Why are you assuming she saw anything at all, though? All she said was that she wasn't RB'd - Hardly suggesting she had another guiltyaarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:41 amIn hindsight, it was probably reaction testing. But if she saw someone that wasn't jamie, it was probably the priest.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 amWhy would she necessarily know who the priest is?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:31 am
So essentially, Durga likely knows the priest, but of course shouldn't tell us. However, Durga was never going to learn anything last night anyways.
So the new info we have is that there's probably not a roleblocker, and that we have a priest. Also mafia used up their assassination when they didn't have to.
So we're killing Jamie today, and then durga will die EOD and mafia will likely kill Tom. Even though Tom will probably get last rites, if we assume they're dead (since it doesn't really matter for number that they get the extra day phase), we'll be at 14 total players with 3 mafia. That means we have 4 miskills lefts? Unless we get a 5th if priest stays in and gets a lucky save after the 4th miskill?
The priest helped us last night in getting us a track (though I suspect Vecna may be right that she was reaction testing; why he'd say as much or out his PR reads I don't understand). The priest might help us marginally in giving us access to players for an extra day and slightly better numbers for a day, but when it would really help us again is MILO or KILO, when it might buy us an extra day, or at least prevents the scrim from outing themselves by voting together.
Vecna, are you becoming brainbomb?
M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
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My impression is that if she's roleblocked, she gets the same result as if the person she's visiting didn't preform an action. So if she know she wasn't roleblocked, it means she saw someone do a visit. However, if she was reaction testing, we don't know anything.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 amBut it's much more likely she tracked a random person not visiting than that she successfully hit the priest.aarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:41 amIn hindsight, it was probably reaction testing. But if she saw someone that wasn't jamie, it was probably the priest.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 am
Why would she necessarily know who the priest is?
The priest helped us last night in getting us a track (though I suspect Vecna may be right that she was reaction testing; why he'd say as much or out his PR reads I don't understand). The priest might help us marginally in giving us access to players for an extra day and slightly better numbers for a day, but when it would really help us again is MILO or KILO, when it might buy us an extra day, or at least prevents the scrim from outing themselves by voting together.
Vecna, are you becoming brainbomb?
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Im sure the scum had not noticed yet that Bozo is playing a timid and under the radar game, Ghug.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 amWhy would she necessarily know who the priest is?aarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:31 amSo essentially, Durga likely knows the priest, but of course shouldn't tell us. However, Durga was never going to learn anything last night anyways.Fluminator wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:19 amSo if the assassin kill isn't trackable, then they clearly had Jamiet do the normal nightkill, so there was nothing new durga could have captured other than the priest.
So the new info we have is that there's probably not a roleblocker, and that we have a priest. Also mafia used up their assassination when they didn't have to.
So we're killing Jamie today, and then durga will die EOD and mafia will likely kill Tom. Even though Tom will probably get last rites, if we assume they're dead (since it doesn't really matter for number that they get the extra day phase), we'll be at 14 total players with 3 mafia. That means we have 4 miskills lefts? Unless we get a 5th if priest stays in and gets a lucky save after the 4th miskill?
The priest helped us last night in getting us a track (though I suspect Vecna may be right that she was reaction testing; why he'd say as much or out his PR reads I don't understand). The priest might help us marginally in giving us access to players for an extra day and slightly better numbers for a day, but when it would really help us again is MILO or KILO, when it might buy us an extra day, or at least prevents the scrim from outing themselves by voting together.
Vecna, are you becoming brainbomb?
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
theres diffirent outputs for no result and cancelled. Lucky for us, because any result will then be usefullaarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:44 amMy impression is that if she's roleblocked, she gets the same result as if the person she's visiting didn't preform an action. So if she know she wasn't roleblocked, it means she saw someone do a visit. However, if she was reaction testing, we don't know anything.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 amBut it's much more likely she tracked a random person not visiting than that she successfully hit the priest.aarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:41 am
In hindsight, it was probably reaction testing. But if she saw someone that wasn't jamie, it was probably the priest.
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This setup is so confusing tbh.
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I just spent like 3 hours on the phone with the ISP and troubleshooting just to figure out the modem has a bad ethernet port.
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Huh. I guess rule of three is correct and this was the third time I'm wrong about the setup in a row. For some reason I thought the tracker's action got cancelled if they got no results. that's not true, so you're right. Durga probably knows nothing about roles, but didn't have anything good to learn anyways.Vecna wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 amtheres diffirent outputs for no result and cancelled. Lucky for us, because any result will then be usefullaarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:44 amMy impression is that if she's roleblocked, she gets the same result as if the person she's visiting didn't preform an action. So if she know she wasn't roleblocked, it means she saw someone do a visit. However, if she was reaction testing, we don't know anything.
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
learning that someone is not the roleblocker could still prove useful in the future
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Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
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Meaning you don't want townclears?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 amIndeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
What is Vecna even saying?
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I'm confused too. It's not even a townclear.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 amMeaning you don't want townclears?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 amIndeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
What is Vecna even saying?
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Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tomghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 amMeaning you don't want townclears?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 amIndeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
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How is proving someone isn’t the roleblocker town clear them? There might not even be one lmaoHellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 amMeaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tomghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 amMeaning you don't want townclears?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am
Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
What is Vecna even saying?
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yeah, this is all a mess. All it's going to do is tell mafia who isn't priest.Yoyoyozo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:44 amHow is proving someone isn’t the roleblocker town clear them? There might not even be one lmaoHellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 amMeaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
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But that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 amMeaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tomghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 amMeaning you don't want townclears?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:10 am
Indeed, it's nice to direct the scum kill for them after Tom dies tonight
What is Vecna even saying?
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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
Is narrowing down a hypothetical roleblocker good enough for town that it's worth narrowing down priest for mafia?ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:48 amBut that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 amMeaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!
I think so, yes.aarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:49 amIs narrowing down a hypothetical roleblocker good enough for town that it's worth narrowing down priest for mafia?ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:48 amBut that's good because it means they're killing someone Durga happened to watch, probably fairly scumread, instead of someone thru want to kill for their own reasons?Hellenic Riot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:40 am
Meaning that they'll probably just die the night after Tom
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I still don't get how we're narrowing down a roleblocker though.ghug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 amI think so, yes.aarodactyl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:49 amIs narrowing down a hypothetical roleblocker good enough for town that it's worth narrowing down priest for mafia?
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Yeah, aaro is correct actually, only a visit to someone else but durga is a relevant result.
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