M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Chaqa]

Really? Have you not been reading everything I've been saying about how he echoed a bunch of people's vague scumreads of me and has done nothing but focus on that all game? I also think he scumslipped, but I can't really be sure about that.

Do you really think your alignment is so easy to determine that Chaqa can be this confident in his townread of you?

But why are you so disproportionately confident? Your EoN read on him was literally "duh". I expect Chaqa to be more confident than he should be. It seems weirder from you.

I meant 'duh' as in why I scumread him was 'duh' because I'd been pretty vocal about it. And I don't know why I'm so confident, it just seems really obvious to me. Maybe because I'm the person he's been tunneling and I know I'm town so it's more clear to me that his reasons to scumread me are bad. Maybe it's because people weren't listening to me, and if he were town then I'm sure scum would have supported my incorrect read of him. Or maybe I'm just bitter that people haven't been listening to me and I'm being defensive.

It would help if you started having any thoughts besides “Chaqa is scum I’m not please listen”

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe we should just FORCE everyone to vote for me or kgray today.

That should get people to stop fucking around.

Be careful what you wish for. If you demand that, I will vote for you.

[Jamiet99uk]

it should be used on someone unlikely to be killed so it cannot be construed as trying to save someone that could potentially be scum

@anyone else - thoughts?

I agree. But I still think they should also claim now.

Fishy fishy.

[Chaqa]

Maybe we should just FORCE everyone to vote for me or kgray today.

That should get people to stop fucking around.

Be careful what you wish for. If you demand that, I will vote for you.

:shockedchaqa:

[BunnyGo]

Admittedly this is doubtful but consider DV, FH, PV, daychat and no recruit? That would fit if you are right.

I still think Seth is dodgy though. Fourth man?

If that is the case, then please give me the benefit of the doubt and eliminate him last. There'll be plenty of support for that anyway if its needed.

OK I'll consider that. If Macca moves off as you suggest I will abandon Seth. Meanwhile I'll hold and observe.

I’ll abandon dargo since he may be clueless town. But Seth?! His reads list is maybe his thoughts but it is garbage. He just posted votes and then thoughts that read like “hmm...look I’m thinking and analyzing “. He’s been scummy all game and dodging the day kill. I still think Ghug is town. I’m willing to be wrong. But I want a Seth wagon. ##vote Seth.

[kgray]

K so if anyone besides Chaqa is actually unclear about why I scumread him, please just look through my ISO and search his name. If it's still unclear then I'll summarize my case.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe we should just FORCE everyone to vote for me or kgray today.

That should get people to stop fucking around.

Chaqa, if you have a guilty on kgray, you should probably just claim it.

Fishy fishy.

[ghug]

it should be used on someone unlikely to be killed so it cannot be construed as trying to save someone that could potentially be scum

@anyone else - thoughts?

I agree. But I still think they should also claim now.

Fishy fishy.

I've outlined this at length.

[Chaqa]

What if we do some sort of voting matrix thing.

Like, everyone rank their top 5 scumreads in order, and then we'll weight them and we should have a roughly accurate "objective" scum score thing???

[BunnyGo]

Reread the Seth D1. Still feel the exact same way ive felt all game. So many strong townpings from nearly all his posts.

Hmm. I’ll go check it again. What does his day 4 look like to you? Day 3?

[BunnyGo]

##vote Ghug

Im not sure if I actually prefer this over Chaqa and Rdrivera though. Chaqa's trying to discredit my block of reads by discrediting my ghug read. Rdrivera is trying to discredit my block reads by discrediting my townread of Damo and Kgray.

Oh

I don't oppose a ghug wagon and I think he could definitely be scum, but Chaqa is a lot more likely and I'm not convinced they could be scum together... Would Chaqa "buddy" his teammate that much?

You and chaqa agreeing like this “oh, ghug...good! But (kgray/chaqa) would be better” is creepy as fu*&

[Jamiet99uk]

Note: If the other Faith Healer has ever had a "Fail" result (not a "Roleblocked" result) it is likely that their target was also visited by Dargorygel, since my action never *failed* on any of the three nights - therefore I know that I have never visited the same target as either the other FH, or the FV. Perhaps the other FH will find this useful, I just thought I'd mention it.

[BunnyGo]

What if we do some sort of voting matrix thing.

Like, everyone rank their top 5 scumreads in order, and then we'll weight them and we should have a roughly accurate "objective" scum score thing???

[Jamiet99uk]

What if we do some sort of voting matrix thing.

Like, everyone rank their top 5 scumreads in order, and then we'll weight them and we should have a roughly accurate "objective" scum score thing???

This would be completely objective if not for the fact that between 3 and 4 scum would be in the sample group.

[BunnyGo]

Note: If the other Faith Healer has ever had a "Fail" result (not a "Roleblocked" result) it is likely that their target was also visited by Dargorygel, since my action never *failed* on any of the three nights - therefore I know that I have never visited the same target as either the other FH, or the FV. Perhaps the other FH will find this useful, I just thought I'd mention it.

Since we know who got fruit the first two nights...it didn’t fail.

Only way it fails is if other healer tried to save Maniac last night. In which case I’d strongly consider asking them to claim.

[ghug]

What if we do some sort of voting matrix thing.

Like, everyone rank their top 5 scumreads in order, and then we'll weight them and we should have a roughly accurate "objective" scum score thing???

Hate this post

[ghug]

Note: If the other Faith Healer has ever had a "Fail" result (not a "Roleblocked" result) it is likely that their target was also visited by Dargorygel, since my action never *failed* on any of the three nights - therefore I know that I have never visited the same target as either the other FH, or the FV. Perhaps the other FH will find this useful, I just thought I'd mention it.

The governor is also protective.

[kgray]

##vote Ghug

Im not sure if I actually prefer this over Chaqa and Rdrivera though. Chaqa's trying to discredit my block of reads by discrediting my ghug read. Rdrivera is trying to discredit my block reads by discrediting my townread of Damo and Kgray.

Oh

I don't oppose a ghug wagon and I think he could definitely be scum, but Chaqa is a lot more likely and I'm not convinced they could be scum together... Would Chaqa "buddy" his teammate that much?

You and chaqa agreeing like this “oh, ghug...good! But (kgray/chaqa) would be better” is creepy as fu*&

What does this mean? You think Chaqa is okay with a ghug daykill?

[BunnyGo]

not how it works, i think?

##call gm: if the night governor target is daykilled, will it result in no kill or will the second highest wagon die?

Next highest wagon

So guys, how about we get like 7 votes on kgray, and 4 votes on like Rivera, Seth, Bunny, or me, and then we should be safe.

Is your read on kgray strong enough that her jumping to Ghug easily means anything to you?

[Jamiet99uk]

Note: If the other Faith Healer has ever had a "Fail" result (not a "Roleblocked" result) it is likely that their target was also visited by Dargorygel, since my action never *failed* on any of the three nights - therefore I know that I have never visited the same target as either the other FH, or the FV. Perhaps the other FH will find this useful, I just thought I'd mention it.

Since we know who got fruit the first two nights...it didn’t fail.

Only way it fails is if other healer tried to save Maniac last night. In which case I’d strongly consider asking them to claim.

...and if Maniac was also the Fruit recipient, I assume you mean.