M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4561 Post by kgray » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:36 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:29 pm
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:42 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:36 pm


Unless you're asking why I'm only asking Jamiet Yoyo.
Jamiet was getting irritated at Yoyo saying he needs to die. I would expect Jamiet to be getting angrier as Yoyo has only basically become even more of a tool since last time.
Which makes me think the anger was fake, and it was the only reason I had him as null instead of scum.
No that's not what I was asking, but it makes sense. What other reasons do you have to scumread Jamie?
drunk bo sox is incredibly awkward as scum, and he was super awkward this game too before he suddenly replaced out.

I used to read Jamiet based on how emotional he got during the game because he gets heated as town while remaining very chill and out of the action as scum. Last game I realized Jamiet is able to keep the emotion in as town now too so now it's more just a way to townread him instead of scumread him, but he hasn't done it yet so I don't have my easy townread.

But he still became really clearly town by the end of last game based on how he reacted to things and was very engaged with the game even with his post limit. He is really hanging back this game. He's covering it with a lot of humour (and I've underestimated how funny Jamiet can be) but almost think he's relying on it as a crutch right now.

His posting limit starting up again for no reason day 2 when it wasn't there day 1 is really weird too when nothing happened that should trigger it, other than to give him an excuse to disengage even further.

Now he's not angry at Yoyo.

Jamiet is pretty sus
He did say last game that he’s funnier as scum.

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4562 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:37 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:30 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:46 pm
@Flum

I would like to hear how on earth I managed to 'prod you' into asking HB about something I wasn't aware existed
You told me the reason you townread HB was because Damo town read him. I thought you might think you have a cop read on Damo having an innocent on HB or something so I'd humour you by checking his reasons.

His reason for townreading HB was in day 1 because he said he had a list of notes. (so it wasn't a cop read)
Did you not know the reason damo was townreading HB?
That was me being sarcastic by using the exact same unexplained reason that you were apparently sheeping my damo read for


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#4564 Post by damo666 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:39 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:50 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:07 am


You're right damo, it's totally unreasonable that townies who know only their own alignment would vote two townies in a row, so therefore we must be sum....

A probability person like you should know that this makes no sense.
The chances of 4 townies all voting town both days is (19/25)*(17/22)^4=11.9%.

It is therefore quite likely there is at least 1 scum in the four (another way of saying not ALL town). The chance an individual town randomly votes 2 town in a row is about 58.7% so not taking anything else into account any one individual is more likely to be town but collectively the group is very likely to contain AT LEAST ONE SCUM.

Yet again you choose to misconstrue what I say to throw shade at me. You need to detunnel.
You just did the statistical equivalent of circular reasoning.

You calculate the statistical odds of 4 specific TOWNIES doing something. You CANNOT then use those same numbers to reason that they must be scum.

Given your past, I reckon you know damn well that mr Bernoulli is very disappointed with you right now.
O dear o dear.

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4565 Post by peterlund » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:43 pm

Regarding the "bot outage issue" 2 days ago, please check:

viewtopic.php?p=196311#p196311

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4566 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:45 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:38 pm
You're so weird this game HR
The implied point was that I had no idea why you were so happy to automatically sheep my damo-read.

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#4567 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:46 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:06 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:09 pm
Bozo has been very quiet tonight.

I think I will be voting for Maniac tomorrow but I have not forgotten about Bozo and how dreadful he is. Don't think I've forgotten you, Bozo. I haven't.
What happened to being angry at Yoyo? I'm actually quite angry at him and I'm weirded out your not mentioning it.
Apparently we give free passes to lurkers here, so I just ran out of energy. I repeatedly attempted to get a wagon going on Yoyo but just got sneered at for it.

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Re: M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

#4568 Post by Fluminator » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:50 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:45 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:38 pm
You're so weird this game HR
The implied point was that I had no idea why you were so happy to automatically sheep my damo-read.
When you're saying the odds of damo being scum are basically less than that of President Eden getting drunk and sending you nudes and an incorrect role PM, I'll assume you're seeing something I'm not for a small while.

I'm going to make so much fun of you if damo is scum and you're town.

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#4569 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:50 pm

Nephthys wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:33 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:14 pm
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:08 am

With the exception of the conf scum - Flum/HB/teacon
@Neph:

It appears that you townread Maniac.

Why is that?
No idea, I just delete the names when I move them out
"Move them out of what"?

So, you're telling us that you townread Maniac for no reason?

Uh.

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#4570 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:50 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:45 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:38 pm
You're so weird this game HR
The implied point was that I had no idea why you were so happy to automatically sheep my damo-read.
When you're saying the odds of damo being scum are basically less than that of President Eden getting drunk and sending you nudes and an incorrect role PM, I'll assume you're seeing something I'm not for a small while.

I'm going to make so much fun of you if damo is scum and you're town.
You spent half the day yesterday asking me about if I was still sure on my damo read whilst I made more and more absurd declarations about it to see if you'd continue sheeping regardless

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#4571 Post by Fluminator » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:57 pm

I asked you twice, once because you didn't answer the first time, near the beginning of the day.

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#4572 Post by President Eden » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:57 pm

peterlund wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:43 pm
Regarding the "bot outage issue" 2 days ago, please check:

viewtopic.php?p=196311#p196311
You stingy punks better give this man the +1's you're holding out from me. He is a national treasure. Thanks Peter!!

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#4573 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:58 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:57 pm
I asked you twice, once because you didn't answer the first time, near the beginning of the day.
And mentioned it three more times

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#4574 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:58 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 pm

You spent half the day yesterday asking me about if I was still sure on my damo read whilst I made more and more absurd declarations about it to see if you'd continue sheeping regardless
So, might this be considered a bad thing?

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#4575 Post by damo666 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:59 pm

aarodactyl wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:07 am


You're right damo, it's totally unreasonable that townies who know only their own alignment would vote two townies in a row, so therefore we must be sum....

A probability person like you should know that this makes no sense.
The chances of 4 townies all voting town both days is (19/25)*(17/22)^4=11.9%.

It is therefore quite likely there is at least 1 scum in the four (another way of saying not ALL town). The chance an individual town randomly votes 2 town in a row is about 58.7% so not taking anything else into account any one individual is more likely to be town but collectively the group is very likely to contain AT LEAST ONE SCUM.

Yet again you choose to misconstrue what I say to throw shade at me. You need to detunnel.
I’m offended by this math. You’re making several faulty assumptions. First of all, you’re assuming that everyone’s votes are independent of each other. You’re also assuming that every town player just randomly chooses someone to vote for.
That's kind of the point. The above gives best town case. So the chances of all 4 being town are even smaller.

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#4576 Post by Fluminator » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:59 pm

Your read on EMC is probably wrong too btw

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#4577 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:01 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:58 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 pm

You spent half the day yesterday asking me about if I was still sure on my damo read whilst I made more and more absurd declarations about it to see if you'd continue sheeping regardless
So, might this be considered a bad thing?
In that I have no idea why Flum was so happy to sheep me, yes. It began to raise my suspicions the more he went on about

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#4578 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:01 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:48 pm
Unless I get traction on emc and Balki or someone else I feel like voting, I shall sheep damo no matter what tomorrow*
@HR, I feel like you should be either (a) more inquisitive and curious about me, or (b) more patronizing and spike-the-football-touchdowny about me.

You seem to be saying that you're pretty convinced that I'm scum. If that is true, shouldn't you be lording it over me? Also, how can you be so convinced I am scum? Just the timing of my teacon vote day 1, or is there more?

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#4579 Post by Hellenic Riot » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:04 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:01 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:48 pm
Unless I get traction on emc and Balki or someone else I feel like voting, I shall sheep damo no matter what tomorrow*
@HR, I feel like you should be either (a) more inquisitive and curious about me, or (b) more patronizing and spike-the-football-touchdowny about me.

You seem to be saying that you're pretty convinced that I'm scum. If that is true, shouldn't you be lording it over me? Also, how can you be so convinced I am scum? Just the timing of my teacon vote day 1, or is there more?
Why should I be lording it over you? I attempted to get a wagon on you through yesterday and it failed. Not a lot of point gloating about a read if you can't do anything about it

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#4580 Post by damo666 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:07 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:01 pm
aarodactyl wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:25 am


The chances of 4 townies all voting town both days is (19/25)*(17/22)^4=11.9%.

It is therefore quite likely there is at least 1 scum in the four (another way of saying not ALL town). The chance an individual town randomly votes 2 town in a row is about 58.7% so not taking anything else into account any one individual is more likely to be town but collectively the group is very likely to contain AT LEAST ONE SCUM.

Yet again you choose to misconstrue what I say to throw shade at me. You need to detunnel.
I’m offended by this math. You’re making several faulty assumptions. First of all, you’re assuming that everyone’s votes are independent of each other. You’re also assuming that every town player just randomly chooses someone to vote for.
why does this get upvotes and my observation did not.

Making faulty assumptions isnt that damning. Purposefully making wrong statistical calculations to make people appear scummy on the other hand.....
There are no statistical calculations here. Simple probabilities.

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