M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Hamilton Brian]

Here we go, this is too self aware for a town player and when combined with VCA...

##Vote hamilton

This is interesting. Why is recollecting events and being self-aware a negative?

I had you pegged as town on Day 1, but after reviewing your N1 posts, and then this, definitely not sure now. It's as though you're reaching for low-hanging fruit without putting in the effort of a convincing argument.

[worcej]

She also seemed a little defensive to Durga’s comment about Teacon/ND possibly being saved, which is a little interesting in hindsight now.

You should reread that in context. Teacon's votes were increasing at the time, so it didn't really make sense that he could be being saved, and I was still on teacon at that time.

That all being said - I am the most suspicious of kgray. I am sure there is a deep explanation of some sort buried in D2 and I will read it eventually, but she has done enough to warrant ##vote kgray

This is the second-worst thing I've ever read.

Yeah, but do you agree that your move effectively saved teacon?

[kgray]

I am scumreading you. I do see what you're getting at, but I didn't move off of teacon. You did. It's pretty suspicious.

I also made teacon a real wagon in the first place (after not including him on a list of people I wanted to vote, so I had plenty of room to stay away), and I tried to encourage emc to join it.

Yet you left it - why?

I have only read from my last post on, so if you addressed this in the past just say so and I will hunt it down eventually.

Yeah I've talked about it a lot. Basically I had a bunch of people I would have voted for and in the end teacon wasn't at the top.

[kgray]

She also seemed a little defensive to Durga’s comment about Teacon/ND possibly being saved, which is a little interesting in hindsight now.

You should reread that in context. Teacon's votes were increasing at the time, so it didn't really make sense that he could be being saved, and I was still on teacon at that time.

That all being said - I am the most suspicious of kgray. I am sure there is a deep explanation of some sort buried in D2 and I will read it eventually, but she has done enough to warrant ##vote kgray

This is the second-worst thing I've ever read.

Yeah, but do you agree that your move effectively saved teacon?

By itself? No. It helped but it's not like it was the only factor.

[BunnyGo]

I also made teacon a real wagon in the first place (after not including him on a list of people I wanted to vote, so I had plenty of room to stay away), and I tried to encourage emc to join it.

Yet you left it - why?

I have only read from my last post on, so if you addressed this in the past just say so and I will hunt it down eventually.

Yeah I've talked about it a lot. Basically I had a bunch of people I would have voted for and in the end teacon wasn't at the top.

That's hardly honest. You could have moved back and been the deciding vote. Anyone on ND could have moved to teacon. I think it's pretty clear that:

a) You disliked ND so didn't care
b) You claimed to not want to be on a wagon with me, so didn't care

[Vecna]

You're apparently hyper aware of how you looked so why you spooked I sussed you?

flummyboy, if youre actually town, do yourself the favour and convince me of that, as opposed to trying to score cheap points

It's a genuine question.

Being the starter lead on a scum wagon is enough towntelling on my part for now.

I was trying to taunt neph into interacting with me with those statements.

It has nothing to do with me being hyper-aware that I look bad, because I dont think anyone will actually view those events as actually scum-behavior and be able to make that stick.

There was plenty of reasoning I couldve used to vote either Teacon or ND there, but I simply did not have enough time to participate.

[kgray]

Yet you left it - why?

I have only read from my last post on, so if you addressed this in the past just say so and I will hunt it down eventually.

Yeah I've talked about it a lot. Basically I had a bunch of people I would have voted for and in the end teacon wasn't at the top.

That's hardly honest. You could have moved back and been the deciding vote. Anyone on ND could have moved to teacon. I think it's pretty clear that:

a) You disliked ND so didn't care
b) You claimed to not want to be on a wagon with me, so didn't care

Bullshit, what am I not being honest about? I said multiple times I thought ND was scummy. I didn't vote for him only because I disliked him. I didn't like being on a wagon with you so yeah it was a factor.

Stop saying I didn't care just because I wasn't 100% sure who was the scummiest and just because I changed my mind.

[Hamilton Brian]

I also made teacon a real wagon in the first place (after not including him on a list of people I wanted to vote, so I had plenty of room to stay away), and I tried to encourage emc to join it.

Yet EMC opted to avoid it; suggested damo rather than either of the top three wagons.

[Vecna]

That's literally what damo did. I'm asking why you liked damo's vote but not bozo's.

I have no idea which damo vote youre talking about, but I read those people using vastly vastly different metrics.

This one:

##vote kgray

slides off teacon at T-11 and onto ND at T-3

And I think we have different opinions of how bozo scumhunts.

I mean, I think all votes on you are dire, but damo is usually not one to make himself look excessively bad as scum. killbait behavior is probably more town indicative ive come to realize in recent experience.

[celaph]

Vote Count 62.2.01 (a more boring form than Eden's)
Yoyoyozo (3): Jamie, celaph,Flum

I'm a couple pages behind, but celaph is voting without putting out any reads? He's put out a few half hearted posts (2709/136, 2726/137) asking why someone is voting the way they are, and not followed up on them - I don't believe anyone ever responded to them, but I might be wrong there.

##vote celaph

What additional read do you want/expect on my Yoyo vote? I can't read them if they don't talk. For the HB vote I agree that I could have been more forthcoming in my explanation. HB challenged me on it and I've now responded to that.

[kgray]

I also made teacon a real wagon in the first place (after not including him on a list of people I wanted to vote, so I had plenty of room to stay away), and I tried to encourage emc to join it.

Yet EMC opted to avoid it; suggested damo rather than either of the top three wagons.

Great, what does that tell you about emc and how does that have anything to do with your read of me?

[kgray]

I have no idea which damo vote youre talking about, but I read those people using vastly vastly different metrics.

This one:

##vote kgray

slides off teacon at T-11 and onto ND at T-3

And I think we have different opinions of how bozo scumhunts.

I mean, I think all votes on you are dire, but damo is usually not one to make himself look excessively bad as scum. killbait behavior is probably more town indicative ive come to realize in recent experience.

Do you think that vote makes him look excessively bad? I agree that "killbait" behavior looks towny from damo but I don't feel like this is that. There are plenty of people agreeing with his reason.

[brainbomb]

Is there any avenue in which emc is town and is really struggling to relate to people?

[brainbomb]

I feel like nobody is on the same page with me on anything?
all my townreads are just plundering each other

[kgray]

@Flum do you think I'm scum this game?

[brainbomb]

we shouldnt be in the trust the process phase of the game unless we have a consensus set of townreads

[kgray]

we shouldnt be in the trust the process phase of the game unless we have a consensus set of townreads

Who do you think is doing that now?

[ghug]

Is there any avenue in which emc is town and is really struggling to relate to people?

How is he struggling to relate to people?

[Vecna]

This one:



And I think we have different opinions of how bozo scumhunts.

I mean, I think all votes on you are dire, but damo is usually not one to make himself look excessively bad as scum. killbait behavior is probably more town indicative ive come to realize in recent experience.

Do you think that vote makes him look excessively bad? I agree that "killbait" behavior looks towny from damo but I don't feel like this is that. There are plenty of people agreeing with his reason.

I know, its very marginal, and the statement probably comes off a lot more confident than I really am that it is the correct conclusion. I really dont know very well how to read Damo.

I will say he probably couldve packaged that vote to look a lot nicer. He was a bunch more talkative as scum, more wordy and expressive (tripple!).

[Vecna]

I feel like nobody is on the same page with me on anything?
all my townreads are just plundering each other

this should hardly come as a surprise. thats how it always goes, no?