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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4821 Post by aarodactyl » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:40 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 pm
The only way I can see for a tracker to catch multiple scum members is if she tracked the Smuggler & knows they're scum because they performed the kill as well. But unless she was sitting on a guilty for the entirety of D2, I don't see how she can have caught three...
If they were dumb enough to let their roleblocker/blackmailer/smuggler do an action and a kill to begin with

Still pretty sure she's just meme'ing
I thought I understood the setup, but this comment makes me a bit confused. When you say they do a kill, what do you mean by that? My assumption is that when mafia submits a night kill, is it a single person actually performing a kill? If so, I agree it doesn't make sense to have their smuggler preforming the kill.

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4822 Post by Vecna » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:40 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 pm
The only way I can see for a tracker to catch multiple scum members is if she tracked the Smuggler & knows they're scum because they performed the kill as well. But unless she was sitting on a guilty for the entirety of D2, I don't see how she can have caught three...
If they were dumb enough to let their roleblocker/blackmailer/smuggler do an action and a kill to begin with

Still pretty sure she's just meme'ing
To be fair, in tracker setups it's usual to have all scum members visit the kill (or at the very least a majority of them) - But watcher reports to only see the oldest visit.

##CALL GM Is that the case in this setup?
what bullshit is this?

that would effectively turn the tracker into an uber-cop that gets inno's on any night with a nightkill

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4823 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm

kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:45 pm
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:41 pm


Nah I don’t buy that this is one of your main reasons for scumreading worcej and you’re just ignoring it when it comes to your damo read, especially when you called out damo for not voting brain at EOD.
Damo's still blatant town
That’s not my point. You don’t get to pick and choose if something is scummy based on your preexisting read of them.
It's pretty simple:

Worcej felt like he was gloating about it being TvT and had prior knowledge this was the case

Damo did not

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4824 Post by Fluminator » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm

Everyone should all vote Yoyo. It would be funny if he comes back to the thread and sees everyone voting him.

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#4825 Post by worcej » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:49 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:41 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:40 pm


If they were dumb enough to let their roleblocker/blackmailer/smuggler do an action and a kill to begin with

Still pretty sure she's just meme'ing
If she is, I'll plant my vote on her @ EOD simply for wasting the entire damn day phase with this stunt.
im sure she's quaking in her boots now and about to still the beans
I am sure she is.

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#4826 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:40 pm


If they were dumb enough to let their roleblocker/blackmailer/smuggler do an action and a kill to begin with

Still pretty sure she's just meme'ing
To be fair, in tracker setups it's usual to have all scum members visit the kill (or at the very least a majority of them) - But watcher reports to only see the oldest visit.

##CALL GM Is that the case in this setup?
what bullshit is this?

that would effectively turn the tracker into an uber-cop that gets inno's on any night with a nightkill
When I ran a tracker setup on here, a majority of mafia QT had to be for the kill (and a minority could no-visit). So when there were 5 scum, you'd have 3 guilties & 2 inno. 4 scum = 3 guilties, 1 inno. Etc etc. That's the standard way tracker setups are done elsewhere.

You'd also usually have something like a Ninja which always visits no one on tracker reports (IE a godfather but for trackers) as a counter to it, though that isn't present here.

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#4827 Post by worcej » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:45 pm

Damo's still blatant town
That’s not my point. You don’t get to pick and choose if something is scummy based on your preexisting read of them.
It's pretty simple:

Worcej felt like he was gloating about it being TvT and had prior knowledge this was the case

Damo did not
Wrong, but you do you HR. You've been confirmed wrong more than I have so :razz:

I pretty adamantly have continued to explain why I thought HB was town. Brain was a lean, and turns out I was right with both.

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#4828 Post by kgray » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:45 pm

Damo's still blatant town
That’s not my point. You don’t get to pick and choose if something is scummy based on your preexisting read of them.
It's pretty simple:

Worcej felt like he was gloating about it being TvT and had prior knowledge this was the case

Damo did not
And yet he still didn’t vote to save his #1 townread.

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#4829 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:51 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm


That’s not my point. You don’t get to pick and choose if something is scummy based on your preexisting read of them.
It's pretty simple:

Worcej felt like he was gloating about it being TvT and had prior knowledge this was the case

Damo did not
Wrong, but you do you HR. You've been confirmed wrong more than I have so :razz:

I pretty adamantly have continued to explain why I thought HB was town. Brain was a lean, and turns out I was right with both.
Have I? I distinctly remember voting teacon D1

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#4830 Post by ghug » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm
Everyone should all vote Yoyo. It would be funny if he comes back to the thread and sees everyone voting him.
I think this is actually the best plan.

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#4831 Post by worcej » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm

To be fair, in tracker setups it's usual to have all scum members visit the kill (or at the very least a majority of them) - But watcher reports to only see the oldest visit.

##CALL GM Is that the case in this setup?
what bullshit is this?

that would effectively turn the tracker into an uber-cop that gets inno's on any night with a nightkill
When I ran a tracker setup on here, a majority of mafia QT had to be for the kill (and a minority could no-visit). So when there were 5 scum, you'd have 3 guilties & 2 inno. 4 scum = 3 guilties, 1 inno. Etc etc. That's the standard way tracker setups are done elsewhere.

You'd also usually have something like a Ninja which always visits no one on tracker reports (IE a godfather but for trackers) as a counter to it, though that isn't present here.
You definitely need to refresh on how abilities work and how we GM tracker roles.

A mafia kill is usually carried out by one member, usually voted upon or setup as either the first or last person to vote for the kill target.

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#4832 Post by President Eden » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:40 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 pm
The only way I can see for a tracker to catch multiple scum members is if she tracked the Smuggler & knows they're scum because they performed the kill as well. But unless she was sitting on a guilty for the entirety of D2, I don't see how she can have caught three...
If they were dumb enough to let their roleblocker/blackmailer/smuggler do an action and a kill to begin with

Still pretty sure she's just meme'ing
To be fair, in tracker setups it's usual to have all scum members visit the kill (or at the very least a majority of them) - But watcher reports to only see the oldest visit.

##CALL GM Is that the case in this setup?
The mafia assigns a player to carry out its factional nightkill. The tracker chooses a player and learns who that player targeted with night actions. The watcher chooses a player and learns who targeted that player with night actions.

For more information, CTRL+F "Setup Information" on page 1. The part of the OP with role information and interactions is the only hit on the page so you'll jump right to it.

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#4833 Post by worcej » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:53 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:51 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm

It's pretty simple:

Worcej felt like he was gloating about it being TvT and had prior knowledge this was the case

Damo did not
Wrong, but you do you HR. You've been confirmed wrong more than I have so :razz:

I pretty adamantly have continued to explain why I thought HB was town. Brain was a lean, and turns out I was right with both.
Have I? I distinctly remember voting teacon D1
So? My statement still stands.

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#4834 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:53 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:40 pm


If they were dumb enough to let their roleblocker/blackmailer/smuggler do an action and a kill to begin with

Still pretty sure she's just meme'ing
To be fair, in tracker setups it's usual to have all scum members visit the kill (or at the very least a majority of them) - But watcher reports to only see the oldest visit.

##CALL GM Is that the case in this setup?
The mafia assigns a player to carry out its factional nightkill. The tracker chooses a player and learns who that player targeted with night actions. The watcher chooses a player and learns who targeted that player with night actions.

For more information, CTRL+F "Setup Information" on page 1. The part of the OP with role information and interactions is the only hit on the page so you'll jump right to it.
So only one player does the kill? Interesting

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#4835 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm

kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:50 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:48 pm
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:47 pm


That’s not my point. You don’t get to pick and choose if something is scummy based on your preexisting read of them.
It's pretty simple:

Worcej felt like he was gloating about it being TvT and had prior knowledge this was the case

Damo did not
And yet he still didn’t vote to save his #1 townread.
I'm his true secret #1 townread

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#4836 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm

##vote Yoyo

But I want to know now! Stop being mean.

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#4837 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:46 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm
I will sit on ##vote vecna for the moment.
dont make me feed you to the HR monster cutie-pie
Well, you are almost certainly not going to be wagon of size, so I can feel safe here with you while scouting out others ;p

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#4838 Post by ghug » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:53 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:44 pm

To be fair, in tracker setups it's usual to have all scum members visit the kill (or at the very least a majority of them) - But watcher reports to only see the oldest visit.

##CALL GM Is that the case in this setup?
The mafia assigns a player to carry out its factional nightkill. The tracker chooses a player and learns who that player targeted with night actions. The watcher chooses a player and learns who targeted that player with night actions.

For more information, CTRL+F "Setup Information" on page 1. The part of the OP with role information and interactions is the only hit on the page so you'll jump right to it.
So only one player does the kill? Interesting
How come you believed him and not me?

This feels like a heavy-handed dumbslip.

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#4839 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:53 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm

The mafia assigns a player to carry out its factional nightkill. The tracker chooses a player and learns who that player targeted with night actions. The watcher chooses a player and learns who targeted that player with night actions.

For more information, CTRL+F "Setup Information" on page 1. The part of the OP with role information and interactions is the only hit on the page so you'll jump right to it.
So only one player does the kill? Interesting
How come you believed him and not me?

This feels like a heavy-handed dumbslip.
Because he's the GM, compadre

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#4840 Post by Vecna » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:54 pm

now the question is, can I be assed to go dig on the bot if HR played any tracker setups to out whether he is just dumbtelling here

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