M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Jamiet99uk]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

The GM made me un-mute you, so I guess I'll reply to you.

Rdrivera voted for Teacon after Teacon answered the question that Bozo, Vecna and I were asking.

Teacon's answer was on page 45, for your reference. I direct you there.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am walking home and I’ve lost the web address to the bot. Is it still for votes for Flum And three for T con?

http://mafia.peterlund.se

Flum 4
Teacon 3
Me 3

[Jamiet99uk]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Teacon's weird explanations (and lack thereof) of his rivera vote are the most suspicious thing I've seen so far. I did not see him give any reason to vote for rivera besides the fact that he was revealed to be vanilla, and teacon's math (which was apparently the basis for that vote) didn't even hold up.

Ok, so you still scumread him.
Thanks for confirming.
You did notice he replied to me, I hope.

[Jamiet99uk]

I need to reply to some urgent emails. I'll be back in half an hour or so.

Don't daykill me; I'm town, and you'll regret losing me (even if you don't like my style).

[kgray]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Teacon's weird explanations (and lack thereof) of his rivera vote are the most suspicious thing I've seen so far. I did not see him give any reason to vote for rivera besides the fact that he was revealed to be vanilla, and teacon's math (which was apparently the basis for that vote) didn't even hold up.

Ok, so you still scumread him.
Thanks for confirming.
You did notice he replied to me, I hope.

If you are referring to him saying that he'd pick the vanilla role as scum, then yes I did see that. But if teacon isn't scum then he has no idea if they did pick the vanilla role, even if that's what he would have done, and he has still not given an actual reason to vote for rivera.

[rdrivera2005]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Why this specific wagons concern you? What you see so towny on Teacon?

He tried to push my wagon with a really bad argument that I don't feel is town motivated. Kgray showed the same concern and Vecna haven't post for a long time. So, what is weird with this wagon?

[ghug]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

The GM made me un-mute you, so I guess I'll reply to you.

Rdrivera voted for Teacon after Teacon answered the question that Bozo, Vecna and I were asking.

Teacon's answer was on page 45, for your reference. I direct you there.

Teacon's only answer on page 45 was to Bozo's survey. Is that what you were talking about?

It's not clear to me that any of the votes were based on the nonanswering of the survey. rd's, as you note came after. Vecna and kgray seem to have voted for general scumminess and math oddities.

[ghug]

I need to reply to some urgent emails. I'll be back in half an hour or so.

Don't daykill me; I'm town, and you'll regret losing me (even if you don't like my style).

Nobody has ever regretted losing you.

[Donny Dude]

Vote count 1.5
Fluminator -(4) BunnyGo, Jamiet99uk, dargorygel, damo666
Jamiet99uk -(3) ghug, Fluminator, Chaqa
teacon7 -(3)Vecna, kgray, rdrivera2005
Vecna -(1) bo_sox48
bo_sox48 -(1) Maniac
Unvote -(1) Hamilton Brian
rdrivera2005 -(1) teacon7
ghug -(1) Macca573
BunnyGo -(1) bozotheclown
58 minutes until end of day approximately.
Hellenic Riot and Seth have not voted yet.

[rdrivera2005]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

How sure you are about Jamiet? I am tempted to join his wagon and push Teacon next.

[ghug]

The three people on the Teacon7 wagon have been sitting there for a long time, with no further movement. Since then Teacon has answered the questions that were put to him.

That wagon concerns me.

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

How sure you are about Jamiet? I am tempted to join his wagon and push Teacon next.

It's day one, and guak always said that if I'm ever right day one, I'm scum (see last game), but he's giving me far and away the strongest scum vibes.

• Opportunistically tried to push a ghug/Flum day.

• Spent more time trolling me than being pissed off at me.

• Making arguments about wagons instead of the people on them.

• Not actively pushing *for* someone, which is odd.

[Hamilton Brian]

@Flum and @teacon...knowing that D1s are usually a crapshoot.

Why do you feel you should not be eliminated today?

[rdrivera2005]

Vecna's been gone, as you pointed out yourself and defended him for. rd has an well. Both of these are typical. What questions has teacon adequately answered?

You're doing the thing scum HR does where you cast vague aspersions on a wagon as if it's not made up of discrete voters.

How sure you are about Jamiet? I am tempted to join his wagon and push Teacon next.

It's day one, and guak always said that if I'm ever right day one, I'm scum (see last game), but he's giving me far and away the strongest scum vibes.

• Opportunistically tried to push a ghug/Flum day.

• Spent more time trolling me than being pissed off at me.

• Making arguments about wagons instead of the people on them.

• Not actively pushing *for* someone, which is odd.

I was townreading him based on his overall play being relaxed. I usually think scum Jamiet is more all over the thread. But this weird push on Teacon wagon made me think I might be wrong.

[teacon7]

@kgray - Did I miss a question you asked me? What else are you looking for?

[Hamilton Brian]

I was townreading him based on his overall play being relaxed. I usually think scum Jamiet is more all over the thread. But this weird push on Teacon wagon made me think I might be wrong.

I don't think his play is so much relaxed; to me it feel random with hyperfocus on some things for a period of time. The Hammer of the first 24 hours; the back and forth with ghug, and more I'm sure. However, there were elements that make me think, "town." Not able to be thoroughly clear or convinced.

[kgray]

@kgray - Did I miss a question you asked me? What else are you looking for?

What about Rivera specifically being Vanilla makes you think he's scum? It seems to me like you would be pushing that slot no matter who it was, which is what I don't like.

[bo_sox48]

Let's make a fourth wagon.

##VOTE bunny

[ghug]

Is the thread dead because the east coasties never learned to deal like us cool folk?

[ghug]

Let's make a fourth wagon.

##VOTE bunny

Why

[Hamilton Brian]

But what do you mean "weird push" on the teacon wagon? I'm not sure I saw it as weird. Questioning, maybe looking deeply in it. Do you think they were drawing attention to it to perhaps push more people over to it?