M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[worcej]

Well, RIP Flum, and sorry for scumreading you - but at least we still have your voting power.

Seems that was a TvT EoD. Jolly good work Ghug, bravo. Now I suppose I'll have to suffer you continuing to tunnel me for a couple more phases at least.

Bo_Sox voting me while saying he didn't scumread me was pretty damn scuzzy.

##CALL GM: Is Hellenic Riot going to be replaced?

Due to the low amount of replacements available, I am leaning towards issuing a warning for missing the vote.

If I change my mind, you'll know.

[seth24c]

Sorry Flum. All in all at least this gives us the extra town vote for an extra day vs if we had lost a different town role.

[seth24c]

I think the more likely player saved among the main few was teacon, personally, and that would implicate kgray. I don't have an independent read of either of them, though.

You think this because you townread jamie?

[Jamiet99uk]

Well, RIP Flum, and sorry for scumreading you - but at least we still have your voting power.

Seems that was a TvT EoD. Jolly good work Ghug, bravo. Now I suppose I'll have to suffer you continuing to tunnel me for a couple more phases at least.

Bo_Sox voting me while saying he didn't scumread me was pretty damn scuzzy.

##CALL GM: Is Hellenic Riot going to be replaced?

I fully intend to vote you tomorrow again. Flum’s flip makes you look so much worse.

Why does it?

We're both town and we were wrong about each other.

[ghug]

Seth jumping in late was something he did last game, so I'm not going to scumread him for it. Maniac is similar.

I don't like kgray's vote at all.

I don't think the wagon makes exceptional sense as a saving of Jamie. I tend to have more issues with the people who jumped on early than the people who jumped in late.

Since Jamie is incapable of reading between lines: yes I still scumread you, just not the push on you.

[ghug]

I think the more likely player saved among the main few was teacon, personally, and that would implicate kgray. I don't have an independent read of either of them, though.

You think kgray was bussing teacon and then saved him?

[Jamiet99uk]

Seth jumping in late was something he did last game, so I'm not going to scumread him for it. Maniac is similar.

I don't like kgray's vote at all.

I don't think the wagon makes exceptional sense as a saving of Jamie. I tend to have more issues with the people who jumped on early than the people who jumped in late.

Since Jamie is incapable of reading between lines: yes I still scumread you, just not the push on you.

Please continue to mention my name in every post or I will assume you've started townreading me suddenly.

[bo_sox48]

I think the more likely player saved among the main few was teacon, personally, and that would implicate kgray. I don't have an independent read of either of them, though.

You think this because you townread jamie?

I don't understand why a brazen save attempt would wait until the last 10 minutes of the day when it could have been done much more subtly 30 minutes, for example, before the end of the day, or perhaps even further back. You and Maniac in particular came from non-wagons, so if it was either of you, it could have happened at literally any time without drawing any suspicion at all, so why wait until eyes are on Jamie to do it if it's a save?

[bo_sox48]

I think the more likely player saved among the main few was teacon, personally, and that would implicate kgray. I don't have an independent read of either of them, though.

You think kgray was bussing teacon and then saved him?

I did not say that. I said I think that is more likely than Jamie having just been saved, but I also said that I have no independent read of either kgray or teacon. Were teacon to flip scum later, I think it would be worth looking closely at it, though.

[bo_sox48]

The only late Flum voter that makes even a little bit of sense as an attempt to save Jamie would be kgray, so I suppose if either Jamie or teacon flip scum, kgray is worth a reread.

[ghug]

I think the more likely player saved among the main few was teacon, personally, and that would implicate kgray. I don't have an independent read of either of them, though.

You think kgray was bussing teacon and then saved him?

I did not say that. I said I think that is more likely than Jamie having just been saved, but I also said that I have no independent read of either kgray or teacon. Were teacon to flip scum later, I think it would be worth looking closely at it, though.

Let me be more explicit: this would entail kgray first bussing and then saving teacon. I find this unlikely. Why do you disagree?

[bo_sox48]

I think the more likely player saved among the main few was teacon, personally, and that would implicate kgray. I don't have an independent read of either of them, though.

You think this because you townread jamie?

I don't understand why a brazen save attempt would wait until the last 10 minutes of the day when it could have been done much more subtly 30 minutes, for example, before the end of the day, or perhaps even further back. You and Maniac in particular came from non-wagons, so if it was either of you, it could have happened at literally any time without drawing any suspicion at all, so why wait until eyes are on Jamie to do it if it's a save?

Teacon also came from a non-wagon, for what it's worth, but I don't see his vote as impactful.

[bo_sox48]

You think kgray was bussing teacon and then saved him?

I did not say that. I said I think that is more likely than Jamie having just been saved, but I also said that I have no independent read of either kgray or teacon. Were teacon to flip scum later, I think it would be worth looking closely at it, though.

Let me be more explicit: this would entail kgray first bussing and then saving teacon. I find this unlikely. Why do you disagree?

I don't. I have not said that I find it particularly likely, but it is more likely than Jamie having been saved by people in the final 10 minutes who could have easily and with fewer eyes watching done so earlier in the day.

[dargorygel]

RIP flum.
I was wrong. Very wrong.

[Hamilton Brian]

I am glad everything is so much clearer now.
(It's not; the EOD is a bit of a trainwreck).

[ghug]

RIP flum.
I was wrong. Very wrong.

Darg, if you're scum, you should just tell me now.

I know you don't like it.

[Vecna]

oh right, rip, this eod is now 2 hours earlier than it usually is.

[Vecna]

on a positive note, that means i can totally procrastinate on catching up on 40 pages.

[Jamiet99uk]

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[quote=dargorygel post_id=185456 time=1603921118 user_id=132]
RIP flum.
I was wrong. Very wrong.
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Darg, if you're scum, you should just tell me now.

I know you don't like it.
[/quote]

Hurray, Ghug townreads me now.

[ghug]

on a positive note, that means i can totally procrastinate on catching up on 40 pages.

No do it now please
I so enjoy your catch ups
And work is boring