M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Hamilton Brian]

##VOTE JAMIE

Back to where I started.

[BunnyGo]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

The members of the wagor, or voting teacon? I can see why teacon is causing concern for them. Even though I currently townlean.

[kgray]

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

How sure you are about Jamiet? I am tempted to join his wagon and push Teacon next.

It's day one, and guak always said that if I'm ever right day one, I'm scum (see last game), but he's giving me far and away the strongest scum vibes.

• Opportunistically tried to push a ghug/Flum day.

• Spent more time trolling me than being pissed off at me.

• Making arguments about wagons instead of the people on them.

• Not actively pushing *for* someone, which is odd.

I'm not sure how much I agree with your first point, because that seems like something Jamie would do as either alignment (or more likely as town, even) and I am not convinced that point 2 is alignment indicative.

But, I do think your last two arguments are valid. When I have seen town!Jamie on the block, he has fought harder to survive and has been much easier to read under pressure. Him disappearing now is really odd.

[bo_sox48]

Let's make a fourth wagon.

##VOTE bunny

Why

Sheeping a townread

[BunnyGo]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

Why is Vecna gone? He sh**posted massively for 24 hours and then disappeared?

[kgray]

But what do you mean "weird push" on the teacon wagon? I'm not sure I saw it as weird. Questioning, maybe looking deeply in it. Do you think they were drawing attention to it to perhaps push more people over to it?

You think Jamie was looking deeply into the teacon wagon? What makes you think that?

[BunnyGo]

I am walking home and I’ve lost the web address to the bot. Is it still for votes for Flum And three for T con?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/front_page

[kgray]

##VOTE JAMIE

Back to where I started.

Why do you think Jamie is scum?

[BunnyGo]

@Flum and @teacon...knowing that D1s are usually a crapshoot.

Why do you feel you should not be eliminated today?

Why are you not asking @Jamie too? This stinks.

[Hamilton Brian]

But what do you mean "weird push" on the teacon wagon? I'm not sure I saw it as weird. Questioning, maybe looking deeply in it. Do you think they were drawing attention to it to perhaps push more people over to it?

You think Jamie was looking deeply into the teacon wagon? What makes you think that?

Consider it an unfortunate case of Brian-speak. They named the wagon, identified who was on it, remarking how long, etc. THat's it.

[BunnyGo]

Is the thread dead because the east coasties never learned to deal like us cool folk?

Yes. This is my prime childcare time.

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE JAMIE

Back to where I started.

[Hamilton Brian]

@Flum and @teacon...knowing that D1s are usually a crapshoot.

Why do you feel you should not be eliminated today?

Why are you not asking @Jamie too? This stinks.

I was getting to it, Bunny. Hold your cottontail.

@Jamie, anything more compelling than, "don't daykill me?"

[BunnyGo]

@Flum and @teacon...knowing that D1s are usually a crapshoot.

Why do you feel you should not be eliminated today?

Why are you not asking @Jamie too? This stinks.

I was getting to it, Bunny. Hold your cottontail.

@Jamie, anything more compelling than, "don't daykill me?"

WHY DID YOU VOTE TO END on Jamie when you first voted him?!

[teacon7]

@kgray - Did I miss a question you asked me? What else are you looking for?

What about Rivera specifically being Vanilla makes you think he's scum? It seems to me like you would be pushing that slot no matter who it was, which is what I don't like.

I think scum would pick the PV as a way to hide a "likely to be fearkilled" candidate. rivera fits that description, he's even said as much:

%%vote Durga, let's kill her D1 so I can survive past N1.

Again, here he is thinking about what would happen if a mafia member is in the "likely NK" category:

I was giving a second thought and I would have considered the Public Vanilla instead of the Fruit Vendor if scum have someone that isn't a likely NK.

He seems to see the PV role differently than I do. I think the PV would be a great place for a person who us usually NK'd early to hide when they're scum. It explains why they're still alive ... what scumteam nk's the vanilla?

I have really longhand probability math on it that I didn't post because no one cares for longhand math.


related to rdriv, but not the PV question, was him looking uncharacteristically angry in this post. I don't remember him using foul language, but i haven't played in a while. why is he angry?

##vote rdriveria

It's about time town did some bussing, scum normally have all the fun

Read the fucking setup.

Or we are both scum and you are really bussing me?

[Hamilton Brian]

WHY DID YOU VOTE TO END on Jamie when you first voted him?!

Not sure you were around...probably hadn't subbed Durga yet...but it was all under the Hammer the First 24 Hours plan that Jamie proposed.

[BunnyGo]

Teacon, you seem a nice guy. But I'm starting to get the headache I think others get when reading my writing. Can you give me a 3 sentence tldr;?

[Fluminator]

I'm actually a bit surprised this Jamiet wagon is working

[Chaqa]

I'm actually a bit surprised this Jamiet wagon is working

That's a little sus.

[bo_sox48]

He seems to see the PV role differently than I do. I think the PV would be a great place for a person who us usually NK'd early to hide when they're scum. It explains why they're still alive ... what scumteam nk's the vanilla?

I have really longhand probability math on it that I didn't post because no one cares for longhand math.

You can always argue that they're hunting for something or someone in particular and it's not you. You don't have to take a powerless role in order to get suspicion off. Besides, rdrivera is not always a fearkill early. His N1 death last game was not a fearkill, if I remember correctly.