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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#6481 Post by President Eden » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:35 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:31 pm
I checked the phase resolution on the bot and it says only "BunnyGo the Jailer is dead" on the N3 page.
Omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#6482 Post by President Eden » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:37 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:35 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:31 pm
I checked the phase resolution on the bot and it says only "BunnyGo the Jailer is dead" on the N3 page.
Omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I lost so hard y'all.

Ok. FOR THE BOT:

##resurrect BunnyGo

BunnyGo is DEAD. He was a BLACKMAILER of the EDEN LOYALISTS.

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#6483 Post by Hellenic Riot » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:43 pm

Foiled again

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#6484 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm

kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:19 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Well, emc, those were still some weirdo Hypo Jailer picks. But I guess you’re just a weirdo. Our very own Town Weirdo!
What happened to your scum targeting a teammate conspiracy theory?
I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.

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#6485 Post by damo666 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:49 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:37 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:35 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:31 pm
I checked the phase resolution on the bot and it says only "BunnyGo the Jailer is dead" on the N3 page.
Omg :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I lost so hard y'all.

Ok. FOR THE BOT:

##resurrect BunnyGo

BunnyGo is DEAD. He was a BLACKMAILER of the EDEN LOYALISTS.
OK emc, now you're clear!

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#6486 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:49 pm

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Balki, tell me what you've been up to since our last mafia game here. You play in any other games? We've got 4 days so might as well pass time somehow.
Hey man. I’ve been playing Diplomacy over on the Nexus server. Have not played mafia in a long while. Not sure if the last game I played was on Webdip or Playdip. Other than that, just crushing life.

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#6487 Post by Hellenic Riot » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:19 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Well, emc, those were still some weirdo Hypo Jailer picks. But I guess you’re just a weirdo. Our very own Town Weirdo!
What happened to your scum targeting a teammate conspiracy theory?
I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.
So what you're saying is that if EMC is the last protective PR, he should claim pre-emptively so that the scum can't accidentally CC a clear

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#6488 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:52 pm

Ah, poor lurking Jamie. You should throw away your posting limit and come chat with us lol

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#6489 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:52 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:19 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Well, emc, those were still some weirdo Hypo Jailer picks. But I guess you’re just a weirdo. Our very own Town Weirdo!
What happened to your scum targeting a teammate conspiracy theory?
I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.
There is a 0% that bunny got information from visiting EMC. If EMC has a role, it has to be a protective role (based on the fact we're limited to two investigative roles and they weren't vig). They can't be jailer, so they have to be last rites or medic. If you protect someone that isn't targeted for a kill as last rites or medic, the action is canceled, so blackmailer wouldn't see anything. We know all the kills so far have gone through, so there is no way bunny saw anything that night. Also that means that Bunny also had no useful information from night 2. At best he caught one of Durga, Worcej, or VashTom but those are all outed now.

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#6490 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:55 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:19 pm


What happened to your scum targeting a teammate conspiracy theory?
I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.
So what you're saying is that if EMC is the last protective PR, he should claim pre-emptively so that the scum can't accidentally CC a clear
I don’t know. What is the downside to claiming? Bunny’s role tells them what actions he took, or if he took them. So scum should already know. If scum already know, why not tell all? Is there a downside?

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#6491 Post by Hellenic Riot » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:56 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:55 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm

I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.
So what you're saying is that if EMC is the last protective PR, he should claim pre-emptively so that the scum can't accidentally CC a clear
I don’t know. What is the downside to claiming? Bunny’s role tells them what actions he took, or if he took them. So scum should already know. If scum already know, why not tell all? Is there a downside?
Aaro already spelt out why they wouldn't know if EMC is the other protective PR

And what on earth is the upside, either?

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#6492 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:57 pm

I hope Balki is not scum :v

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#6493 Post by kgray » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:57 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:19 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Well, emc, those were still some weirdo Hypo Jailer picks. But I guess you’re just a weirdo. Our very own Town Weirdo!
What happened to your scum targeting a teammate conspiracy theory?
I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.
Oh, that makes sense. I was thinking that it was just as unlikely that they'd hit a PR with the blackmailer as with the roalblocker but obviously with the blackmailer it gives them info regardless.

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#6494 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:58 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:57 pm
I hope Balki is not scum :v
Please, else it would be disappointing.

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#6495 Post by aarodactyl » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:58 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:55 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:45 pm

I think that might make sense with a role blocker. But I feel like Mafia would be unlikely to miss an opportunity to gain intel from Blackmailer and narrow the PR pool.

Also note: EMC might as well claim his role if he took an action the night that Bunny visited him. Mafia should know it anyway. And I don’t think there are any roles left that would not have taken an action, but someone can correct me if there is one.
So what you're saying is that if EMC is the last protective PR, he should claim pre-emptively so that the scum can't accidentally CC a clear
I don’t know. What is the downside to claiming? Bunny’s role tells them what actions he took, or if he took them. So scum should already know. If scum already know, why not tell all? Is there a downside?
If the action was canceled, bunny's role tells him nothing. I said this in a rely already. I'm mostly just saying this again so in case EMC didn't see the last one.

Also, I feel like you should know the rules better, so it's suspicious you're trying to get emc to claim.

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#6496 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:00 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:58 pm

Blackmailer: Each night, you may investigate another target player. If the investigation is not cancelled, then the following will result.
If your investigation target has taken an action that night, then the investigation reveals the action and its target.
Otherwise, the investigation yields no result.
You win with the MAFIA.
“You might change your mind, once I show you this…”
My read of this role is that Bunny would learn the action and target whether the Protective Role action accomplished something or not. Am I wrong?

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#6497 Post by Fluminator » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:02 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:30 pm
Balki, tell me what you've been up to since our last mafia game here. You play in any other games? We've got 4 days so might as well pass time somehow.
Hey man. I’ve been playing Diplomacy over on the Nexus server. Have not played mafia in a long while. Not sure if the last game I played was on Webdip or Playdip. Other than that, just crushing life.
Do you feel like your style has changed since your last time you played?
Crushing life is awesome. I am too right now ;)
It always make me happy hearing other people are, especially during quarantine.

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#6498 Post by aarodactyl » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:05 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:00 am
President Eden wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:58 pm

Blackmailer: Each night, you may investigate another target player. If the investigation is not cancelled, then the following will result.
If your investigation target has taken an action that night, then the investigation reveals the action and its target.
Otherwise, the investigation yields no result.
You win with the MAFIA.
“You might change your mind, once I show you this…”
My read of this role is that Bunny would learn the action and target whether the Protective Role action accomplished something or not. Am I wrong?
Oh, I'm sorry for implying you you're scum for messing this up. I think you might be correct.

##call GM

-player x takes an action but it's canceled
-player y blackmails player x

what does player y get told?

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#6499 Post by kgray » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:05 am

aarodactyl wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:58 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:55 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 pm


So what you're saying is that if EMC is the last protective PR, he should claim pre-emptively so that the scum can't accidentally CC a clear
I don’t know. What is the downside to claiming? Bunny’s role tells them what actions he took, or if he took them. So scum should already know. If scum already know, why not tell all? Is there a downside?
If the action was canceled, bunny's role tells him nothing. I said this in a rely already. I'm mostly just saying this again so in case EMC didn't see the last one.

Also, I feel like you should know the rules better, so it's suspicious you're trying to get emc to claim.
fwiw I don't think this is scummy from Balki. I don't think he'd do suspicious-seeming things like try to out PRs by hiding behind ignorance as scum. Also, the protective actions being canceled if they're unnecessary is a weird thing about this game in particular.

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#6500 Post by Fluminator » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:05 am

celaph, how you finding this game? You having fun? lol

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