M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Vecna]

It's true, it isn't AI. I'm still stuck on you for your posts when sugar lows affected your mental state. I probably need a reset there.

It wasn't JUST that you're fruit vendor. It was that you were fruit vendor asking for double voter to claim while saying "our doctors can protect him." It was as if you completely forgot the one application of your role (just after you posted you HAD an idea how to play your role).

did i miss something about how the FV works?

FV is protective. Read FH.

it doesnt protect shit. It just counts as protective for how I see it with my voyeurism lol

[dargorygel]

You did never explain your "use plan' either. The only 'use plan' I see could be to negate a doctor save...

I did describe that. My "use plan" was to use the FV to send out fruit to my top townreads... and if/when they eventually townread me, I could be confirmed. This was NOT a 'wow what a great plan' idea. I just couldn't figure out what to do with it. I expected that only scum would announce they got a fruit. Mostly, now in retrospect, because of the way I saw my use of fruit. SO when I sent my fruit to my top towhnread, and he ANNOUNCED it... i had to go back and read him. I still didn't see scum in him. AND the reasons that he (and others) gave about the use of my FV made some sense. But with some hesitation I sent fruit again.... to my top town read. And THIS person acted Like I had hinted/stated was my expectation (silence... but with a subtle hint) But having hinted/stated, I wasn't sure how to read it. Fruit Vendor meet Wifom. The room seemed to think I should not muddy the movement-waters at night with fruit, so I did not send it N3.

Ehm......what?

You need to keep sending fruit every single night. To a strong townread preferably.

It helps any potential trackers that we do have narrow down scum. If you cannot be the one doing scum actions, it lowers the pool of people that can.

Ergo, sending fruit is pro-town

Trackers shouldnt be on you regardless

I'll rethink that for tonight, if i live through the day. I was convinced (hmmm... .by Jamie and kgray) to NOT send fruit.

[dargorygel]

did i miss something about how the FV works?

FV is protective. Read FH.

it doesnt protect shit. It just counts as protective for how I see it with my voyeurism lol

Ummmmm... blink... have you been WATCHING me?... ::

[dargorygel]

Thoughts on bunny?

[damo666]

You did never explain your "use plan' either. The only 'use plan' I see could be to negate a doctor save...

You probably are misunderstanding the FV action. It does nothing beside just sent some flavourtext to a person, it has the potential to be flagged by my role, and it prevents scum from doing both fruit'ing and faction-action in the same night.

Its just a negative utility role for scum if it gets down to 1 person

So why would they choose it at all? I noted that they FV can't do anything BUT FV... so it just LIMITS them?

It negates FH. That's useful to scum.

[damo666]

did i miss something about how the FV works?

FV is protective. Read FH.

it doesnt protect shit. It just counts as protective for how I see it with my voyeurism lol

It negates the FH !!!

[Vecna]

Considering moving to bunny.
Could he have been sent in like the cavalry to ease pressure of the wagons?

I think he's town and his catchup was town

The fact both Bunny and Damo seem to think the FV actually is a protective role is either dumbtelling (unlikely) or they just werent on that scum chat when the role was discussed.

It is a pretty bad role for scum to pick, and I dont think they would ever.

Much better shit to nab for free or bonus points.

[dargorygel]

So if I negate the FH... should I then NOT give fruit to my top townread, in case they need to be FHed?

[damo666]

Thoughts on bunny?

He seems very sleepy.

[Vecna]

You probably are misunderstanding the FV action. It does nothing beside just sent some flavourtext to a person, it has the potential to be flagged by my role, and it prevents scum from doing both fruit'ing and faction-action in the same night.

Its just a negative utility role for scum if it gets down to 1 person

So why would they choose it at all? I noted that they FV can't do anything BUT FV... so it just LIMITS them?

It negates FH. That's useful to scum.

Oh, I actually missed that interaction. oops

[dargorygel]

Considering moving to bunny.
Could he have been sent in like the cavalry to ease pressure of the wagons?

I think he's town and his catchup was town

The fact both Bunny and Damo seem to think the FV actually is a protective role is either dumbtelling (unlikely) or they just werent on that scum chat when the role was discussed.

It is a pretty bad role for scum to pick, and I dont think they would ever.

Much better shit to nab for free or bonus points.

Sigh
You were supposed to agree with me.

[Vecna]

well, I was the sleepy one in this regard

Imagine being schooled on mechanics by damo, yikes

[dargorygel]

This discussion has made Bunny's assumption make a bit more sense to me. But only a BIT (glaring down my tunnel at Bunny)

[damo666]

So if I negate the FH... should I then NOT give fruit to my top townread, in case they need to be FHed?

If you think Jamie is town don't send fruit to him. If we have both FH then there is a slight risk in sending fruit but very slight. The NK, FH2 and FV targets would need to be coincident. Unlikely.

[Vecna]

why did you give vitamins on N2 then?

[damo666]

well, I was the sleepy one in this regard

Imagine being schooled on mechanics by damo, yikes

[Vecna]

who* i meant

[Vecna]

Recruit
LH1
LH2
Diarist
White flag

Wouldve been so good with a competent team

Its that im townreading Jamiet strongly, else the way theyve been nightkilling people to make us believe the FH's are town wouldve been a pretty great strategy.

[Vecna]

##vote Chaqa

[Vecna]

But yeah, I can see why damo/bunny is susp of you Darg

Your role is effectively an unlimited strongman that can kill anything except the commuter.

Downside being ofcourse that if its used that way you instantly die in a massclaim