M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Vecna]

When did you read your role PM?

Same question: when did you read your PM?

BunnyGo going after Chaqa and Fluminator for saying they forgot the game was starting is similar to what he did with Jamie D1.

@Chaqa and Fluminator: Did you check your PM the day before the game started to see if you were mafia so you would be able to participate in the mafia pregame chat?

Do you honestly think Bunny called out *three* of his teammates this way?

This falls under section 4 of the bozo manual to playing scum

[bozotheclown]

Do you honestly think Bunny called out *three* of his teammates this way?

I would not rule it out considering the way he bussed Jamie. Maybe 2 out of 3.

But there's a difference between having one interaction with a scum teammate and having that same interaction with half of your team... I think it's a lot more likely that Bunny was looping in townies to this interrogation to make them think his push on Jamie was less substantial than that he was calling out multiple teammates in this weird way.

BunnyGo's questioning of Chaqa and Fluminator came first, Jamie was not in the game yet.

[bozotheclown]

Does anyone read this as suspicious?

It is coincidental that we already know the alignment of 7/8 of his town reads (assuming emc is town). This is rather accurate for less than 14 hours into the game. I find the scum read of teacon interesting considering Vecna helped save teacon at EOD.

Do you think it is scummy behavior for me to find a single post to 180 my opinion and try and dissuade people?

Not necessarily. Your opinion of teacon changed before he had any votes, so that does not look too bad.

[Vecna]

why have you not attacked me, questioned my read on you, or tried to sort my alignment?

[bozotheclown]

I am starting to believe the remaining scum are going to turn to be something like damo, Bonatogether, and Chaqa.

[bozotheclown]

why have you not attacked me, questioned my read on you, or tried to sort my alignment?

I have no reason to attack you, I do not have any questions about your incorrect read on me, but I have been trying to determine your alignment.

[Vecna]

So you believe my reasons for scumreading you are genuine? Sounds like the easiest place to start in sorting me.

[bozotheclown]

Everyone should post a full reads list so we can calculate a collective list.

Durga
Tom
emc
aarodactyl
HR
ghug
kgray
Maniac
Vecna
Fluminator
celaph
Balki
Yoyoyozo
Chaqa
Bonatogether
damo
Jamie

[Vecna]

Hi EMC. I thought you were gonna use that verb in something erotic lol. I was bracing for something horrendously beautiful

[bozotheclown]

So you believe my reasons for scumreading you are genuine? Sounds like the easiest place to start in sorting me.

They could be, but they could also be faked if you are scum.

[Vecna]

Everyone should post a full reads list so we can calculate a collective list.

Durga
Tom
emc
aarodactyl
HR
ghug
kgray
Maniac
Vecna
Fluminator
celaph
Balki
Yoyoyozo
Chaqa
Bonatogether
damo
Jamie

Why is HR such a strong townread?

[Vecna]

So you believe my reasons for scumreading you are genuine? Sounds like the easiest place to start in sorting me.

They could be, but they could also be faked if you are scum.

This is not an answer

[bozotheclown]

So you believe my reasons for scumreading you are genuine? Sounds like the easiest place to start in sorting me.

They could be, but they could also be faked if you are scum.

This is not an answer

If I knew the answer I would know your alignment.

[bozotheclown]

Everyone should post a full reads list so we can calculate a collective list.

Durga
Tom
emc
aarodactyl
HR
ghug
kgray
Maniac
Vecna
Fluminator
celaph
Balki
Yoyoyozo
Chaqa
Bonatogether
damo
Jamie

Why is HR such a strong townread?

A few things, but the sequence after Durga's claim made it seem he is likely town. I doubt he would fake the part about multiple scum visiting for a kill.

[Hellenic Riot]

Theres another important take away

Now that we know bunny was the blackmailer and was on EMC N1, they mustve figured out Neph was the cop another way.

Aka, they have someone there that is good at spotting those type of differences in peoples play. Someone very familiar with Neph's playing style.

Don't like this take from Vecna, because (1) it's just randomly shading a vague person/people without looking into who it might actually be that is familiar with Neph's playing style - so he's not using it to solve, so what's even the point of saying this? and (2) it implies he forgot about brain's read of Neph as an investigative PR, which, on top of Vecna actually responding to part of that interaction, I doubt Vecna would actually do.

1: it was a discussion point because I wanted to see if people would pick up on it and see who they would mention. I think its quite obvious who my main candidate is for the shading with his point.

2: So you think scum would base their NK choice on a comment made by brainbomb? Without discussing it internally and finding their own reasoning? Also, no comment like that was made on Rdrivera, which was undoubtedly killed for similar reasoning.

And the people that are still in this game it applies to besides Bozo are -maybe- Damo and HR. From reading the scum QT lats game, I dont think Damo was involved in PR hunting too much? Ill leave that to you. From what I remember, I dont think Ghug actively hunts for PR's. I would obviously do it, but wouldve known better than to suspect Rdrivera of being a PR. Im not sure if Flum is meta-aware enough on Neph

I certainly do hunt for PR's, but in the case of Neph I've never played with him before (or at least not that I remember, Bozo will probably find one game from 3 years ago to slam me with now), so it'd be rather hard to PR-read him based on meta

[Vecna]

Everyone should post a full reads list so we can calculate a collective list.

Durga
Tom
emc
aarodactyl
HR
ghug
kgray
Maniac
Vecna
Fluminator
celaph
Balki
Yoyoyozo
Chaqa
Bonatogether
damo
Jamie

Why is HR such a strong townread?

A few things, but the sequence after Durga's claim made it seem he is likely town. I doubt he would fake the part about multiple scum visiting for a kill.

sorry, what do you mean with multiple scum visiting for a kill?

[Vecna]

Don't like this take from Vecna, because (1) it's just randomly shading a vague person/people without looking into who it might actually be that is familiar with Neph's playing style - so he's not using it to solve, so what's even the point of saying this? and (2) it implies he forgot about brain's read of Neph as an investigative PR, which, on top of Vecna actually responding to part of that interaction, I doubt Vecna would actually do.

1: it was a discussion point because I wanted to see if people would pick up on it and see who they would mention. I think its quite obvious who my main candidate is for the shading with his point.

2: So you think scum would base their NK choice on a comment made by brainbomb? Without discussing it internally and finding their own reasoning? Also, no comment like that was made on Rdrivera, which was undoubtedly killed for similar reasoning.

And the people that are still in this game it applies to besides Bozo are -maybe- Damo and HR. From reading the scum QT lats game, I dont think Damo was involved in PR hunting too much? Ill leave that to you. From what I remember, I dont think Ghug actively hunts for PR's. I would obviously do it, but wouldve known better than to suspect Rdrivera of being a PR. Im not sure if Flum is meta-aware enough on Neph

I certainly do hunt for PR's, but in the case of Neph I've never played with him before (or at least not that I remember, Bozo will probably find one game from 3 years ago to slam me with now), so it'd be rather hard to PR-read him based on meta

Well, if you were scum, id predict you'd make the connection regardless, given current playstyles in the game and seeing how you'd know he was town

[Vecna]

They could be, but they could also be faked if you are scum.

This is not an answer

If I knew the answer I would know your alignment.

And you havent taken the steps to try and get yourself an answer....why?

[Vecna]

VOTE COUNT UPDATE TEN: ...AND BUSINESS IS GOOD! EDITION

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

I am writing up my flavor now, flip will be in ~5mins. If I have misrecorded your vote, please PM me immediately.

Given what we know now, assuming Jamiet flips vanilla as can be realistically expected, an argument can also be made that most of the scumteam decided to bus/vote their 2 vanilla's on D1. Either that or generic bussing. Plenty of scenarios can be made here where the entire scumteam minus jamiet is bussing someone.

In a long game like this, the cred is probably worth it, and the same people that have managed to hunt for PR's would also be aware that town does not get that big of an advantage from killing scum D1.

[Vecna]

Some examples:

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

ND (7): ghug, Durga, aarodactyl, Jamiet99uk, brainbomb, kgray, Hamilton Brian
teacon7 (6): Fluminator, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, VashtaNeurotic, Chaqa, Balki Bartokomous
Maniac (4): rdrivera2005, celaph, ND, damo666
ghug (2): Nephthys, worcej
Jamiet99uk (2): bozotheclown, teacon7
Durga (1): Maniac
Fluminator (1): Bonatogether
bozotheclown (1): Yoyoyozo
Nephthys (1): Vecna
damo666 (1): e.m.c^42

Im sure theres loads of other variations where they did bus maniac as well, but im tired of these colouring exercises.