M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Chaqa]

a) you haven't even tried reading it
b) you said you were playing among us so idk why you're complaining about your American colonial holiday

Thanksgiving doesn't really have much to do with colonialism. Maybe it started that way, but it's a day to spend time with your family, eat turkey, and unwind. No need to be abrasive.

It has plenty to do with it. Enjoy time with your (limited subset of) your family (who you were already seeing), but don't deny the context.

There is no colonial context to any contemporary Thanksgiving celebrations. Have you ever walked into your Thanksgiving dinner and said "oh boy I sure am glad we killed all those Indians".

Please, spare me the apologist crap. It's a family day.

[Chaqa]

I liked you more when you were buddying me.

I was scum that game though

Only if kgray was also scum.

Still surprised that work.

[kgray]

I should really differentiate the 3 newcomers in my mind soon.

How was I just thinking this lol

aaro - knows Bunny irl. Voted meaningfully day one.
celaph - did the QT thing
Bona - other one

Wait how meaningful do we actually think aaro's vote was? In my head it was more impactful, but looking at the bot he just tied ND with Maniac, and teacon was still on 2 votes.

I said earlier that I thought aaro/teacon made sense as scum partners but I think that's less compelling now. If Maniac is scum then aaro does look a lot worse, and I think his changed read of ND does seem a bit forced, but it's not like he voted to save teacon...

[ghug]

Thanksgiving doesn't really have much to do with colonialism. Maybe it started that way, but it's a day to spend time with your family, eat turkey, and unwind. No need to be abrasive.

It has plenty to do with it. Enjoy time with your (limited subset of) your family (who you were already seeing), but don't deny the context.

There is no colonial context to any contemporary Thanksgiving celebrations. Have you ever walked into your Thanksgiving dinner and said "oh boy I sure am glad we killed all those Indians".

Please, spare me the apologist crap. It's a family day.

You exist in the context of your ancestors, Chaqa. You can't erase the past.

[ghug]

How was I just thinking this lol

aaro - knows Bunny irl. Voted meaningfully day one.
celaph - did the QT thing
Bona - other one

Wait how meaningful do we actually think aaro's vote was? In my head it was more impactful, but looking at the bot he just tied ND with Maniac, and teacon was still on 2 votes.

I said earlier that I thought aaro/teacon made sense as scum partners but I think that's less compelling now. If Maniac is scum then aaro does look a lot worse, and I think his changed read of ND does seem a bit forced, but it's not like he voted to save teacon...

This sounds like something for sober ghug to look back at, but the leaders were only up one after the vote. It's a reasonable thing for scum to do is a teammate or two is on two votes and they want to make it town v town.

[aarodactyl]

I have a pretty busy weekend, and so I'm just catching up on the last 20 pages. I have a couple of vague reads that I'll post once I'm caught up (and once I've gone though the voting records from last round). I have a lot more free time during the week, so I'm going to try to be much more active then.

Also, after looking at the results, I agree that my vote on ND was pretty suspicious. In case anyone asked and I haven't read it yet, I became increasingly less confident in my town read and also got more annoyed at the way he was talking to everyone. I also didn't anticipate all the flipping at the end of the round, but I guess I should have seen it coming in retrospect.

[kgray]

A lot of the change is from teacon's last post, and I put my reasons in my post looking at it (2572/129), although some people have gone up or down on their own.

I townread, in order of strength, top down:
brain; his large EoN posts were solid even if he was wrong about teacon, although I still want to see post 3. Also very active

Kgray; I dislike their being a part of the 3 vote sequence on ND, but I dislike her voters more
damo; teacon called him scum in his EoN post (interestingly the same logic that celaph is using to sus damo)
ghug; is also active, but did the weird thing of refusing to explain why he scumread me in his post, but then turned around and laughed it off
HB: teacon called him scum in his EoN post, but I think him having wrong reads is excusable, if a little sus.

Balki: voted teacon

I scumread, least scum on top:
Vecna: this is more of a null read than anything else, but I don't think too highly of his liking celaph's post where he called maniac sus for not voting when celaph was in the exact same circumstance
Everyone who's not talking: We're multiple days in, and there are 4 people below 20 posts. At least two are lurking scum - probably yoyo and chaqa (yes i know chaqa voted teacon)

Jamie; self imposed low posting, and then not doing a lot with some of his posts.
Maniac: post 2797 doesn't feel legit to me, and he hasn't been talking much
Aaro; apparently has mafia experience but hasn't scumread anyone, and voted one of his townreads (ND)
Nep; was defensive about my comments about them in my earlier reads list even though I didn't say they were sus.

Durga; pushed ND and came into my talk heavily on my side against ghug when he was pulling the "how do you feel' junk
celaph; votes without putting out a read list *or* having many opinions

Why am I your second highest townread if you dislike my vote for ND?

You only townread damo because teacon said he was scummy? He's voting for me, you should dislike him more

Why do you think Durga calling out ghug was scummy?

[aarodactyl]

I actually like your point, but the conclusion seems wrong.

He started out by throwing softballs to aarodactyl, and then also threw in the other two. He did follow up on it though when they did not respond.

If it was meant as a way to lift them up, do you think they would just ignore it?

Yeah I can definitely see aaro and teacon as teammates.

I'm not scum, so we're not teammates.

On a more serious note, I'm pretty sure he was only throwing out softballs because there bunny and I had some weird interactions and he was trying to make the thread not weird.

[ghug]

I actually like your point, but the conclusion seems wrong.

He started out by throwing softballs to aarodactyl, and then also threw in the other two. He did follow up on it though when they did not respond.

If it was meant as a way to lift them up, do you think they would just ignore it?

Yeah I can definitely see aaro and teacon as teammates.

I'm not scum, so we're not teammates.

On a more serious note, I'm pretty sure he was only throwing out softballs because there bunny and I had some weird interactions and he was trying to make the thread not weird.

What was weird about your interactions with Bunny?

Why would teacon want to make that stop?

[Bonatogether]

Why am I your second highest townread if you dislike my vote for ND?

You only townread damo because teacon said he was scummy? He's voting for me, you should dislike him more

Why do you think Durga calling out ghug was scummy?

I'm still figuring a lot of this out, but I think you're generally solid.

...?

She seems like she's trying to ingratiate herself with me - see her posts reprimanding ghug for not saying why he scumread me, and then her comment regarding me being "the other noob." I'm not going to die on the hill of scum!durga, though.

[aarodactyl]

@aarodactyl, you're pulling a Yoyo.

Yeah, sorry. I'm catching up right now and I'm going to try to be much more active now that the holiday weekend is over.

[kgray]

Only scum would do town reads alphabetically instead of by strength.

No idea how teacon defended me when he essentially blamed ND's toxic shit on me but go off

It's not even close to alphabetical though?

Lmao I was wondering when somebody would notice that.

So what happened, did you just forget the alphabet?

[ghug]

Why am I your second highest townread if you dislike my vote for ND?

You only townread damo because teacon said he was scummy? He's voting for me, you should dislike him more

Why do you think Durga calling out ghug was scummy?

I'm still figuring a lot of this out, but I think you're generally solid.

...?

She seems like she's trying to ingratiate herself with me - see her posts reprimanding ghug for not saying why he scumread me, and then her comment regarding me being "the other noob." I'm not going to die on the hill of scum!durga, though.

Durga's weirdly obsessed with me. Don't take it too personally.

[aarodactyl]

@Bona

I notice you've spent a lot of today questioning other people's reads (and a big post looking back at teacon's actions), without actually giving any of your own - aside from voting celaph because he voted without giving reasons. Do you have any townreads? Has teacon's flip affected those? What did your look back at teacon lead you to conclude about other people?

A lot of the change is from teacon's last post, and I put my reasons in my post looking at it (2572/129), although some people have gone up or down on their own.

I townread, in order of strength, top down:
brain; his large EoN posts were solid even if he was wrong about teacon, although I still want to see post 3. Also very active

Kgray; I dislike their being a part of the 3 vote sequence on ND, but I dislike her voters more
damo; teacon called him scum in his EoN post (interestingly the same logic that celaph is using to sus damo)
ghug; is also active, but did the weird thing of refusing to explain why he scumread me in his post, but then turned around and laughed it off
HB: teacon called him scum in his EoN post, but I think him having wrong reads is excusable, if a little sus.

Balki: voted teacon

I scumread, least scum on top:
Vecna: this is more of a null read than anything else, but I don't think too highly of his liking celaph's post where he called maniac sus for not voting when celaph was in the exact same circumstance
Everyone who's not talking: We're multiple days in, and there are 4 people below 20 posts. At least two are lurking scum - probably yoyo and chaqa (yes i know chaqa voted teacon)

Jamie; self imposed low posting, and then not doing a lot with some of his posts.
Maniac: post 2797 doesn't feel legit to me, and he hasn't been talking much
Aaro; apparently has mafia experience but hasn't scumread anyone, and voted one of his townreads (ND)
Nep; was defensive about my comments about them in my earlier reads list even though I didn't say they were sus.

Durga; pushed ND and came into my talk heavily on my side against ghug when he was pulling the "how do you feel' junk
celaph; votes without putting out a read list *or* having many opinions

People keep emphasizing that I voted one of my town reads. Unless I'm getting my ordering of everything wrong, I townread ND pretty early into the round and then changed my mind. I'm going to go back and check that if I have time, but I honestly might have time finding that.

[kgray]

Would people be more interested in aaro than brain? It seems like brain isn't happening today.

Yes.

##VOTE aaro

Sorry I think I changed my mind since saying that...

[ghug]

Yes.

##VOTE aaro

Sorry I think I changed my mind since saying that...

Yeah I figured. If you don't want to vote for any of my people, can you at least convince me to vote for someone feasible? I feel on track to vote for Yoyo, and blegh.

[kgray]

Why am I your second highest townread if you dislike my vote for ND?

You only townread damo because teacon said he was scummy? He's voting for me, you should dislike him more

Why do you think Durga calling out ghug was scummy?

I'm still figuring a lot of this out, but I think you're generally solid.

...?

She seems like she's trying to ingratiate herself with me - see her posts reprimanding ghug for not saying why he scumread me, and then her comment regarding me being "the other noob." I'm not going to die on the hill of scum!durga, though.

I'm asking why you townread damo. You said that you dislike the people voting for me, and damo is one of those people. The only reason you gave for townreading damo is that tecon said he was scum in his EON post, but he also said that about Balki who you listed as null.

So what makes damo towny to you?

[aarodactyl]

Would people be more interested in aaro than brain? It seems like brain isn't happening today.

Is this related to saying my vote on D1 was meaningful? I'm pretty sure that's the only comment you've made about me recently.

[Bonatogether]

I'm asking why you townread damo. You said that you dislike the people voting for me, and damo is one of those people. The only reason you gave for townreading damo is that tecon said he was scum in his EON post, but he also said that about Balki who you listed as null.

So what makes damo towny to you?

Although he hasn't posted recently, his reasoning in N1 seemed solid to me.

It's late and I have school tomorrow, so I'm signing off.

[aarodactyl]

Yeah I can definitely see aaro and teacon as teammates.

I'm not scum, so we're not teammates.

On a more serious note, I'm pretty sure he was only throwing out softballs because there bunny and I had some weird interactions and he was trying to make the thread not weird.

What was weird about your interactions with Bunny?

Why would teacon want to make that stop?

Maybe it's because I know him in real life, but he started acting really strangely after I was shitposting. I have no idea why he'd want it to stop. I personally think that Bunny might be scum, so maybe that's releated? I'm going to type that up that read in a little bit (since I want to reference some posts and I haven't been taking notes).