MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi worcej, I'm prolly shooting you tomorrow for info JSYK, welcome to the game!!!

Go for it. Question is why are you telegraphing having a bullet?

Have you read the setup, Worcej?

[Durga]

@ghug I have a summary of PE's post, but I'd suggest just reading it. It felt very good and imo very towny.

Conclusions/TLDR
- Hellenic Riot very likely town
- If ND is also town then the stagnant ND wagon looks like the safe place for mafia to camp while shading the other wagons, which at least had a relatively high investment level. The Maniac wagon was also fine though, and mostly mafia would just pick whatever is safe and consistent.
- If ND is mafia then the Maniac wagon is where they ended up. Bussing is possible, but we can catch out bussers later when they don't start dying like they should. ND voters are probably town here.
- Demon is fine I was wrong earlier
- Chaqa town
- Jamie, Donny Dude, Bonatogether sus

Townie, sure. But talk about coming to the wrong conclusions. Mafia don't just sit around, it depends on the player. For example, ghug is totally the type to pretend to get something going as scum when there's an easy kill. You just can't make these assumptions.

[Jamiet99uk]

No it was pretty quick celaph is right

Yes, there is something off with the bot timing, votes that the bot is reporting as 3 minutes before EOD happened in the last minute.

I think that is because Tom did this earlier when he was trying to fix things:

DEADLINE HAS MOVED 90 SECONDS LATER

(I promise this is the last one)

[Jamiet99uk]

Apparently I'm writing a novel so sorry in advance.

I will retract my townread if you make my addled ass read more than 500 words.

Fuck your townread

Ahem. Please can we try to make this a pleasant and welcoming environment, even for humanoids like Ghug?

[Durga]

This is the bozo we all know and love

Is it? Because he is making a case because ND once floated out and did so again. One time he was scum, so his slot must be it again?

This is lazy case building and trying to connect a line between over 14 games (aka a long time). If he is doing this now, he better do it again when Durga needs a sub (she dropped out my game as scum) and if bo needs a sub (he dropped out last game and was scum).

Uhhh... Because he pulled out an obscure quote from years ago to make a hilarious observation. I didn't say he was correct, I said it was very much bozo. You're v defensive towards ND despite the fact that all you needed to do was like "yeah he's deadbeat but I'm here now and I'll just prove my towniness with my engagement"

[Jamiet99uk]

I will retract my townread if you make my addled ass read more than 500 words.

I'll write an abridged version for you

I'm a big boy I can read I think

EMC please can you confirm this claim?

Is Ghug a "big boy", in your experience?

[Durga]

“Why is that pathetic worcej?” you may ask, well it’s simple: you couldn’t find anything else more particularly scummy from anyone other than the dude that was going to be subbed? The slot is about to be subbed out and you’re going to get a contributing player, so why push for that flip on D1?

I'm glad you're here now to tell us who's scummy right?

[Durga]

Yes, I think it might be, between the correlation of scum subbing out D1 and the similarities of ND's D1 to his D1 in M49.

Also, you making a priority of trying to discredit ND voters does not look good:

I mean, I guess it can not look good.

But I don’t feel bad saying this: the fact that a guy had 4 posts and no votes and was going to be subbed out was the 2nd highest wagon is pathetic and every town player who pushed for it needs to really reflect on how bad that actually is.

I also want to add, specifically to you bozo, that you are building a case to flip me based on absolutely nothing I can defend or argue against.

What should I do, just roll over and say nothing? I know my alignment and know you’re wrong so I am going to point out how bad of a job you are building this ‘justification’ to vote for me on D2.

All you actually need to do is play the game and scum hunt... It's usually fairly easy to tell if you're town

[Jamiet99uk]

700wchqsc1/2AUt
Does that work as a summary.
I want to read this novel eden publish it. I need to read something after bingereading a 200 chapter webnovel.

I am impressed at Donny's ability to summarise Aaro's summary of President Eden's post using only 15 characters, one of which is punctuation. Good work.

[Durga]

Just the lurking and the memes

So no...

Never change webDip... never change...

Absence is a valid reason. Look at Yoyo in the last game.

Interesting you say this but didn't vote ND until the last second

[Jamiet99uk]

Looks like I have small shoes to fill.

Was the wagon on my former self justified in any way?

Yes, ND had not voted so he knew he was going to get subbed, so getting subbed for not meeting the voting requirement could have been his way of avoiding asking to be subbed D1 as scum have done in the past 2 games.

Bozo does you latest at the time of writing this post prove or dissprove your nd theory?

I have re-read this post from Donny 148 times and I still can understand not it well.

[Jamiet99uk]

Deeb Dibe :DDDDDDDD

<snip>

I will respond to President Eden in detail once I have caught up on the rest.

[Durga]

If you flip town more inferences can be made from the D1 vote and if you flip scum that is clearly helpful (to town).

What specifically will you be able to inference when I flip town?

It would give townpoints (or more accurately non-scumpoints) to PE, emc and celaph for a start.

No it wouldn't. Why not keep a controversial absent player in the game? I'd never want ND to die as scum he literally flames everyone and is never actually able to solve or at least convince people of anything. Also the replacement is worcej who me and ghug fought quite a bit last game. If I'm scum, I want this slot alive for maximum chaos.

[Jamiet99uk]

guys im lurking because im a PR, NK please

Please do not do things like this.

[Jamiet99uk]

This is the bozo we all know and love

Is it? Because he is making a case because ND once floated out and did so again. One time he was scum, so his slot must be it again?

This is lazy case building and trying to connect a line between over 14 games (aka a long time). If he is doing this now, he better do it again when Durga needs a sub (she dropped out my game as scum) and if bo needs a sub (he dropped out last game and was scum).

I agree with this.

Bozo seems to be saying "ND had to be subbed out once before and he was scum so that slot must be scum now" which is a terrible, lazy, stupid, bad argument. And before Bozo says otherwise, going back and reading some previous game might take a few moments, but the conclusion Bozo is presenting here is still extremely lazy and of dubious quality.

I am not saying Worcej/ND is town, I am not sure yet, because I think Worcej would respond like this as any alignment - and he has every right to, since Bozo's argument is dreadful.

Therefore I am no closer to knowing Worcej's alignment, seifisnetni nwolcehtozoB fo noicipsus ym tub.

[Jamiet99uk]

So no...

Never change webDip... never change...

Absence is a valid reason. Look at Yoyo in the last game.

Interesting you say this but didn't vote ND until the last second

I had been on ND's wagon for a significant part of the day, before HR's behaviour triggered me. At the end of the day, having failed to get a PE wagon going with Chaqa, I moved back to ND to prevent a ND / Maniac tie, for two reasons: First, I had reasons to townread Maniac and no reason to townread ND, and second, because absenteeism (whether real or fake) harms the game.

[damo666]

Yes, ND had not voted so he knew he was going to get subbed, so getting subbed for not meeting the voting requirement could have been his way of avoiding asking to be subbed D1 as scum have done in the past 2 games.

Bozo does you latest at the time of writing this post prove or dissprove your nd theory?

I have re-read this post from Donny 148 times and I still can understand not it well.

Smirk

[Jamiet99uk]

I am now going to have a bath and prepare foodstuffs which I will later consume. After that I will return here and reply to President Eden's essay.

[damo666]

What specifically will you be able to inference when I flip town?

It would give townpoints (or more accurately non-scumpoints) to PE, emc and celaph for a start.

No it wouldn't. Why not keep a controversial absent player in the game? I'd never want ND to die as scum he literally flames everyone and is never actually able to solve or at least convince people of anything. Also the replacement is worcej who me and ghug fought quite a bit last game. If I'm scum, I want this slot alive for maximum chaos.

Neither you nor ghug are PE, emc or celaph.

[damo666]

I am now going to have a bath and prepare foodstuffs which I will later consume. After that I will return here and reply to President Eden's essay.

Must be New Year.