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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4881 Post by Fluminator » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am

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Right so for my other scan. I saw a player X visit player Y. Neither has flipped. The thing is, I don't accidentally want to PR reveal. Can someone read the set up and tell me all the possible things I could have seen here. Thanks.
that could be a doc save? assuming you know it's not the vig.

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#4882 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am

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does this really mean I can no longer scumread Bozo?

im not liking this day whatsoever
No it probably makes bozo less likely to be town imo.
You think they were both bussing with the same reasoning?

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#4883 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am

Oh nevermind, the Protective PR's don't get seen on tracker reports unless they successfully save (which didn't happen)

So yes, it's a scum member, and they either visited a conf town or a conf scum depending on the role

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#4884 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:19 am
Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am
Right so for my other scan. I saw a player X visit player Y. Neither has flipped. The thing is, I don't accidentally want to PR reveal. Can someone read the set up and tell me all the possible things I could have seen here. Thanks.
2 Protective roles, so any 2 of Medic/Last Rites/Jailer

Blackmailer blackmailing a townie
Roleblocker roleblocking a townie
Smuggler smuggling a teammate

Can't be a watcher because there can only be 2 Investigative PR's (you and the Parity Cop)
Obviously can't be Vigilante or Parity Cop.
You knew all this but not that one mafia performed the kill?

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#4885 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am

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Oh nevermind, the Protective PR's don't get seen on tracker reports unless they successfully save (which didn't happen)

So yes, it's a scum member, and they either visited a conf town or a conf scum depending on the role
*NB Actually jailers aren't ruled out, so it could still be a jailer.

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#4886 Post by Fluminator » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
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Jamie being scum significantly strengthens my Flum scumread
Why's that?

Flum does feel pretty inauthentic right now.
As I mentioned in my EoN reads, I felt Flum "calling out" Jamie for only beginning a limited post-count D2 and somehow missing the fact he did it D1 was super super forced. I don't for a second believe Flum actually managed to miss that, especially when Jamie was so adamant about why he was going to do it D1.
I called out Jamiet for much more than that.
He wasn't doing it at the end of day 1 at least.
You're either being as bad as Vecna right now, or salty you just lost a partner.

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#4887 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:19 am
Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am
Right so for my other scan. I saw a player X visit player Y. Neither has flipped. The thing is, I don't accidentally want to PR reveal. Can someone read the set up and tell me all the possible things I could have seen here. Thanks.
2 Protective roles, so any 2 of Medic/Last Rites/Jailer

Blackmailer blackmailing a townie
Roleblocker roleblocking a townie
Smuggler smuggling a teammate

Can't be a watcher because there can only be 2 Investigative PR's (you and the Parity Cop)
Obviously can't be Vigilante or Parity Cop.
You knew all this but not that one mafia performed the kill?
I just went and read it, because there's actually a reason to do so

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4888 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am
Right so for my other scan. I saw a player X visit player Y. Neither has flipped. The thing is, I don't accidentally want to PR reveal. Can someone read the set up and tell me all the possible things I could have seen here. Thanks.
If you saw X visit Y, and Y did not die, and X was not Neph, then I think there are two possibilities where X is town. For X to be town, X must be a protective role trying to protect Y.

So maybe consider whether it would make sense for Town!X to be protecting Y. Is Y a likely target of a Night Kill? Does X townread Y?

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#4889 Post by kgray » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:22 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:18 am
Vecna wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:12 am
does this really mean I can no longer scumread Bozo?

im not liking this day whatsoever
No it probably makes bozo less likely to be town imo.
You think they were both bussing with the same reasoning?
I don’t think scum follows their scum teammate into a town for that bad of reasoning ever. I think it’s slightly more likely they follow their teammate into another teammate, although still not very likely.

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#4890 Post by Durga » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:22 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:19 am
Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am
Right so for my other scan. I saw a player X visit player Y. Neither has flipped. The thing is, I don't accidentally want to PR reveal. Can someone read the set up and tell me all the possible things I could have seen here. Thanks.
Wtf? Did you really claim like that on just a visit?

Doc(like thing) visits.
Investigatives are out.
The vig killing people, but that'd be obvious.

Scum could be the roleblocker or the blackmailer (presumably visiting town) or the smuggler (visiting scum).
Calm the fuck down I can't see medic I'm not so stupid

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#4891 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:23 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:22 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am
kgray wrote:
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No it probably makes bozo less likely to be town imo.
You think they were both bussing with the same reasoning?
I don’t think scum follows their scum teammate into a town for that bad of reasoning ever. I think it’s slightly more likely they follow their teammate into another teammate, although still not very likely.
So more likely, but still not likely. I suppose I agree with that.

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#4892 Post by Vecna » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:23 am

Watcher: will show, unless roleblocked

Medic: wont show on tracking (no saves are made so far)

Jailer: will show, unless roleblocked

Last Rites Priest: will only show if it saved its target from the 1 shot assasinate

tldr: the two saving actions get auto-cancelled unless they actually saved someone so quite unlikely you saw those.

You most likely spotted the watcher/JK, or a scum PR

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#4893 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:23 am

Haha,

@Scum, one of y’all need to CC Durga. She saw your whole damn team.

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#4894 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:24 am

Vecna wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:23 am
Watcher: will show, unless roleblocked

Medic: wont show on tracking (no saves are made so far)

Jailer: will show, unless roleblocked

Last Rites Priest: will only show if it saved its target from the 1 shot assasinate

tldr: the two saving actions get auto-cancelled unless they actually saved someone so quite unlikely you saw those.

You most likely spotted the watcher/JK, or a scum PR
There can't be a watcher, there's only 2 investigatives

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#4895 Post by Durga » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:24 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am
Oh nevermind, the Protective PR's don't get seen on tracker reports unless they successfully save (which didn't happen)

So yes, it's a scum member, and they either visited a conf town or a conf scum depending on the role
*NB Actually jailers aren't ruled out, so it could still be a jailer.
Right, so this is the only thing I'm worried about. I was pretty certain one was scum after the parity cop flip bc it only made sense in my head as a cop scan. Did PE say jailed ppl would know they were jailed or not

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#4896 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:25 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
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Haha,

@Scum, one of y’all need to CC Durga. She saw your whole damn team.
"Teammates please help me we're in trouble"

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#4897 Post by ghug » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:25 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:24 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am
Oh nevermind, the Protective PR's don't get seen on tracker reports unless they successfully save (which didn't happen)

So yes, it's a scum member, and they either visited a conf town or a conf scum depending on the role
*NB Actually jailers aren't ruled out, so it could still be a jailer.
Right, so this is the only thing I'm worried about. I was pretty certain one was scum after the parity cop flip bc it only made sense in my head as a cop scan. Did PE say jailed ppl would know they were jailed or not
Only if they had an action cancelled, I think.

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#4898 Post by Vecna » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:25 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:19 am
Vecna wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:18 am
Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am
Right so for my other scan. I saw a player X visit player Y. Neither has flipped. The thing is, I don't accidentally want to PR reveal. Can someone read the set up and tell me all the possible things I could have seen here. Thanks.
Only the watcher I think?

Doesnt appear a docsave was made (unless the assasinate was used,

ok nm, I need to read this shit more carefully.
Not possible. I'm tracker and Neph was cop. No more investigation roles.
oh right. So unless it was visiting a person that is likely to have been targetted with the 1 shot assassinate, its a 1 in 4 of being the JK (which might not even exist) and 3 in 4 of being a scum PR.

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#4899 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:25 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:24 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am
Oh nevermind, the Protective PR's don't get seen on tracker reports unless they successfully save (which didn't happen)

So yes, it's a scum member, and they either visited a conf town or a conf scum depending on the role
*NB Actually jailers aren't ruled out, so it could still be a jailer.
Right, so this is the only thing I'm worried about. I was pretty certain one was scum after the parity cop flip bc it only made sense in my head as a cop scan. Did PE say jailed ppl would know they were jailed or not
No

There's no real reason to out the report when you have a guilty today, but also no reason not to out in your EoN post tonight - There's a 75% chance it's scum, and an outed jailer isn't a bad drawback

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#4900 Post by Vecna » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:28 am

Fluminator wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:21 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:17 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am


Why's that?

Flum does feel pretty inauthentic right now.
As I mentioned in my EoN reads, I felt Flum "calling out" Jamie for only beginning a limited post-count D2 and somehow missing the fact he did it D1 was super super forced. I don't for a second believe Flum actually managed to miss that, especially when Jamie was so adamant about why he was going to do it D1.
I called out Jamiet for much more than that.
He wasn't doing it at the end of day 1 at least.
You're either being as bad as Vecna right now, or salty you just lost a partner.
Relax flum, youre still parity-copped with a flipped town remember

I just need to call you out when I see you do semi-suspicious stuff.

Especially now that im confronted with me again foolishly ignoring my d1 gut

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