M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Chaqa]

Bed now

[bozotheclown]

VCA has been pointing at kgray or Bozo.

My gut tells me Bozo more than kgray.

Ghug is probably town.

Aero is the wildcard for me. I don’t have a solid handle on him since I largely go off VCA and meta and I haven’t played with him bfore

I guess I already know the answer to this, but I'd like you to confirm that by "VCA points to kgray" you mean that you think it's likely that I got the teacon wagon going but then did a suspicious-looking switch off of him and onto my other scum teammate and then finally left my vote on town when it was still possible that teacon would be killed and I'd lose all the credit I could have gotten for busing him. And please also consider Flum's opinion on this - I'm not asking you to sheep him, but just think about what he said about that.

You can just +1 this post if you really think I'd do that as scum.

What about your VCA about me D1:

Both?

I think Jamie's town and is tunneling. Damo joining it was super scummy, and so was the way he left. I feel like Vecna should have known better, and I'm not entirely sure why he went back to Hamilton. Brain is hard for me to sort but I'm leaning scum. I have no thoughts on yoyo's alignment. Bona's vote/explanation seems pretty opportunistic.

I think youre vastly underestimating the amount of history some people here have with Bozo.

Okay but teacon joining bozo on Jamie's wagon is the most compelling thing I've seen to townread someone so far this game. I just don't see scum teammates doing that (even if Jamie is scum and it was a bus).

[bozotheclown]

I take back everything good I've ever said about your end of game solving skills if you're town. This is garbage.

##vote bozo

The tone of this post make me scum read you more than town read you.

lmao so now you care about tone... When it's convenient for you to push a miskill. But when it's a reason to townread someone, you'll ignore it.

Cool bozo.

If I were scum, why do you think I would try to push a mis-kill of you?

[Chaqa]

The downside of this phase of the game... I feel like we all have our own opinions on who it is and there's little to discuss.

I want to flip Bozo or kgray, and if we don't win, flip the other.

[President Eden]

DAY 9 VOTE COUNT UPDATE THE zTH: I ACTUALLY DID ONE BEFORE EOD EDITION[/]u]

bozotheclown (2): Chaqa, kgray
aarodactyl (1): ghug
kgray (1): bozotheclown

NOT VOTING (1): aarodactyl

Currently bozotheclown is gonna get done good at the end of Day 9 in approximately 15h15m.

[President Eden]

Fuck my life.

DAY 9 VOTE COUNT UPDATE THE zTH: I ACTUALLY DID ONE BEFORE EOD EDITION

bozotheclown (2): Chaqa, kgray
aarodactyl (1): ghug
kgray (1): bozotheclown

NOT VOTING (1): aarodactyl

Currently bozotheclown is gonna get done good at the end of Day 9 in approximately 15h15m.

[ghug]

God damnit, aaro's actually going to win this game, isn't he?

[Chaqa]

God damnit, aaro's actually going to win this game, isn't he?

You don’t think it’s Bozo or kgray?

Flum seemed to think it’s Bozo. I think it’s one of those two.

[ghug]

God damnit, aaro's actually going to win this game, isn't he?

You don’t think it’s Bozo or kgray?

Flum seemed to think it’s Bozo. I think it’s one of those two.

How do you not fucking know I think it's aaro by now, Chaqa?

Kgray is the towniest player alive. Bozo is my next bet if I'm wrong on aaro.

[bozotheclown]

God damnit, aaro's actually going to win this game, isn't he?

You don’t think it’s Bozo or kgray?

Flum seemed to think it’s Bozo. I think it’s one of those two.

How do you not fucking know I think it's aaro by now, Chaqa?

Kgray is the towniest player alive. Bozo is my next bet if I'm wrong on aaro.

You shouldn't underestimate kgray.

[bozotheclown]

I reviewed D1, now that we know the alignment of the majority of players. In the first 19.5 hours of D1, no confirmed scum voted for any other confirmed scum (BunnyGo voted for Chaqa, Jamie and Yoyoyozo voted for me). 2.5 hours before EOD, all confirmed scum were voting for town (from my perspective), and there were a number of 2 vote wagons, none of which were confirmed scum, when teacon voted for Jamie, making him a 2 vote wagon. Then BunnyGo voted for teacon, making him a 2 vote wagon. Jamie voted for Yoyoyozo for 20 minutes, but that was the extent of confirmed scum voting for confirmed scum D1. So, although there were some distancing votes, it does not appear there were any hard busses.

kgray placed a third vote for teacon when there were already 3 and 4 vote wagons on town, so I can see that as a distancing vote as well. I can also see kgray trying to save teacon later when Vecna and Balki gave her an excuse to move her vote.

[bozotheclown]

Chaqa hard bussing teacon D1 EOD would be different than what the other scum were doing, and I reviewed Chaqa's scum games and could not find any example of him doing something like that.

[bozotheclown]

For ghug to be scum, he would have had to only vote for town D1 (he voted for kgray briefly), which would probably be a first for him, so he is likely town.

[bozotheclown]

On D2 kgray came up with reasons to scum read and vote for 3 different town that were potential counter wagons to her when she was a significant wagon, while she never voted for Hamilton despite scum reading him as well. I suspect kgray was keeping the option of voting for Hamilton available for EOD in case it came down to her vs. Hamilton, as it was at different times during the day. I know she argued against my wagon D2, but Jamie and damo started my wagon, and Yoyoyozo joined it at some point as well, so it was already heavily represented by scum.

[bozotheclown]

damo voting for me after Jamie did was odd, but if he was distancing from kgray, he could have been trying to slow the momentum on her wagon. If so, it worked, as I was up to 6 votes at a time that kgray only had 3.

[bozotheclown]

On D5, whoever the last scum is was bussing damo. I am somewhat concerned that ghug was trying to make players look bad by getting them to vote for celaph while getting credit for switching back to damo. It certainly led to the mis-kill of Maniac.

[bozotheclown]

In M61, Durga subbed out D1 and was scum, and in M59, Chaqa subbed out D1 and was scum, so recent history suggests scum are more likely to leave the game D1. It is also not an "out-of-game" reason, since bo_sox was in the game.

That makes a lot of sense. Better than the rest of the subjective d1 crapshoot elimination. ##vote jamiet

Yuck. This doesn't feel like town!teacon from last game at all.

Can you tell me why you did not think teacon would say this as town?

[dargorygel]

On the Ninth Day of Mafia, the voters gave to thee:

bozotheclown (2): Chaqa, kgray
aarodactyl (1): ghug
kgray (1): bozo

Not giving presents yet: aaro

Presently getting a lump of coal: bozo

10 hours and 22 minutes remain

[Chaqa]

God damnit, aaro's actually going to win this game, isn't he?

You don’t think it’s Bozo or kgray?

Flum seemed to think it’s Bozo. I think it’s one of those two.

How do you not fucking know I think it's aaro by now, Chaqa?

Kgray is the towniest player alive. Bozo is my next bet if I'm wrong on aaro.

It just confuses me how we can have wildly different reads on the situation.

[bozotheclown]

You don’t think it’s Bozo or kgray?

Flum seemed to think it’s Bozo. I think it’s one of those two.

How do you not fucking know I think it's aaro by now, Chaqa?

Kgray is the towniest player alive. Bozo is my next bet if I'm wrong on aaro.

It just confuses me how we can have wildly different reads on the situation.

How does VCA make you think I am scum?