M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[ghug]

When I start scumreading myself I'll put this into consideration

Lmao sorry. TownHR/scumFlum*

I don't see a reason for him to make me look more closely at Flum if Flum is his teammate

Wait, how does it make you look more closely at Flum?

[celaph]

I'm a couple pages behind, but celaph is voting without putting out any reads? He's put out a few half hearted posts (2709/136, 2726/137) asking why someone is voting the way they are, and not followed up on them - I don't believe anyone ever responded to them, but I might be wrong there.

##vote celaph

What additional read do you want/expect on my Yoyo vote? I can't read them if they don't talk. For the HB vote I agree that I could have been more forthcoming in my explanation. HB challenged me on it and I've now responded to that.

I agree that you can't get a read on Yoyo, but what I meant is that you haven't scumread anyone and you're voting? It's D2 and you think no one seems sus?

There seems to be some misunderstanding because I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that I find no one sus. Perhaps I should try to be more direct.

My D1 vote was on Maniac because I found his explanation for the vote on Durga particularly poor. I also find Maniac's explanation for his vote on kgray today similarly poor. So far he hasn't responded to my question on his kgray vote asking him about his read on kgray. I find Maniac suspicious.

My D2 vote is on HB. I wrote in an earlier post (here: viewtopic.php?p=194636#p194636) about why I'm voting for HB.
To expand on that, I feel very underwhelmed by HB's defense thus far. Asked me about my vote on him, appears to accepted it and moved on. Asked bb about his opinion on teacon's last message, received a vague response about teacon hiding scum by not mentioning them and moved on. Also feel weird about HB asking for any feelings on Maniac's D1 Durga vote that both rdr and myself used to justify our votes on him. It feels scattered and that all doesn't sit right with me, hence my suspicion.

In terms of other reads that I haven't yet verbalized, I don't have great feelings about Damo and EMC. The latter for the really weak sus on the former (including a vote on damo despite being around at EoD). The former for their D1 Maniac vote.

Lastly, in writing this I realized that I should probably extend my question to Maniac to damo as well. @damo how do your reads of kgray tie into your vote for her? Notably that you said she was leantown last night.

[Hamilton Brian]

It feels scattered and that all doesn't sit right with me, hence my suspicion.

Yeah, it's what I do and how I am. Particularly today.

Regarding self-defense, I feel that energy would be better spent trying to find scum, such as my attempts are.

[Vecna]

What additional read do you want/expect on my Yoyo vote? I can't read them if they don't talk. For the HB vote I agree that I could have been more forthcoming in my explanation. HB challenged me on it and I've now responded to that.

I agree that you can't get a read on Yoyo, but what I meant is that you haven't scumread anyone and you're voting? It's D2 and you think no one seems sus?

There seems to be some misunderstanding because I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that I find no one sus. Perhaps I should try to be more direct.

My D1 vote was on Maniac because I found his explanation for the vote on Durga particularly poor. I also find Maniac's explanation for his vote on kgray today similarly poor. So far he hasn't responded to my question on his kgray vote asking him about his read on kgray. I find Maniac suspicious.

My D2 vote is on HB. I wrote in an earlier post (here: viewtopic.php?p=194636#p194636) about why I'm voting for HB.
To expand on that, I feel very underwhelmed by HB's defense thus far. Asked me about my vote on him, appears to accepted it and moved on. Asked bb about his opinion on teacon's last message, received a vague response about teacon hiding scum by not mentioning them and moved on. Also feel weird about HB asking for any feelings on Maniac's D1 Durga vote that both rdr and myself used to justify our votes on him. It feels scattered and that all doesn't sit right with me, hence my suspicion.

In terms of other reads that I haven't yet verbalized, I don't have great feelings about Damo and EMC. The latter for the really weak sus on the former (including a vote on damo despite being around at EoD). The former for their D1 Maniac vote.

Lastly, in writing this I realized that I should probably extend my question to Maniac to damo as well. @damo how do your reads of kgray tie into your vote for her? Notably that you said she was leantown last night.

Hmm, i continue to like this chap

[Hellenic Riot]

Lmao sorry. TownHR/scumFlum*

I don't see a reason for him to make me look more closely at Flum if Flum is his teammate

Wait, how does it make you look more closely at Flum?

In a scenario where teacon doesn't get his head blown off at the end of the night my natural reaction would obviously be to be to go back and look at Flum to see how it could be interpreted that I was sheeping him

[Bonatogether]

<snip>

My D2 vote is on HB. I wrote in an earlier post (here: viewtopic.php?p=194636#p194636) about why I'm voting for HB.
To expand on that, I feel very underwhelmed by HB's defense thus far. Asked me about my vote on him, appears to accepted it and moved on. Asked bb about his opinion on teacon's last message, received a vague response about teacon hiding scum by not mentioning them and moved on. Also feel weird about HB asking for any feelings on Maniac's D1 Durga vote that both rdr and myself used to justify our votes on him. It feels scattered and that all doesn't sit right with me, hence my suspicion.

In terms of other reads that I haven't yet verbalized, I don't have great feelings about Damo and EMC. The latter for the really weak sus on the former (including a vote on damo despite being around at EoD). The former for their D1 Maniac vote.

<snip>

Isn't the scum more likely to be organized and moving with a solid direction? They know who's town, and there's a chance that there's a coordinator posting in their QT to keep them acting according to plan. I don't buy this reasoning for a sus on Hamilton.

I agree that emc isn't looking too hot at the moment, but you sus Damo for his maniac vote, even though you also voted maniac d1 and were around at EoD (you posted on page 109, EoD was 110). Why's this?

[Vecna]

Ghug, youre not going to have any good reasoning for your townreads on bozo/neph/EMC either right?

[ghug]

I don't see a reason for him to make me look more closely at Flum if Flum is his teammate

Wait, how does it make you look more closely at Flum?

In a scenario where teacon doesn't get his head blown off at the end of the night my natural reaction would obviously be to be to go back and look at Flum to see how it could be interpreted that I was sheeping him

Got it.

I don't buy it at all though.

[ghug]

Ghug, youre not going to have any good reasoning for your townreads on bozo/neph/EMC either right?

I gave reasons for bozo and Neph in my post on teacon's iso. Neph also felt like a townie attacking me day one.

I've given like four reasons to townread emc at this point. Kgray called me out at length on two of them.

What do you mean by "either"?

[Vecna]

Oh, I know you listed all of that, I was just checking how you'd respond

[ghug]

Oh, I know you listed all of that, I was just checking how you'd respond

How'd I do?

[Vecna]

If youre town I think youre probably pocketed too easily by people attacking you. Or by people named chaqa

[Vecna]

not that im one to speak on such matters, but I just cannot find any common ground between us atm for anything even resembling a gamesolve

[ghug]

If youre town I think youre probably pocketed too easily by people attacking you. Or by people named chaqa

Are you reading the game? I argued at length with Balki the last night because he felt it was unreasonable for me to scumread Flum for scumreading me.

[BunnyGo]

You should reread that in context. Teacon's votes were increasing at the time, so it didn't really make sense that he could be being saved, and I was still on teacon at that time.



This is the second-worst thing I've ever read.

Yeah, but do you agree that your move effectively saved teacon?

This is stupid. She's not omnipotent if she's town. The way she moved onto ND was not scummy, I don't get the impression kgray tried to save teacon. If we killed everyone who voted wrong at some point and only because of that would always lose.

I'm curious: why do you always defend kgray? She's quite competent, and you don't defend most others. But you never let anyone question her. Why is that?

[BunnyGo]

I'll be honest, I forgot this was going on. The holiday weekend has been super busy for me and lots of Among Us has happened. Gonna get caught up soon.

[Vecna]

If youre town I think youre probably pocketed too easily by people attacking you. Or by people named chaqa

Are you reading the game? I argued at length with Balki the last night because he felt it was unreasonable for me to scumread Flum for scumreading me.

yeah im reading, and still waffling a bit more on flum. I did like how he was all confident in how he had towntold enough after leading the wagon on teacon. And I got irritated arguing with him.

Probably blind staring myself on neph still

[ghug]

not that im one to speak on such matters, but I just cannot find any common ground between us atm for anything even resembling a gamesolve

Why do you expect us to be on the same wavelength on day 2?

[Durga]

Yeah, but do you agree that your move effectively saved teacon?

This is stupid. She's not omnipotent if she's town. The way she moved onto ND was not scummy, I don't get the impression kgray tried to save teacon. If we killed everyone who voted wrong at some point and only because of that would always lose.

I'm curious: why do you always defend kgray? She's quite competent, and you don't defend most others. But you never let anyone question her. Why is that?

Pretty sure she answered this question before I commented on it?

[Durga]

If youre town I think youre probably pocketed too easily by people attacking you. Or by people named chaqa

Are you reading the game? I argued at length with Balki the last night because he felt it was unreasonable for me to scumread Flum for scumreading me.

yeah im reading, and still waffling a bit more on flum. I did like how he was all confident in how he had towntold enough after leading the wagon on teacon. And I got irritated arguing with him.

Probably blind staring myself on neph still

I feel like I've liked most of what flum has posted. He's so much less jokey than he was as 3p at least. I can't remember what he was like those two days he was scum before we had to reroll but I feel like he puts in less effort to solve if he was scum.