MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

No. In a vacuum a person that wasted a vote (ESPECIALLY if the previous judgement was a townie), is in most scenarios going to be bad or misguided town. In addition, unless the offender was a wagon the previous day, it would be a low info judgement (not a D1 counterwagon, not clearing up a wagon with multiple votes).

TBH, it's the old 'promise of future activity' and 'push lurks/ineffective townies' plots all in one.

But it's like 30 minutes into D1, so w/e. Trying to get some legit points in amongst the noise.

Oh man, it's damo's shitty math all over again. Where's aaro when you need him?

Two points:
1. Pushing lurkers/ineffective townies is great. I'll only be voting useless people for a couple days after we flip mechanically confirmed scum Vecna.
2. Maniac behaves pretty much solely to get the behavior he wants out of other people. The point he's making is simply that wasting your vote is bad, which is true.

I don't know Demon at all, but I'd say this falls into the realm of speculation instead of damo math. However, as soon as they start to throw some numbers into it, I'll be sure to revisit it.

It was the "in most scenarios going to be bad or misguided town" that gave me flashbacks.

[Durga]

Town vibes from Bunny already

[aarodactyl]

If you keep all the shepards and sell all the shhep your business will go under.

I feel killing town for the sake of them being considered 'useless' is a quick way to spot scum an advantage. Hard telegraphing is just as poor.

Has the meta shifted that hard in that few games?

I have very little knowledge of the meta, but I'll have to say, even though he had a high post count, it felt like Chaqa was able to win the last game by lurking for the early game.

Fair enough. Mostly I just think in more cases than not it's seems likke a subpar strategy in most cases, but it all comes down to how intelligently iy's applied. Heaven knows I'd fuck it up, hence my hesitation.

At least a few people are talking, tho.

You were lucky enough to avoid last game. It was pretty easy for lurkers to slip by considering how noisy and large the game was.


Unrelatedly, I'd like to say that the shitposting is a lot more enjoyable considering I can tell people apart a bit more than last game

[ghug]

Last game:

VOTING

There are two types of voting within this game: collective voting to execute perceived Mafia in Day phases, and Mafia faction actions.

Daykill vote: The first type of voting is for all players during the day, in which you vote for whom you intend to kill. Notate this vote with a pair of hash symbols before your intended vote target (e.g., ##VOTE bo_sox48).
You do not need to spell out your intended target's username fully; as long as the GM can understand who you're referencing. However, if there is a player that the bot does not quite understand without being spelled out in full, it would be helpful for everyone if you could spell their name out in full when voting for them. If in doubt, spell it out!
In the event of a tie during a Daykill vote, no one shall be killed.

##GM NOTE
On this 'Murican Thanksgiving... we have a replacement.
Jamiet99uk has replaced bo_sox48

JAMIET99UK has DIED. He was a ROLEBLOCKER of the EDEN LOYALISTS.

This game:

VOTING

There are three types of voting within this game: collective voting to execute perceived Mafia in Day phases, collective voting to end a Day or Night phase, and Mafia voting to kill town members in Night phases.

“Day Kill” vote: The first level of voting is for whom you intend to kill. Notate this vote with a pair of hash symbols before your intended vote target. (e.g., ##VOTE VECNA) You do not need to spell out your intended target's username fully; as long as the GM can understand who you're referencing. In the event of a tie during an execution vote, no one shall be killed.

##VOTE Vecna

If you disagree with me you're not only wrong, you are also defying the wisdom of Tom, the god of this game. I'd hate to be you!

So, last game I was scum and feared that you'd accidentally slipped and singled out bo. But then I went back and saw that in at least one recent game he'd been the example given for all the votes. So I didn't bring it up (unlike the pressure I put on Chaqa and Jimbo for things I thought I saw).

But this seems a stretch to me. Tom isn't known for slips like this. And unlike last time when bo was used in every example, he used Zultar later. I'd be very careful using this argument. And I think you would be careful too.

This post is fascinating

[DemonRHK]

It was the "in most scenarios going to be bad or misguided town" that gave me flashbacks.

I mean how often, without diving into math which I don't have the patience or gumption to do currently, do you find single vote wagon voters to be scum D1?

[Vecna]

drunkposting time?

drunkposting time!

(ama)

How does it feel to roll mafia and get caught instantly?

Give it to me baby

[BunnyGo]

Have you considered accepting ghesus ghrist as your Lord and Savior?

If I am to become a born-again anything, it'd have to be something much more fun.

Born-again French nationalist, perhaps

Born again is right, it's been like 200 years since they had something to be proud of


P.S. VECNA IS ONLINE AND NOT POSTING FIRE FIRE FIRE!

Who is Yonni and why are they +1ing this tripe?

[Durga]

##vote celaph

Glad that the tunnel on me continues. Rather curious to see what you do with +1s unfortunately banned.

Hmmm. Why is celaph so angry about what's most likely a joke vote based on last game

[BunnyGo]

Hello lovely town people and Ghug.

I have a new rule for this game. If I make it to day 2 I will lead a wagon on someone who wasted their vote D1. So if you’re town, don’t waste your votes. TIA

##votePresidentEden

Who was your secret guest? Did they show up?

[Vecna]

Woooow Tom how could you do that to Vecna

what did he do to me?

[aarodactyl]

##vote celaph

Glad that the tunnel on me continues. Rather curious to see what you do with +1s unfortunately banned.

Hmmm. Why is celaph so angry about what's most likely a joke vote based on last game

Does this read as angry to you? This seems pretty normal for celaph's tone from last game

[ghug]

It was the "in most scenarios going to be bad or misguided town" that gave me flashbacks.

I mean how often, without diving into math which I don't have the patience or gumption to do currently, do you find single vote wagon voters to be scum D1?

Last game there were two scum on one or two vote wagons D1, and that was with scum on the black.

[President Eden]

Last game:

VOTING

There are two types of voting within this game: collective voting to execute perceived Mafia in Day phases, and Mafia faction actions.

Daykill vote: The first type of voting is for all players during the day, in which you vote for whom you intend to kill. Notate this vote with a pair of hash symbols before your intended vote target (e.g., ##VOTE bo_sox48).
You do not need to spell out your intended target's username fully; as long as the GM can understand who you're referencing. However, if there is a player that the bot does not quite understand without being spelled out in full, it would be helpful for everyone if you could spell their name out in full when voting for them. If in doubt, spell it out!
In the event of a tie during a Daykill vote, no one shall be killed.

##GM NOTE
On this 'Murican Thanksgiving... we have a replacement.
Jamiet99uk has replaced bo_sox48

JAMIET99UK has DIED. He was a ROLEBLOCKER of the EDEN LOYALISTS.

This game:

VOTING

There are three types of voting within this game: collective voting to execute perceived Mafia in Day phases, collective voting to end a Day or Night phase, and Mafia voting to kill town members in Night phases.

“Day Kill” vote: The first level of voting is for whom you intend to kill. Notate this vote with a pair of hash symbols before your intended vote target. (e.g., ##VOTE VECNA) You do not need to spell out your intended target's username fully; as long as the GM can understand who you're referencing. In the event of a tie during an execution vote, no one shall be killed.

##VOTE Vecna

If you disagree with me you're not only wrong, you are also defying the wisdom of Tom, the god of this game. I'd hate to be you!

So, last game I was scum and feared that you'd accidentally slipped and singled out bo. But then I went back and saw that in at least one recent game he'd been the example given for all the votes. So I didn't bring it up (unlike the pressure I put on Chaqa and Jimbo for things I thought I saw).

But this seems a stretch to me. Tom isn't known for slips like this. And unlike last time when bo was used in every example, he used Zultar later. I'd be very careful using this argument. And I think you would be careful too.

[Durga]

Woooow Tom how could you do that to Vecna

what did he do to me?

Revealed you in OP

[Vecna]

I think there might be too much booze in my future for me to solve this game for ye laddies on day1

[Bonatogether]

Glad that the tunnel on me continues. Rather curious to see what you do with +1s unfortunately banned.

Hmmm. Why is celaph so angry about what's most likely a joke vote based on last game

Does this read as angry to you? This seems pretty normal for celaph's tone from last game

Yeah, seems like him.

[BunnyGo]

drunkposting time?

drunkposting time!

(ama)

What is your native language?

[BunnyGo]

drunkposting time?

drunkposting time!

(ama)

Why did Tom Bomb use your name in the rules?

[President Eden]

Town vibes from Bunny already

What. I only get old man past his bedtime vibes.

[Durga]

Glad that the tunnel on me continues. Rather curious to see what you do with +1s unfortunately banned.

Hmmm. Why is celaph so angry about what's most likely a joke vote based on last game

Does this read as angry to you? This seems pretty normal for celaph's tone from last game

OMG all three of you are playing again?? I'm so happy.

Also, is it? It sounds bothered