M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[celaph]

I have a rather similar feeling to ghug in that everyone feels towny to some degree. For some reason my gut says that it's not Maniac right now, but I'm not loving a Bona vote either.

[kgray]

I'd almost put Bona in the "too scummy to be scum" category except that isn't a thing.

1. As far as voting goes he's avoided making meaningful votes all game until yesterday where it was scum vs. town and he passionately defended scum
2. He always goes for walks end of day to avoid meaningful votes
3. He +1s players throwing shade at each other without really sharing his own opinion.
4. His two only two analysis posts were big wagon analysis posts after eod1 + eod2. I think those were faked and I'd think he's go over them again after more scum flips.
5. He's always joking about being final scum and doesn't care, similar to how damo just didn't care
6. He made a very forced townslip calling Jamiet a goon.

Ehh i think he's the best shot, sorry Bona!

He wasn't passionately defending damo, he didn't even mention a read on damo. He was just passionately attacking celaph.

[kgray]

I know everyone thinks scum decided to bus like crazy, but I still don't see scum!Flum grilling Jamie for dropping his pressure on yoyo *and* setting up a scenario to cause yoyo to panic after Durga's claim.

[aarodactyl]

I’ve been thinking a lot about this and I also don’t feel good about voting for either maniac or Bona. I think flipping them still gives good info but I doubt either are scum. My biggest reason to townread Bona is that he didn’t vote with any of the scum D1 and D2 and that seems like too obvious. I feel like that much distancing is too strong of a signal and the scum were probably too smart for that. That argument only applies to maniac for D1 so I guess I’d feel better about that vote.

I think my vote is still on HR and I think we should make sure we do that in the next one or two DKs but I’ll join the ##vote maniac wagon for today.

[Chaqa]

I’ve been thinking a lot about this and I also don’t feel good about voting for either maniac or Bona. I think flipping them still gives good info but I doubt either are scum. My biggest reason to townread Bona is that he didn’t vote with any of the scum D1 and D2 and that seems like too obvious. I feel like that much distancing is too strong of a signal and the scum were probably too smart for that. That argument only applies to maniac for D1 so I guess I’d feel better about that vote.

I think my vote is still on HR and I think we should make sure we do that in the next one or two DKs but I’ll join the ##vote maniac wagon for today.

[dargorygel]

An even more serious Vote Count
<insert LOUDER majestic music here>

MANIAC (5): Balki, celaph, HR, Bona, aarodactyl
Bonatogether (3): Flum, Chaqa, Tom
Fluminator (2): bozo, ghug
aarodactyl (1): Maniac
ghug (1): kgray

At present, Maniac heading towards a finish.

Around 3 hours and 34 minutes left in this day.

[Bonatogether]

I'd almost put Bona in the "too scummy to be scum" category except that isn't a thing.

1. As far as voting goes he's avoided making meaningful votes all game until yesterday where it was scum vs. town and he passionately defended scum
2. He always goes for walks end of day to avoid meaningful votes
3. He +1s players throwing shade at each other without really sharing his own opinion.
4. His two only two analysis posts were big wagon analysis posts after eod1 + eod2. I think those were faked and I'd think he's go over them again after more scum flips.
5. He's always joking about being final scum and doesn't care, similar to how damo just didn't care
6. He made a very forced townslip calling Jamiet a goon.

Ehh i think he's the best shot, sorry Bona!

He wasn't passionately defending damo, he didn't even mention a read on damo. He was just passionately attacking celaph.

For what it's worth, I was soft townreading damo.

[aarodactyl]

I’ve been thinking a lot about this and I also don’t feel good about voting for either maniac or Bona. I think flipping them still gives good info but I doubt either are scum. My biggest reason to townread Bona is that he didn’t vote with any of the scum D1 and D2 and that seems like too obvious. I feel like that much distancing is too strong of a signal and the scum were probably too smart for that. That argument only applies to maniac for D1 so I guess I’d feel better about that vote.

I think my vote is still on HR and I think we should make sure we do that in the next one or two DKs but I’ll join the ##vote maniac wagon for today.

What’s the issue with this?

[ghug]

I’ve been thinking a lot about this and I also don’t feel good about voting for either maniac or Bona. I think flipping them still gives good info but I doubt either are scum. My biggest reason to townread Bona is that he didn’t vote with any of the scum D1 and D2 and that seems like too obvious. I feel like that much distancing is too strong of a signal and the scum were probably too smart for that. That argument only applies to maniac for D1 so I guess I’d feel better about that vote.

I think my vote is still on HR and I think we should make sure we do that in the next one or two DKs but I’ll join the ##vote maniac wagon for today.

What’s the issue with this?

It's not Among Us or Chipotle.

[ghug]

I'm going back to ##VOTE Tom. I think he has the best chance of flipping today.

[Bonatogether]

I'd almost put Bona in the "too scummy to be scum" category except that isn't a thing.

1. As far as voting goes he's avoided making meaningful votes all game until yesterday where it was scum vs. town and he passionately defended scum
2. He always goes for walks end of day to avoid meaningful votes
3. He +1s players throwing shade at each other without really sharing his own opinion.
4. His two only two analysis posts were big wagon analysis posts after eod1 + eod2. I think those were faked and I'd think he's go over them again after more scum flips.
5. He's always joking about being final scum and doesn't care, similar to how damo just didn't care
6. He made a very forced townslip calling Jamiet a goon.

Ehh i think he's the best shot, sorry Bona!

1. How do you know it was scum vs town? celaph is scum too
2. That was twice, and when I missed it for dinner, I can't quite tell my parents that I'm going to be 20 minutes late for dinner.
3. I +1 them because I agree with them...? I don't see how this makes me scum.
4. How can I fake a wagon post? But sure, I'll go back over those.
5. A joke's a joke, but if I was scum you bet I'd be buckling up.
6. I've gone over this before, so I don't see why I need to again.

[Chaqa]

I’ve been thinking a lot about this and I also don’t feel good about voting for either maniac or Bona. I think flipping them still gives good info but I doubt either are scum. My biggest reason to townread Bona is that he didn’t vote with any of the scum D1 and D2 and that seems like too obvious. I feel like that much distancing is too strong of a signal and the scum were probably too smart for that. That argument only applies to maniac for D1 so I guess I’d feel better about that vote.

I think my vote is still on HR and I think we should make sure we do that in the next one or two DKs but I’ll join the ##vote maniac wagon for today.

What’s the issue with this?

My read on it was: "I don't think it's Bona or Maniac. Flipping them gives info" (??? - there's only one scum left, how do we get info?). Then the bit about voting for HR, when he's the only Priest claimant AFAIK.

[ghug]

Aaro, we'd probably kill HR if you claimed priest.

Just saying.

[aarodactyl]

What’s the issue with this?

My read on it was: "I don't think it's Bona or Maniac. Flipping them gives info" (??? - there's only one scum left, how do we get info?). Then the bit about voting for HR, when he's the only Priest claimant AFAIK.

Ok. I need to reread Balki’s posts because I only saw references to the retracting but not the actual post. If Balki actually retracted, then of course I wouldn’t want to vote HR.

There were several maniac wagons early game. Flipping him town would rule out potentially bussing arguments.

[Bonatogether]

This is just here so you can go back up to it.

Going back over this for flum:

p1 is teacon defending a fellow scum.

I still believe that p2 is the set up to get town to not do as much VCA

On his thoughts about the Maniac wagon:
-brain is NAI for starting (actually town)
-celaph and riveria sus (90% sure scum and town)
-says ND townread him (my thoughts on this haven't changed)
-damo scum (which he was)

I think this makes celaph look worse, since it links celaph and rdr's alignments. Teacon knew that rdr was town, so this is an attempt for when rdr dies to make celaph look good.

On his thoughts about the ND wagon:
-durga and kgray NAI for starting (town and prob town)
-ghug sus (probably town. ghug is hard for me to read, but at this point I can only hard scumread one person)
-kgray, aaro, and jamie's votes consistant (prob town, prob town, and scum)
-brain sus (town)
-says HB is either town or noob scum (idek about HB at this point. This is defending him, so I'd say this make him look worse)

He says everyone is NAI for starting a wagon, so I don't know what to say there. He has a pattern of scumreading town people if they're in a group by themselves, call it NAI if it's a group of town, and townread groups of people with one scum in them. I think kgray, ghug, and aaro are town based on this.

On his thoughts about his own wagon:
-hedges
-townreads Flum, but then pokes him (makes hi
-scumreads bunny
-calls Balki/Chaqa/Vash "late and lazy" (vash is town, but i think that if it's not celaph, by some chance, either balki or chaqa are scum)
-scumreads HR (makes him look a little better. idk if he's scum or town, though)

I don't think the stuff here means as much as the stuff from the other wagons, since he's actively trying to look town here.

-scumreads Maniac (maybe a bus? I don't think so, but I could be convinced either way)
-thinks people townread him, tries to appear like that

We did not see post 3/3 from brain

[Maniac]

I don't think the last one is flum despite his 'slip'. Celaph is a strong town read so I can understand his saying d5 was scum v town.

I'm not sure about Bona, but obv I know my alignment, so if he has to be the second wagon, so be it.

I might not be on later. I had tried to find time to have a bit of a re-read today and leave you with some some nuggets if I die. But no one reads what dead people say anyway and I didn't have time.

Just make sure someone looks at Chaqa.

##vote Bona

[President Eden]

Oh no!!!!!!!!! You didn't divert power back to Eden, so now hyperlinks are broken again!!!!!!!!

DAY6 VOTE COUNT THE xTH: DARG DOES ALL THE HARD WORK WHILE I GET PAID FOR NOTHIN EDITION

Maniac (5): Balki Bartokomous, celaph, Hellenic Riot, Bonatogether, aarodactyl
Bonatogether (4): Fluminator, Chaqa, Tom Bombadil, Maniac
Fluminator (1): bozotheclown
ghug (1): kgray
Tom Bombadil (1): ghug

Currently Maniac is set to be zapped free of charge at the end of Day 6 in 01h00m.

[ghug]

##VOTE Maniac I s'pose.

[Balki Bartokomous]

If Maniac is scum, how come nobody’s trying to save him?

[kgray]

Yeah I don’t know about this. But ##vote maniac is fine I guess.