MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[Foxcastle]

This is dumb. This is scum trying to 1) waste Town's time during the night phase by wrangling a dumb vote, and 2) get a PR counterclaim that they can actually NK.

Either Ike is scum, in which case we should lynch him (and this also explains why he hasn't been NK'd), or...

Ike is the Doctor, or...

Ike is the shittiest cop for making himself vulnerable to the NK without divulging his scans for town to use.

I don't see any reasonable explanation for why Ike is still alive if he's town. Yes, he's an un-CC'd PR, because—against all odds—our actual PRs are not so stupid as to come bumbling out with with counterclaims.

I think it's time to lynch Ike.

1) Oh yeah, I'm for sure wasting towns time because we always get so much discussion done at night.
2) I would wait until the last few minutes to post so if someone did counter claim they could wait literally a few seconds until D4 starts and are safe from the N3 NK, but this point is moot because of the next point
Next Point) There's not going to be a counter claim, scum wouldn't waste a member to counter claim since we obviously have no clue who they are or what were doing

I'm glad this silly voting thing hasn't at all hindered the two pages of discussion in the last 5 hours

I'm sure you are glad... I'm not saying that the night phase is when Town gets brilliant, but we are not even debating your scuminess or the validity of your PR claim, or even who else might be scum. We're wasting time talking about the process for how you assert your claim. We're letting scum run the discussion here.

[RagingIke297]

1) Oh yeah, I'm for sure wasting towns time because we always get so much discussion done at night.
2) I would wait until the last few minutes to post so if someone did counter claim they could wait literally a few seconds until D4 starts and are safe from the N3 NK, but this point is moot because of the next point
Next Point) There's not going to be a counter claim, scum wouldn't waste a member to counter claim since we obviously have no clue who they are or what were doing

I'm glad this silly voting thing hasn't at all hindered the two pages of discussion in the last 5 hours

I'm sure you are glad... I'm not saying that the night phase is when Town gets brilliant, but we are not even debating your scuminess or the validity of your PR claim, or even who else might be scum. We're wasting time talking about the process for how you assert your claim. We're letting scum run the discussion here.

Change it then, what should we be discussing Foxy? Just me or should we be talking about other things too? Do you have any questions I can answer?

[Foxcastle]

How scummy do you find Balki?

[Foxcastle]

DemonRHK doesn't want to lynch you because you're an un-CC'd PR claim. Do you think that's a good strategy? Do you think we get more information by lynching you?

[Foxcastle]

Peterlund had some good pressure earlier that he started to crack under. Does poor reaction to—what was it, 2 votes? point to scum?

[peterlund]

6 of 11 Currently:
ghug
Rd
Fox
Tham
Jamie
TrPrado

Put me up onto this list. I also would like to see some explanation what this PR claim means.

Was Balki also in favour?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Yep -- I'm in favor of Ike picking a PR to claim.

[RagingIke297]

How scummy do you find Balki?

I don't find him particularly scummy, however I do slightly suspect the RB on night 1 given that last night went unclaimed

DemonRHK doesn't want to lynch you because you're an un-CC'd PR claim. Do you think that's a good strategy? Do you think we get more information by lynching you?

I think it's a good strategy for the time being, I've said it multiple times I think that scum either don't believe me or are playing with me and the public opinion grows more and more against me each day that does by that nothing happens. Even when I come out with my full claim I'm not going to be unlynchable, why would scum change what they're doing? Seems to be working to me.

Peterlund had some good pressure earlier that he started to crack under. Does poor reaction to—what was it, 2 votes? point to scum?

I do find it interesting that Yav and Peter have been not so cool under very little pressure, but I don't know if that is indicative of alignment.

[Foxcastle]

In favor of Ike claiming:

ghug
Rd
Fox
Tham
Jamie
TrPrado
Peterlund
Balki

8/11

[RagingIke297]

6 of 11 Currently:
ghug
Rd
Fox
Tham
Jamie
TrPrado

Put me up onto this list. I also would like to see some explanation what this PR claim means.

Was Balki also in favour?

I'm coming out with my actual role instead of being a vague "PR" if this vote passes

[dargorygel]

Go ahead Ike, claim your PR.
I admit I am still confused by all this. If Ike is really a claimant, why hasn't scum killed him? If he is not, what good does this do?
The closest I can get is that maybe, if Ike is scum, they hope this would give Ike a 'reason' that scum didn't NK him... that they are seeing that he is distracting. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

ghug
Rd
Fox
Tham
Jamie
TrPrado
Peterlund
Balki
Dargorygel

9 votes

[dargorygel]

Sorry I've been gone. Real life issues.
My scum list for tomorrow is peter and Jamie (primarily because of their emotive over-reactions to pressure) and Ezio, who continues to play hidey-scum.
Snowy looks better to me...
Balki is worth looking at.

And of course, Ike is on some sort of list. His reveal and the NK will make more clear, I hope.

Won't be on EoN...

[dargorygel]

(actually, I shouldn't lump peter and Jamie together... peter reacted to some shade. Jamie got frustrated because people weren't listening to him. Those ARE different things. So I am less sure about Jamie.)

[Balki Bartokomous]

@RagingIke,

Considering that everyone who has weighed in at all is in favor of you revealing your PR in the final seconds of this phase, I think you should definitely do that.

If anyone is opposed, they should say so.

[peterlund]

I am falling a sleep here. So I post my scum reads an go to bed now. Have fun.

Reads eon3.
scum: Balki Bo Snowy Ezio tham
scummish: Ike Jamie
Null: yav fox prado
townish: darg ghug. rdriv
Town: DrCJG RHK

[Jamiet99uk]

I agree with what Balki just said.

Part of me is concerned that Ike set a high threshold of 11 to give him room to back out of it.

[RagingIke297]

@RagingIke,

Considering that everyone who has weighed in at all is in favor of you revealing your PR in the final seconds of this phase, I think you should definitely do that.

If anyone is opposed, they should say so.

Funny you should say that, I was going to write something up to that effect. I will be revealing unless several people come forward against it

[ghug]

Oh look, Ike's view is going to fail. Bet noooobody saw that coming.

Ike, I'll be voting you to open the day if you don't claim. I encourage others to follow suit.

Scum
---------------
Ike
Ezio
Tham
Fox
RHK
DrC
Prado
Balki
Peter
Yav
Bo
Darg
Rd
Jamie
Snowy
ghug
---------------
Town

[Foxcastle]

Sorry, I'm walking home in the rain with an umbrella in one hand and my phone in the other trying to do EON reads. So this is off the top of my head, and not very well organized.

In addition to Ike, i think Balki and Tham could be scum. I'm backing off Snowy and Peter for now. Ezio could be. Ghug, Yavuz, and TrPrado seem Town. Demon seems scummy to me, but is probably Town.