M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[kgray]

You guys, damo has been shady this whole game and is playing his scum game to a T.

His blending in early, the weird vote/explanation for Maniac D1, him sitting by and *watching* TvT wagons when one of those was his biggest townread and one he'd barely mentioned, despite his apparent regret for not voting to save ND D1. Laying low and watching is classic scum!damo. And claiming he'd jail ghug made no sense whatsoever.

Also his scumread of me has apparently not changed since D2, and town!damo's reads are all over the place.

Why would his scumread of you change after d2 when it’s entirely based on you saving scum D1?

That's my point though, town!damo's reads change on a whim. He doesn't stick to a read based on D1 VCA.

[Fluminator]

Assuming damo votes celaph it's 6-5
Our two votes make up the swing.

And which way are you planning on swinging?

I want to hear Balki's input first.

[kgray]

@HR you really think celaph is more likely scum than damo?

[President Eden]

DAY5 VOTE COUNT THE nTH: GET THE IMPOSTORS EDITION

damo666 (6): bozotheclown, kgray, aarodactyl, celaph, Chaqa, Maniac
celaph (4): Bonatogether, ghug, Hellenic Riot, Tom Bombadil
kgray (2): damo666, Balki Bartokomous
Bonatogether (1): Fluminator

Currently damo666 will get thrown into a pool of lava at the end of Day 5 in approximately 00h20m.


GAME HISTORY TO DATE
1. Jamiet99uk replaces bo_sox48 during Day 1.
2. ND the Townie is daykilled at the end of Day 1.
3. rdrivera2005 the Townie is nightkilled at the end of Night 1.
4. teacon7 the Goon is nightkilled at the end of Night 1.
5. brainbomb the Townie is daykilled at the end of Day 2.
6. Nephthys the Parity Cop is nightkilled at the end of Night 2.
7. Hamilton Brian the Townie is nightkilled at the end of Night 2.
8. Tom Bombadil replaces VashtaNeurotic during Day 3.
9. worcej the Jailer is modkilled during Day 3.
10. BunnyGo the Blackmailer is daykilled at the end of Day 3.
11. Durga is on her deathbed at the end of Night 3.
12. e.m.c^42 the Townie is nightkilled at the end of Night 3.
13. The EDEN LOYALIST Assassination is used during Night 3.
14. Jamiet99uk the Roleblocker is daykilled at the end of Day 4.
15. Durga the Tracker dies of her injuries at the end of Day 4.
16. Yoyoyozo the Coordinator is modkilled at the end of Night 4.
17. Vecna the Townie is nightkilled at the end of Night 4.

[celaph]

Celaph's sudden old notes thing is certainly reminding me of the way Hamilton Brian did that and got widely townread, I agree

His D1 comment got me to take them. Though I would probably do so differently in future games. To your early comment, honestly don't entirely remember why I didn't post them.

Why didn't you mention that you were taking notes at any point, or post what you had?

Why would I? I think everyone should take notes and that doing so is NAI. In most of my posts I just use the information from them to write up my comment.

[ghug]

You guys, damo has been shady this whole game and is playing his scum game to a T.

His blending in early, the weird vote/explanation for Maniac D1, him sitting by and *watching* TvT wagons when one of those was his biggest townread and one he'd barely mentioned, despite his apparent regret for not voting to save ND D1. Laying low and watching is classic scum!damo. And claiming he'd jail ghug made no sense whatsoever.

Also his scumread of me has apparently not changed since D2, and town!damo's reads are all over the place.

Whoa I'm a great jail target I'm town af

[Hellenic Riot]

@HR you really think celaph is more likely scum than damo?

Yes

[Balki Bartokomous]

Assuming damo votes celaph it's 6-5
Our two votes make up the swing.

And which way are you planning on swinging?

I want to hear Balki's input first.

I don’t know. I don’t like either.

Can someone make an alignment indicative argument to me? Most of the stuff I’ve read y’all say about each one just isn’t convincing.

[Fluminator]

Why are you so passive this game Balki.
Usually you're the one making arguments. Why are you so different this game?

[ghug]

You guys, damo has been shady this whole game and is playing his scum game to a T.

His blending in early, the weird vote/explanation for Maniac D1, him sitting by and *watching* TvT wagons when one of those was his biggest townread and one he'd barely mentioned, despite his apparent regret for not voting to save ND D1. Laying low and watching is classic scum!damo. And claiming he'd jail ghug made no sense whatsoever.

Also his scumread of me has apparently not changed since D2, and town!damo's reads are all over the place.

Why would his scumread of you change after d2 when it’s entirely based on you saving scum D1?

That's my point though, town!damo's reads change on a whim. He doesn't stick to a read based on D1 VCA.

You seemed to be leaning towards townreading him about a day ago. What changed today?

[kgray]

You guys, damo has been shady this whole game and is playing his scum game to a T.

His blending in early, the weird vote/explanation for Maniac D1, him sitting by and *watching* TvT wagons when one of those was his biggest townread and one he'd barely mentioned, despite his apparent regret for not voting to save ND D1. Laying low and watching is classic scum!damo. And claiming he'd jail ghug made no sense whatsoever.

Also his scumread of me has apparently not changed since D2, and town!damo's reads are all over the place.

Whoa I'm a great jail target I'm town af

Damo didn't think so. He made literally one comment listing you as a slight townread on *D2* (so doesn't explain a D1 jail) and includes you in a list of would-votes N2.

[kgray]

@HR you really think celaph is more likely scum than damo?

Yes

Well it's not the first time we disagreed this game

[Hellenic Riot]

The biggest issue I have with the damo wagon now is that I cannot imagine a partner for him here (Bozo's wild theory aside), and the fact that the only person lifting a finger to try and really protect him is Bonatogether just doesn't add up to damo being scum. Are the scum really happy to just coast to a 10v1 scenario?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Can you please expand on these initial town reads? I don’t really understand why you have noticed those three specifically? How are they advancing the conversation? What do you see them doing that seems more likely to be a sincere scum hunt than a pretend one?

Sure.
Bunny made an effort early to incorporate us newer players in a non-antagonistic fashion. Asked aaro about his approach to the game to learn more about a player he didn't know. Shared a nice tracker bot that I had never heard of before.

No single message sticks out to me from Durga. Looking back at chat history lines like "Fuck I actually hate this. You're both dumb please move on." and "Flum has done something to compare him to anyone yet? What has he done?" seem to indicate a desire to push through a mess for actual info.

ND strikes me as a particularly antagonistic town. Someone who ultimately wants the truth though goes about it in a way that I find particularly poor. At least so far I don't feel that his tendency to be caustic to use emc's term comes from being scum.

I liked this post early from celaph.

[kgray]

Why would his scumread of you change after d2 when it’s entirely based on you saving scum D1?

That's my point though, town!damo's reads change on a whim. He doesn't stick to a read based on D1 VCA.

You seemed to be leaning towards townreading him about a day ago. What changed today?

I wasn't townreading him but he was doing more town!damo-type things, and I was mostly suspicious of people who started scumreading him *after* he was doing those things.

[Hellenic Riot]

That post you quoted is even more problematic Balki, because it shows that celaph did indeed post his early townreads: And there was no mention of Bona or Vecna in them at all.

[kgray]

The biggest issue I have with the damo wagon now is that I cannot imagine a partner for him here (Bozo's wild theory aside), and the fact that the only person lifting a finger to try and really protect him is Bonatogether just doesn't add up to damo being scum. Are the scum really happy to just coast to a 10v1 scenario?

What? All these people pushing celaph out of nowhere aren't lifting a finger to protect damo?

[kgray]

That post you quoted is even more problematic Balki, because it shows that celaph did indeed post his early townreads: And there was no mention of Bona or Vecna in them at all.

That was way before EoN1 though.

[Hellenic Riot]

The biggest issue I have with the damo wagon now is that I cannot imagine a partner for him here (Bozo's wild theory aside), and the fact that the only person lifting a finger to try and really protect him is Bonatogether just doesn't add up to damo being scum. Are the scum really happy to just coast to a 10v1 scenario?

What? All these people pushing celaph out of nowhere aren't lifting a finger to protect damo?

I'm pretty confident that neither myself nor Tom is damo's partner, which leaves Bona or ghug. I'd hardly characterise ghug as aggressively pushing celaph here either. Do you think damo is partners with Bona or ghug?

[Hellenic Riot]

In fact, who *do* you think is damo's partner?