M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Hellenic Riot]

1: it was a discussion point because I wanted to see if people would pick up on it and see who they would mention. I think its quite obvious who my main candidate is for the shading with his point.

2: So you think scum would base their NK choice on a comment made by brainbomb? Without discussing it internally and finding their own reasoning? Also, no comment like that was made on Rdrivera, which was undoubtedly killed for similar reasoning.

And the people that are still in this game it applies to besides Bozo are -maybe- Damo and HR. From reading the scum QT lats game, I dont think Damo was involved in PR hunting too much? Ill leave that to you. From what I remember, I dont think Ghug actively hunts for PR's. I would obviously do it, but wouldve known better than to suspect Rdrivera of being a PR. Im not sure if Flum is meta-aware enough on Neph

I certainly do hunt for PR's, but in the case of Neph I've never played with him before (or at least not that I remember, Bozo will probably find one game from 3 years ago to slam me with now), so it'd be rather hard to PR-read him based on meta

Well, if you were scum, id predict you'd make the connection regardless, given current playstyles in the game and seeing how you'd know he was town

Certainly possible, but I'd deserve far more credit for my ingenious scumplay than just a meta-read if that were the case

[Chaqa]

Town
Durga
Tom
EMC
Flum
HR
Balki
Maniac
kgray

------- line of uncertainty -------
everyone else

Jamiet
Scum

everyone above the line is town as far as I can tell.

[Vecna]

look at us being all polite and friendly towards eachother.

Im surprised youre not one bit suspicious about me, HR

[Vecna]

Town
Durga
Tom
EMC
Flum
HR
Balki
Maniac
kgray

------- line of uncertainty -------
everyone else

Jamiet
Scum

everyone above the line is town as far as I can tell.

Why are flum and HR more clearly town than I am? Why are Maniac and Balki?

[Chaqa]

Town
Durga
Tom
EMC
Flum
HR
Balki
Maniac
kgray

------- line of uncertainty -------
everyone else

Jamiet
Scum

everyone above the line is town as far as I can tell.

Why are flum and HR more clearly town than I am? Why are Maniac and Balki?

Durga/Tom townclears.
EMC 99.9% townclear IMO

Flum, HR, Balki are the other teacon voters D1.

Maniac town through VCA I explained earlier.

Kgray just a solid townread.

Not super sure on anyone else yet.

[Hellenic Riot]

look at us being all polite and friendly towards eachother.

Im surprised youre not one bit suspicious about me, HR

When have I ever said I'm not suspicious of you? I don't recall townreading you at any point after all - I've just not had you as a top scumread at any point either

[damo666]

Damo can you answer my question?

I've been going through damo's iso for this game and the last two games. Just noticed this:

I have a scum durga tell which for obvious reasons I will not disclose, however she has not yet portrayed it, if she is does I will scream out loud her scumitudiness.

Has flum ever been scum?

This is a little odd to say considering my scum game left enough of an impression you posted this in M60

##vote Flum

Not getting fooled again

Iirc the M60 quote was referring to a similar ploy by a different player in that game.

[Vecna]

Town
Durga
Tom
EMC
Flum
HR
Balki
Maniac
kgray

------- line of uncertainty -------
everyone else

Jamiet
Scum

everyone above the line is town as far as I can tell.

Why are flum and HR more clearly town than I am? Why are Maniac and Balki?

Durga/Tom townclears.
EMC 99.9% townclear IMO

Flum, HR, Balki are the other teacon voters D1.

Maniac town through VCA I explained earlier.

Kgray just a solid townread.

Not super sure on anyone else yet.

And why couldnt scum be voting teacon? Bunny was

[celaph]

As per Bozo request

Damo
Durga
Tom
EMC
Ghug
Bozo
Kgray
Aaro
HR
Vecna
Chaqa
Yoyo
Maniac
Bona
Flum
Balki
Jamie

I'm impressed with my own ability to be so unremarkable that I didn't even make the list.

[celaph]

Some examples:

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

Im sure theres loads of other variations where they did bus maniac as well, but im tired of these colouring exercises.

One nit-picky point is that bozo is inconsistently colored in the first one.
On a more substantive note, in the message before this you say that an argument can be made that the scum team was voting for themselves (except Jamie). Do you think that argument is true? If so, why do you think that there is only one exception instead of 2 or 3? Would you say that flum flipping scum looks bad for bona and that bozo flipping scum looks bad for Yoyo? If you don't believe in this argument, then where are you going with bringing it up?

[damo666]

As per Bozo request

Damo
Durga
Tom
EMC


Ghug
Bozo
Kgray
Aaro
HR
Vecna

Chaqa
celaph
Yoyo
Maniac
Bona

Flum

Balki


Jamie

I'm impressed with my own ability to be so unremarkable that I didn't even make the list.

Sorry!

I've put you in between yoyo and Chaqa.

The only reason you're so low is Bunny flipping scum and the QT thing.

I've taken the opportunity to insert some gaps to indicate groupings. The order within the two biggest groups is somewhat arbitrary.

[Hellenic Riot]

<snip>

Seems Scummy to Me

Bona

Why do you scumread me?

Why is that read the only one you're interested in?

[celaph]

@balki, who are you scum reading right now besides Jamie?

[Vecna]

Some examples:

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

Im sure theres loads of other variations where they did bus maniac as well, but im tired of these colouring exercises.

One nit-picky point is that bozo is inconsistently colored in the first one.
On a more substantive note, in the message before this you say that an argument can be made that the scum team was voting for themselves (except Jamie). Do you think that argument is true? If so, why do you think that there is only one exception instead of 2 or 3? Would you say that flum flipping scum looks bad for bona and that bozo flipping scum looks bad for Yoyo? If you don't believe in this argument, then where are you going with bringing it up?

Its mainly a counter-argument to the way too many people that are still basing all their reads "this guy voted x day1". It are also scenarios that fit pretty well with the/my process of elimination.

Id say bozo flipping scum would make me more suspicious about some of the people voting teacon (flum and HR), and Bona or Celaph flipping scum looks bad for the other.

[ghug]

I can't tell if this is a joke?

Let's say it isn't.

Okay, so take 5 seconds to look at brain's ISO from the beginning of D2 and see for yourself

Oh that. I feel like that was a very legitimate conclusion to make when Neph made that post and then stopped being so when he explained. Why'd you not bring it up earlier if you thought that was why he was killed?

[e.m.c^42]

If we're following trend of scum being the people that I don't really notice and don't really mention, but faintly town-null on default of being lazy, then remaining scum would be in like, flum/Maniac/HR/yoyo lmao

Everyone else made some sort of gut read.

[e.m.c^42]

@Jamie what was it like having Bunny Balki and Bona on your team?

The B team.

Pity Bozo is obvtown really.

None of them posted anything to equal EMC's slash fic, that's for sure.

If we ever rand scum together, I'll be sure to spice up the QT just for you :v

[ghug]

Im also getting the feeling that he's manoevring himself into a scumread of me while he's been townreading me all game, just because there seems to be a few others doing it.

I've been townreading you all game?

[ghug]

Town
Durga
Tom
EMC
Flum
HR
Balki
Maniac
kgray

------- line of uncertainty -------
everyone else

Jamiet
Scum

everyone above the line is town as far as I can tell.

Why are flum and HR more clearly town than I am? Why are Maniac and Balki?

Durga/Tom townclears.
EMC 99.9% townclear IMO

Flum, HR, Balki are the other teacon voters D1.

Maniac town through VCA I explained earlier.

Kgray just a solid townread.

Not super sure on anyone else yet.

You know confirmed scum voted for teacon, right?

[Fluminator]

In a game with 6 scum, bussing definitely happens.