MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

The Case For Chaqa:

Chaqa does tend to place low value on day 1, and will try all kinds of silly things to excuse not participating early. But one thing I believe is beyond the pale for him is directly asking to be killed day 1. Chaqa wouldn’t feel right about getting himself killed day 1 and hurting his team if he were mafia, and there’s no world where that helps mafia win: it only could help if he were bussed, but bussing gets very little credit in this group because of how often it’s used.
In contrast, it’s certainly plausible that he might see himself as perpetually suspicious to the town, given his last two games, and that his slot flipping town early could help his team win—if we’re being honest, most games it’s a townie going out in the first couple of rounds, and a townie that’s going to struggle to be townread and productive is a good shot even if it’s wrong.

I am pretty sure Chaqa is town here and will fight him being killed day 1.

I don't believe there's any conviction at all behind this post.

Thanks for sharing but I mean what I say here. There's a method to Chaqa's play that y'all have collectively misunderstood for a couple months now. I've had the benefit of a ton of games of Among Us with him to feel out his style in these social deduction types of games. He'll coast, he'll openly ignore what the player base thinks is optimal play, but he'll never outright throw a game. I am convinced that the only way he would be asking people to daykill him is as some kind of wild gambit to draw a read exactly like this from someone like me that would try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the last two games I can't imagine that going over well.

I don't believe you think that saying you're happy to be a wagon early day one amounts to game throwing. That is an action that is very unlikely to actually get someone killed.

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

[e.m.c^42]

When did Chaqa get a fan club?

I wrote some wonderful Chipotle epics involving him and accidentally got too invested halfway through.

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Please do read them, these two are my favourites out of all the other ones, specially picked 'em out.

[ghug]

Nope, Pres Eden choosing to post that says *something*. Still not sure what.

And I actively chose to *not* say something similar last game.

The more this bit goes on the more I get worried about BG. I don't have a great reason for why really. I just struggle to believe that anybody could think I was trying to communicate anything by the post, and the more I make it clear I wasn't communicating anything, the more BG insists I was. The trouble is that if he's genuine then the town motivation behind his posting is clear, and if he's not then the mafia motivation behind his posting is also clear; and this bit is in this uncanny valley of genuineness where there's nothing I can point to and say "See, he's faking it!" and he totally could mean what he says. But it just don't feel right.

BunnyGo did something like this to me in the last game. Bozo did too. They both spent a period of time being relentlessly obsessed with whether my opening post revealed anything about my Role PM (it did not) and pushed this insignificant point for page after page, the pair of them.

One of them was your teammate and the other was bozo. What's your point?

[Hamilton Brian]

Nice to see I didn't miss much since I last posted on page 20. Just for a point of order we've been, and will continue tomorrow, moving our son out to their first apartment.

I'm okay with it...at 25, it's time. My wife? I don't know...might be a rough couple of days. We are solidly empty-nesters now.

As for this afternoon/evening, plan is for a couple of friends to come hang out in our drive way (not sure what you non North Americans would call it), drink homemade beer, and ingest some shroom chocolate truffles. I'll attempt to avoid any euphoric posting tonight. Of course, it might make reading Bozo's coloured posts easier!!!!

[ghug]

Nice to see I didn't miss much since I last posted on page 20. Just for a point of order we've been, and will continue tomorrow, moving our son out to their first apartment.

I'm okay with it...at 25, it's time. My wife? I don't know...might be a rough couple of days. We are solidly empty-nesters now.

As for this afternoon/evening, plan is for a couple of friends to come hang out in our drive way (not sure what you non North Americans would call it), drink homemade beer, and ingest some shroom chocolate truffles. I'll attempt to avoid any euphoric posting tonight. Of course, it might make reading Bozo's coloured posts easier!!!!

I want to be you when I'm your age.

[Jamiet99uk]

The more this bit goes on the more I get worried about BG. I don't have a great reason for why really. I just struggle to believe that anybody could think I was trying to communicate anything by the post, and the more I make it clear I wasn't communicating anything, the more BG insists I was. The trouble is that if he's genuine then the town motivation behind his posting is clear, and if he's not then the mafia motivation behind his posting is also clear; and this bit is in this uncanny valley of genuineness where there's nothing I can point to and say "See, he's faking it!" and he totally could mean what he says. But it just don't feel right.

BunnyGo did something like this to me in the last game. Bozo did too. They both spent a period of time being relentlessly obsessed with whether my opening post revealed anything about my Role PM (it did not) and pushed this insignificant point for page after page, the pair of them.

One of them was your teammate and the other was bozo. What's your point?

Perhaps it's scum-indicative for him to pick something like this and tunnel on it, I don't know. It just occurred to me to point it out. Mi cipra le facki kau pilno le tadji poi manku, Ghug.

[President Eden]

I don't believe there's any conviction at all behind this post.

Thanks for sharing but I mean what I say here. There's a method to Chaqa's play that y'all have collectively misunderstood for a couple months now. I've had the benefit of a ton of games of Among Us with him to feel out his style in these social deduction types of games. He'll coast, he'll openly ignore what the player base thinks is optimal play, but he'll never outright throw a game. I am convinced that the only way he would be asking people to daykill him is as some kind of wild gambit to draw a read exactly like this from someone like me that would try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the last two games I can't imagine that going over well.

I don't believe you think that saying you're happy to be a wagon early day one amounts to game throwing. That is an action that is very unlikely to actually get someone killed.

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

It definitely amounts to game throwing if you're mafia and everyone already susses the crap out of you for your last couple of games. How does that conceivably advance mafia win condition? He'd have to be banking on somebody making the exact read I did for that to help him out.
It doesn't amount to game throwing if he's town necessarily - it could be a reaction testing gambit, he could be self-aware enough to recognize that he's going to get daykilled eventually based on past meta and that getting it over with day 1 is better for town - but I struggle really hard to see a world where it advances mafia win condition.

Maybe whoever it was that said you're mafia is right

[Hamilton Brian]

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

Are you actively lobbying for a kill of Chaqa D1? If that's the case, good thing they're getting a dog to ease the sting of an early departure. Of course, all of that mental energy they expended winning the last game, I'm actually surprised they'd be in this one.

[Chaqa]

I don't believe there's any conviction at all behind this post.

Thanks for sharing but I mean what I say here. There's a method to Chaqa's play that y'all have collectively misunderstood for a couple months now. I've had the benefit of a ton of games of Among Us with him to feel out his style in these social deduction types of games. He'll coast, he'll openly ignore what the player base thinks is optimal play, but he'll never outright throw a game. I am convinced that the only way he would be asking people to daykill him is as some kind of wild gambit to draw a read exactly like this from someone like me that would try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the last two games I can't imagine that going over well.

I don't believe you think that saying you're happy to be a wagon early day one amounts to game throwing. That is an action that is very unlikely to actually get someone killed.

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

I think the way most of you play mafia is egocentric, bloated, and a waste of time.

[ghug]

Thanks for sharing but I mean what I say here. There's a method to Chaqa's play that y'all have collectively misunderstood for a couple months now. I've had the benefit of a ton of games of Among Us with him to feel out his style in these social deduction types of games. He'll coast, he'll openly ignore what the player base thinks is optimal play, but he'll never outright throw a game. I am convinced that the only way he would be asking people to daykill him is as some kind of wild gambit to draw a read exactly like this from someone like me that would try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the last two games I can't imagine that going over well.

I don't believe you think that saying you're happy to be a wagon early day one amounts to game throwing. That is an action that is very unlikely to actually get someone killed.

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

I think the way most of you play mafia is egocentric, bloated, and a waste of time.

But at least it's not anti-town

[Hamilton Brian]

I want to be you when I'm your age.

Ahhh, thanks. It was a lot easier a couple of years ago. Something about 50, and click...you ain't what you used to be.

[ghug]

Thanks for sharing but I mean what I say here. There's a method to Chaqa's play that y'all have collectively misunderstood for a couple months now. I've had the benefit of a ton of games of Among Us with him to feel out his style in these social deduction types of games. He'll coast, he'll openly ignore what the player base thinks is optimal play, but he'll never outright throw a game. I am convinced that the only way he would be asking people to daykill him is as some kind of wild gambit to draw a read exactly like this from someone like me that would try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the last two games I can't imagine that going over well.

I don't believe you think that saying you're happy to be a wagon early day one amounts to game throwing. That is an action that is very unlikely to actually get someone killed.

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

It definitely amounts to game throwing if you're mafia and everyone already susses the crap out of you for your last couple of games. How does that conceivably advance mafia win condition? He'd have to be banking on somebody making the exact read I did for that to help him out.
It doesn't amount to game throwing if he's town necessarily - it could be a reaction testing gambit, he could be self-aware enough to recognize that he's going to get daykilled eventually based on past meta and that getting it over with day 1 is better for town - but I struggle really hard to see a world where it advances mafia win condition.

Maybe whoever it was that said you're mafia is right

I'm amazed by how lame you are, but I remember being similarly underwhelmed the last time you came back, so it's probably NAI.

[bozotheclown]

Nope, Pres Eden choosing to post that says *something*. Still not sure what.

And I actively chose to *not* say something similar last game.

The more this bit goes on the more I get worried about BG. I don't have a great reason for why really. I just struggle to believe that anybody could think I was trying to communicate anything by the post, and the more I make it clear I wasn't communicating anything, the more BG insists I was. The trouble is that if he's genuine then the town motivation behind his posting is clear, and if he's not then the mafia motivation behind his posting is also clear; and this bit is in this uncanny valley of genuineness where there's nothing I can point to and say "See, he's faking it!" and he totally could mean what he says. But it just don't feel right.

BunnyGo did something like this to me in the last game. Bozo did too. They both spent a period of time being relentlessly obsessed with whether my opening post revealed anything about my Role PM (it did not) and pushed this insignificant point for page after page, the pair of them.

What does that have to do with what PE said about BunnyGo? Are you agreeing that it is something BunnyGo might do as scum?

[Durga]

When did Chaqa get a fan club?

I wrote some wonderful Chipotle epics involving him and accidentally got too invested halfway through.

[click arrow]

[click arrow]

Please do read them, these two are my favourites out of all the other ones, specially picked 'em out.

How are you becoming my favourite webdip person?

[celaph]

@chaqa what do you make of ghug's vote on you and PE's defense?

[Durga]

And we just get drunk and shitpost today like do I really have to find scum rn

[Durga]

Thanks for sharing but I mean what I say here. There's a method to Chaqa's play that y'all have collectively misunderstood for a couple months now. I've had the benefit of a ton of games of Among Us with him to feel out his style in these social deduction types of games. He'll coast, he'll openly ignore what the player base thinks is optimal play, but he'll never outright throw a game. I am convinced that the only way he would be asking people to daykill him is as some kind of wild gambit to draw a read exactly like this from someone like me that would try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the last two games I can't imagine that going over well.

I don't believe you think that saying you're happy to be a wagon early day one amounts to game throwing. That is an action that is very unlikely to actually get someone killed.

Whatever you think of Chaqa, the way he plays mafia as town is anti-town. It really only serves to make his scum game easier. Thus he's not worth keeping around.

It definitely amounts to game throwing if you're mafia and everyone already susses the crap out of you for your last couple of games. How does that conceivably advance mafia win condition? He'd have to be banking on somebody making the exact read I did for that to help him out.
It doesn't amount to game throwing if he's town necessarily - it could be a reaction testing gambit, he could be self-aware enough to recognize that he's going to get daykilled eventually based on past meta and that getting it over with day 1 is better for town - but I struggle really hard to see a world where it advances mafia win condition.

Maybe whoever it was that said you're mafia is right

Naw I agree with ghug

[Jamiet99uk]

The more this bit goes on the more I get worried about BG. I don't have a great reason for why really. I just struggle to believe that anybody could think I was trying to communicate anything by the post, and the more I make it clear I wasn't communicating anything, the more BG insists I was. The trouble is that if he's genuine then the town motivation behind his posting is clear, and if he's not then the mafia motivation behind his posting is also clear; and this bit is in this uncanny valley of genuineness where there's nothing I can point to and say "See, he's faking it!" and he totally could mean what he says. But it just don't feel right.

BunnyGo did something like this to me in the last game. Bozo did too. They both spent a period of time being relentlessly obsessed with whether my opening post revealed anything about my Role PM (it did not) and pushed this insignificant point for page after page, the pair of them.

What does that have to do with what PE said about BunnyGo? Are you agreeing that it is something BunnyGo might do as scum?

What do you mean "what does it have to do with it"?? They're very similar situations and yes, BunnyGo was scum in the last one. Mi cipra le facki kau pilno le tadji poi manku, Bozo.

[bozotheclown]

BunnyGo did something like this to me in the last game. Bozo did too. They both spent a period of time being relentlessly obsessed with whether my opening post revealed anything about my Role PM (it did not) and pushed this insignificant point for page after page, the pair of them.

What does that have to do with what PE said about BunnyGo? Are you agreeing that it is something BunnyGo might do as scum?

What do you mean "what does it have to do with it"?? They're very similar situations and yes, BunnyGo was scum in the last one. Mi cipra le facki kau pilno le tadji poi manku, Bozo.

If that was your point, I do not understand you including me in that since I was town.

[Jamiet99uk]

What does that have to do with what PE said about BunnyGo? Are you agreeing that it is something BunnyGo might do as scum?

What do you mean "what does it have to do with it"?? They're very similar situations and yes, BunnyGo was scum in the last one. Mi cipra le facki kau pilno le tadji poi manku, Bozo.

If that was your point, I do not understand you including me in that since I was town.

Then what do you have to say for yourself, huh?