player posting volume (Expected PPV: 5.6%)
Day 2: 41 posts, 4.6% (EPPV: 5.9%)
Day 3: 57 posts, 9.0% (EPPV: 7.1%)
Day 4: 79 posts, 7.7% (EPPV: 8.3%)
Day 5: 107 posts, 19.3% (EPPV: 10%)
Day 6: 95 posts, 18.5% (EPPV: 11.1%)
Day 7: 23 posts, 15.1% (EPPV: 12.5%)

Night 1: 1 post, 0.5% (EPPV: 5.6%)
Night 2: 9 posts, 5.0% (EPPV: 7.1%)
Night 3: 0 posts, 0% (EPPV: 8.3%)
Night 4: 23 posts, 16.4% (EPPV: 10%)
Night 5: 4 posts, 11.1% (EPPV: 11.1%)
Night 6: 13 posts, 18.1% (EPPV: 12.5%)

[In the interest of full disclosure, I only found one town game, M60, and there are some anomalies I don’t understand. In it, BunnyGo was town, and was nightkilled at the end of Night 3. BunnyGo only posted on Night 1, where he was the lead poster. He did not post on Nights 2 or 3, which suggests that this might not be alignment-indicative behavior. However, half the players did not post on either night, which I found to be very strange as posting was not banned. I felt this game was too anomalous to include, but I would welcome someone who played M60 to explain. But because this was the only town game from within the past few months in which BunnyGo was able to post at night (he died day 1 in M58), I must acknowledge that I have no recent town games against which I can compare.]

With that said, there’s an obvious apparent explanation for why this behavior is alignment-indicative. We know from the M62 and M61 Mafia QTs that Bunny doesn’t stop playing at night on principle—he’s just busy in the mafia thread, not the game thread. I believe that’s where he is right now.
That is interesting and I fully support yeeting bunny.
m60 had aa jail mechanic where the jailed person could not talk so town had to be quiet to cover up who it was.

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#1719 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:53 pm

I could buy bunny as scum. would be a huge meta change from last game.

Aaro any thoughts on BUNNY this time round?

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#1720 Post by Donny Dude » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:54 pm

Although I wonder if town bunny has a similar ratio not counting m60.

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