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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#6861 Post by Vecna » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:08 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:05 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:53 pm
Average with 10 participating:

Durga 1.90
Tom 3.00
emc 3.90
kgray 6.60
aarodactyl 6.85
ghug 8.55
HR 9.70
Fluminator 9.90
bozo 9.95
Chaqa 10.20
Yoyoyozo 10.35
celaph 10.45
Vecna 10.55
Balki 11.60
Maniac 12.10
damo 13.25
Bona 14.15
Jamie 18.00
is this corrected for people putting themselves at 1?
I think it's fine to include everyone putting themselves at 1 because it essentially just moves all the lurkers towards the scummy side.
I like this chap

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#6862 Post by kgray » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:09 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:05 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:56 pm
I really think its in your head and that youre letting the fear of getting pocketed somehow influence your judgement.
This is totally, 100% possible.

I hesitate because you've made it very clear in the past that you thought I was convincing as scum - you called me "scary" once 8-)

But I do think the difference in my play this game compared to last game is pretty significant. So maybe it's true that you just needed to see more examples of me either way and now you can read me better.
How many scum games do you think it will take before people stop shading your scum play and go back to thinking you're the evilest thing since sliced wjessop?
I don't know anything about wjessop, but hopefully it only takes one more scum game and I can go back to being great at it 8-)

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#6863 Post by damo666 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:09 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:05 pm
I think the bot is broken.
Why? It looks ok to me
I think he was making a joke at bozo's expense.

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#6864 Post by ghug » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:09 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:05 pm
I think the bot is broken.
Why? It looks ok to me
Oh, I was looking at the Night 3 page rather than the game status page and the posting statistics were way out of date

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#6865 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:10 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:53 pm
Average with 10 participating:

Durga 1.90
Tom 3.00
emc 3.90
kgray 6.60
aarodactyl 6.85
ghug 8.55
HR 9.70
Fluminator 9.90
bozo 9.95
Chaqa 10.20
Yoyoyozo 10.35
celaph 10.45
Vecna 10.55
Balki 11.60
Maniac 12.10
damo 13.25
Bona 14.15
Jamie 18.00
is this corrected for people putting themselves at 1?
No, but if everyone participated it would be self correcting.

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#6866 Post by Vecna » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:05 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:56 pm
I really think its in your head and that youre letting the fear of getting pocketed somehow influence your judgement.
This is totally, 100% possible.

I hesitate because you've made it very clear in the past that you thought I was convincing as scum - you called me "scary" once 8-)

But I do think the difference in my play this game compared to last game is pretty significant. So maybe it's true that you just needed to see more examples of me either way and now you can read me better.
You also have a behavioral tendency that I have not yet see you do as scum. Maybe im just naive and you can learn and adapt, but it would be the most significant change in playstyle between two games ive ever seen in mafia

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#6867 Post by ghug » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:09 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:05 pm


This is totally, 100% possible.

I hesitate because you've made it very clear in the past that you thought I was convincing as scum - you called me "scary" once 8-)

But I do think the difference in my play this game compared to last game is pretty significant. So maybe it's true that you just needed to see more examples of me either way and now you can read me better.
How many scum games do you think it will take before people stop shading your scum play and go back to thinking you're the evilest thing since sliced wjessop?
I don't know anything about wjessop, but hopefully it only takes one more scum game and I can go back to being great at it 8-)
I mostly just picked him because "sliced wjessop" seemed to fit him better than anyone else.

He tried to roleblock me because I bussed him and then handed HR a 3P win when he could have won himself, so he was more evil in the traditional sense than the good at scum sense.

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#6868 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:53 pm
Average with 10 participating:

Durga 1.90
Tom 3.00
emc 3.90
kgray 6.60
aarodactyl 6.85
ghug 8.55
HR 9.70
Fluminator 9.90
bozo 9.95
Chaqa 10.20
Yoyoyozo 10.35
celaph 10.45
Vecna 10.55
Balki 11.60
Maniac 12.10
damo 13.25
Bona 14.15
Jamie 18.00
is this corrected for people putting themselves at 1?
Jamie is perfectly at 18, but Durga is not perfectly at 2, so unclear.
Jamie had Durga first.

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#6869 Post by Vecna » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:12 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:08 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:57 pm

Or you can just conclude that unless Durga or ghug were scum, Yoyo would never have put the effort in to catch-up in the game
How do you know ghug isn't scum?
He's not in the QT
stop stealing my jokes btw

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#6870 Post by Hellenic Riot » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:12 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:09 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm


How many scum games do you think it will take before people stop shading your scum play and go back to thinking you're the evilest thing since sliced wjessop?
I don't know anything about wjessop, but hopefully it only takes one more scum game and I can go back to being great at it 8-)
I mostly just picked him because "sliced wjessop" seemed to fit him better than anyone else.

He tried to roleblock me because I bussed him and then handed HR a 3P win when he could have won himself, so he was more evil in the traditional sense than the good at scum sense.
You never give me enough credit for tricking wjessop into not killing y2k and then tricking y2k into hammering himself :(

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#6871 Post by ghug » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 pm


is this corrected for people putting themselves at 1?
Jamie is perfectly at 18, but Durga is not perfectly at 2, so unclear.
Jamie had Durga first.
What is the purpose of this exercise? Do you expect it to give you any useful information?

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#6872 Post by kgray » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:10 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:53 pm
Average with 10 participating:

Durga 1.90
Tom 3.00
emc 3.90
kgray 6.60
aarodactyl 6.85
ghug 8.55
HR 9.70
Fluminator 9.90
bozo 9.95
Chaqa 10.20
Yoyoyozo 10.35
celaph 10.45
Vecna 10.55
Balki 11.60
Maniac 12.10
damo 13.25
Bona 14.15
Jamie 18.00
is this corrected for people putting themselves at 1?
No, but if everyone participated it would be self correcting.
Well I didn't include myself so I should be even more townread.

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#6873 Post by Hellenic Riot » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 pm
Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:01 pm


is this corrected for people putting themselves at 1?
Jamie is perfectly at 18, but Durga is not perfectly at 2, so unclear.
Jamie had Durga first.
Why on earth are you including Jamie in this

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#6874 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:14 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 pm


Jamie is perfectly at 18, but Durga is not perfectly at 2, so unclear.
Jamie had Durga first.
Why on earth are you including Jamie in this
I considered not including him, but since there is no way to exclude the other scum, I decided to leave him in.

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#6875 Post by Hellenic Riot » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:15 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:14 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm


Jamie had Durga first.
Why on earth are you including Jamie in this
I considered not including him, but since there is no way to exclude the other scum, I decided to leave him in.
There's a fairly significant difference between 100% confirmed mafia and unknown scum

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#6876 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:16 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:14 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm

Jamie had Durga first.
Why on earth are you including Jamie in this
I considered not including him, but since there is no way to exclude the other scum, I decided to leave him in.
Don't be silly. You know who they all are.


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#6878 Post by ghug » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:17 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:14 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm

Why on earth are you including Jamie in this
I considered not including him, but since there is no way to exclude the other scum, I decided to leave him in.
Don't be silly. You know who they all are.
Why won't you townclear me? :(

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#6879 Post by aarodactyl » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:17 pm

Vecna wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:12 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:08 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:06 pm


How do you know ghug isn't scum?
He's not in the QT
stop stealing my jokes btw
It seems like the same joke, but it's actually based on different lies, so I'd say it's a different joke. HR's statement is a lie because he does see ghug in the QT and when you say it, it's a lie because of the implicit assumption that you're in the QT.

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#6880 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:18 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:13 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:04 pm


Jamie is perfectly at 18, but Durga is not perfectly at 2, so unclear.
Jamie had Durga first.
What is the purpose of this exercise? Do you expect it to give you any useful information?
There have been positive results with these type of averages in the past. If nothing else, it gives you an idea of how widely scum read players are.

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