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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#7701 Post by kgray » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:56 pm

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Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:51 pm
The argument that I, as scum with damo, would have any motivation whatsoever to shackle myself to him like that is one that I'm certainly all-ears to hear
I think it's totally possible. Look how townread scum!damo was last game. It's not dangerous to shackle yourself to him. And most of the scum "strategy" last game was dominated by Chaqa and I tunneling each other. Why not do the opposite? Nobody would expect it, right? Because the default assumption is what you're arguing now.

And for the record, I wouldn't be too shocked if damo is town and you're scum. Your read of him is so unnatural from my POV that if he is town, then your read only makes sense if you already knew that.

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#7702 Post by ghug » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:56 pm

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Flum, HR, if either of you is town, you have to stop sucking.
Where do you disagree with my schpeel on HR?
"schpeel"

I think HR is kinda scummy at this point, but you're not doing much better, and y'all spending most of your time interacting with the game arguing in circles with each other doesn't reflect well on either of you.

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#7703 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:57 pm

No counter to what? I'm not interested in rehashing the exact same thing again and again, and I'm quite content to go down without a fight

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#7704 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:56 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:51 pm
The argument that I, as scum with damo, would have any motivation whatsoever to shackle myself to him like that is one that I'm certainly all-ears to hear
I think it's totally possible. Look how townread scum!damo was last game. It's not dangerous to shackle yourself to him. And most of the scum "strategy" last game was dominated by Chaqa and I tunneling each other. Why not do the opposite? Nobody would expect it, right? Because the default assumption is what you're arguing now.

And for the record, I wouldn't be too shocked if damo is town and you're scum. Your read of him is so unnatural from my POV that if he is town, then your read only makes sense if you already knew that.
I didn't read last game, so I'm afraid I have no idea how widely townread damo was by the end of the game. Shackling myself to a teammate who's being widely scumread whilst simultaneously bussing teacon takes some serious logic failures

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#7705 Post by kgray » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm

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Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 pm
The fact that it's taken until now, two days after people started scumreading me, for someone to suggest I'm scum *without* damo, after what happened last time I was scum, is certainly quite bizarre
I considered this N2, comparing you to scum!xorxes in a previous game who was buddying town!damo. I don't know what happened in your previous scum game.

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#7706 Post by Fluminator » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:59 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:56 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:51 pm
Flum, HR, if either of you is town, you have to stop sucking.
Where do you disagree with my schpeel on HR?
"schpeel"

I think HR is kinda scummy at this point, but you're not doing much better, and y'all spending most of your time interacting with the game arguing in circles with each other doesn't reflect well on either of you.
Well then tell me where I'm wrong so I stop wasting time.

HR is claiming all his absurd posts about damo being town was because I was sheeping him. Do you think it makes sense he'd do that based on this one post I made mentioning it?
Ok brain is officially a scumread now too.

Every other post from him today is him talking about how he tried to save teacon and it almost sounds jubilant and smug with how much he brings it up along with the excitement behind it.
It really feels he's going into his "I'm so crazy and whacky" meta to cover his tracks to get away with it and loving every minute it's working.
I feel like town brain would not be like this.

Brain, Brian, probably one of ghug/Vecna/Balki, probably a couple out of the pool of lurkers/new players/Maniac.
I'd put damo in there too but I'll trust HR's read on him for now and there's an abundance of scummy behaviour this game to go around.

Bunny is still kind of scummy too lol.

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#7707 Post by ghug » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:00 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 pm
The fact that it's taken until now, two days after people started scumreading me, for someone to suggest I'm scum *without* damo, after what happened last time I was scum, is certainly quite bizarre
I considered this N2, comparing you to scum!xorxes in a previous game who was buddying town!damo. I don't know what happened in your previous scum game.
He irrationally townread town emc for days and it led to us scumreading both of them and miskilling emc.

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#7708 Post by kgray » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:00 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:56 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:51 pm
The argument that I, as scum with damo, would have any motivation whatsoever to shackle myself to him like that is one that I'm certainly all-ears to hear
I think it's totally possible. Look how townread scum!damo was last game. It's not dangerous to shackle yourself to him. And most of the scum "strategy" last game was dominated by Chaqa and I tunneling each other. Why not do the opposite? Nobody would expect it, right? Because the default assumption is what you're arguing now.

And for the record, I wouldn't be too shocked if damo is town and you're scum. Your read of him is so unnatural from my POV that if he is town, then your read only makes sense if you already knew that.
I didn't read last game, so I'm afraid I have no idea how widely townread damo was by the end of the game. Shackling myself to a teammate who's being widely scumread whilst simultaneously bussing teacon takes some serious logic failures
Hmm. I didn't think damo was being wildly scumread at the time. I tried to get a wagon going on him D2 (emc was already there) and only Durga joined me.

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#7709 Post by ghug » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:00 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:59 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:56 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 pm


Where do you disagree with my schpeel on HR?
"schpeel"

I think HR is kinda scummy at this point, but you're not doing much better, and y'all spending most of your time interacting with the game arguing in circles with each other doesn't reflect well on either of you.
Well then tell me where I'm wrong so I stop wasting time.

HR is claiming all his absurd posts about damo being town was because I was sheeping him. Do you think it makes sense he'd do that based on this one post I made mentioning it?
Ok brain is officially a scumread now too.

Every other post from him today is him talking about how he tried to save teacon and it almost sounds jubilant and smug with how much he brings it up along with the excitement behind it.
It really feels he's going into his "I'm so crazy and whacky" meta to cover his tracks to get away with it and loving every minute it's working.
I feel like town brain would not be like this.

Brain, Brian, probably one of ghug/Vecna/Balki, probably a couple out of the pool of lurkers/new players/Maniac.
I'd put damo in there too but I'll trust HR's read on him for now and there's an abundance of scummy behaviour this game to go around.

Bunny is still kind of scummy too lol.
Maybe

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#7710 Post by kgray » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:01 pm

fwiw Flum, I was convinced HR was doing some sort of reaction test and was going to take back his strong townread of damo in his EoN2 reads.

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#7711 Post by kgray » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:04 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:00 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:54 pm
The fact that it's taken until now, two days after people started scumreading me, for someone to suggest I'm scum *without* damo, after what happened last time I was scum, is certainly quite bizarre
I considered this N2, comparing you to scum!xorxes in a previous game who was buddying town!damo. I don't know what happened in your previous scum game.
He irrationally townread town emc for days and it led to us scumreading both of them and miskilling emc.
Well then if he's town and really thought damo was town, it seems like a pretty major mistake to do that same thing here.

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#7712 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:07 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:04 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:00 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm


I considered this N2, comparing you to scum!xorxes in a previous game who was buddying town!damo. I don't know what happened in your previous scum game.
He irrationally townread town emc for days and it led to us scumreading both of them and miskilling emc.
Well then if he's town and really thought damo was town, it seems like a pretty major mistake to do that same thing here.
Tbh half of it was wanting to see if I'd be able to get away with ever doing that again for next time I roll scum

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#7713 Post by kgray » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:09 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:07 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:04 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:00 pm


He irrationally townread town emc for days and it led to us scumreading both of them and miskilling emc.
Well then if he's town and really thought damo was town, it seems like a pretty major mistake to do that same thing here.
Tbh half of it was wanting to see if I'd be able to get away with ever doing that again for next time I roll scum
So your story is you, as a town PR, did something to draw scumreads to yourself and your strongest townread at the time just to see if you could get away with doing it later? :?

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#7714 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:10 pm

I shall spell it out for you, step by step, one final time:

- I townread damo and notice it got sheeped (by Flum)
- I decide to have some fun with this and see if it can carry on being sheeped, because it'll be useful info for future games
- It does continue, past a point at which I think it's reasonable to do so (again by Flum)
- I take it to absolutely absurd extremes, Flum yet again continues
- I scumread Flum because the amount of trust he was willing to put into that one read made no sense whatsoever
- We discuss the same thing over and over again

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#7715 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:11 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:09 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:07 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:04 pm


Well then if he's town and really thought damo was town, it seems like a pretty major mistake to do that same thing here.
Tbh half of it was wanting to see if I'd be able to get away with ever doing that again for next time I roll scum
So your story is you, as a town PR, did something to draw scumreads to yourself and your strongest townread at the time just to see if you could get away with doing it later? :?
Don't worry, I'm probably not actually the Priest

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#7716 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:12 pm

And now that I've done that, you guys can go and see where Flum just slipped.


Because during today's discussion of it, he said he thought I was softing an inno on damo. Whereas a few days ago, he said I thought I had a PR Read on Damo and that it was damo softing the inno on HB


So he's now suggesting that he thought I was softing an inno on someone he thought was the cop

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#7717 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:13 pm

Game, set, match

See ya'll later

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#7718 Post by ghug » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:14 pm

Let's all claim priest first thing tomorrow and vote HR.

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#7719 Post by Fluminator » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:15 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:10 pm
I shall spell it out for you, step by step, one final time:

- I townread damo and notice it got sheeped (by Flum)
- I decide to have some fun with this and see if it can carry on being sheeped, because it'll be useful info for future games
- It does continue, past a point at which I think it's reasonable to do so (again by Flum)
- I take it to absolutely absurd extremes, Flum yet again continues
- I scumread Flum because the amount of trust he was willing to put into that one read made no sense whatsoever
- We discuss the same thing over and over again
I direct everyone to my post last page so you can see how this doesn't add up to what really happened. Not even close

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#7720 Post by Fluminator » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:16 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:12 pm
And now that I've done that, you guys can go and see where Flum just slipped.


Because during today's discussion of it, he said he thought I was softing an inno on damo. Whereas a few days ago, he said I thought I had a PR Read on Damo and that it was damo softing the inno on HB


So he's now suggesting that he thought I was softing an inno on someone he thought was the cop
Town HR is not this stupid

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