M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

Flum, have you ever been scum in a game with me?

[ghug]

Durga, for real why are you posting at night?

[Durga]

Durga, for real why are you posting at night?

Why the fuck are you not? And why are you so focused on just me? Don't trust I have a bomb? Feel free to nk me

##vote ghug

[Donny Dude]

@HR I explain my Maniac read in my post against damo. I have explained my flash read pretty clearly, although I admit I now have doubts because of how many of my townreads are pushing him.

My scumread on seth was always gut-feeling based on eod1, and after actually looking at eod more closely, damo was the one who jumped out to me so he's who I focused on. Once damo flipped town, bozo made a post about seth's posts that I agreed with, which is why I switched there before settling on Vecna.

Tom's overall play with the gun was just a lot of fun and chaos and I enjoyed it, hence why I called it great.

You make a lot of statements, but I'm curious as to what specifically you think is scum-motivated in my play. Because from my pov, this vote is either based on pretty much air, or it's to get me to actually participate a bit more, in which case good job.

What is your read on seth now?

[ghug]

Durga, for real why are you posting at night?

Why the fuck are you not? And why are you so focused on just me? Don't trust I have a bomb? Feel free to nk me

##vote ghug

For the same reason everyone else isn't. Your turn.

Why do you think I'm scum?

[Fluminator]

Flum, have you ever been scum in a game with me?

Does the discord game that got deleted count?

[ghug]

Flum, have you ever been scum in a game with me?

Does the discord game that got deleted count?

Wait were we scum together in that? No in any case.

[Fluminator]

Oh I've never been scum with you.
I'm never scum in general.
Whenever I am the game literally breaks.

[ghug]

Oh I've never been scum with you.
I'm never scum in general.
Whenever I am the game literally breaks.

Your haiku form needs some work

[Fluminator]

Ghuggles you are good
Burdened with proficiency
You have failed the test

[kgray]

RIP Vecna and Tom.

I'm sorry for my part in Vecna's untimely death. I'm pretty shit this game tbh. I'm just going to sheep Durga today and hope that she's town and has better reads than I do.

No rb or anything

##vote Flash

Why Durga? Is she your strongest townread?

[bozotheclown]

I reread seth's D2, and I do not know what Vecna saw to make him change his mind on seth during the day.

Why do you care what Vecna thinks.

Vecna was pushing TrPrado or BunnyGo over seth D2 EOD and likely saved seth from the DK as a result, so I was trying to understand why.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE seth

I think I have repeated my reasons for suspecting seth enough.

[kgray]

##vote Maniac

His thought progression this game makes ZERO sense, especially when you look at it in context of his D4 voting.

Here are his Vecna reads:

D2 Maniac townread Vecna for the timing of his summit vote and said it would take convincing for him to vote for Vecna. His "scumread" of Vecna came on D4 from what he apparently thought was a scumslip by Vecna in this exchange:

I think everything summit did D1 was hesitant and reserved (except that random and awkward "nanook is town af" comment) so him waiting to actually place a vote says nothing about Maniac, imo.

If I believed in scum slips, this would be a good one

I believe in scumslips ##vote Vecna

although Maniac never explained why he thought Vecna scumslipped. He then voted for damo before Tom's gunshot EOD but said he'd switch to Vecna if that became a thing - again, with the only explanation of him changing from townreading Vecna to voting him being a "scumslip" that didn't happen.

He later includes Vecna in a list of people with sketchy D1 voting and a claim that Vecna wasn't bussing, even though he'd already townread Vecna *because* of his D1 voting. Just compare this post with this post.

Now, let's look at Maniac's read of flash:

In his EoD1 readslist, all he says about flash is that there's "not enough info." D2 he votes flash "for reasons." Begining of D4 he votes flash here because he thinks flash might be scum, and ends up back on flash's wagon with 14 minutes left.

BUT: At 6 minutes left, he changes from flash to Vecna, which puts Vecna in the lead, and then he rallies (or tries to rally) people to get on Vecna last-minute. There's literally no explanation of why he thought Vecna was scum OR why he thought flash is town.

Oh, and as soon as Vecna flips town he's suddenly okay with voting flash again.

[ghug]

Ghuggles you are good
Burdened with proficiency
You have failed the test

Flummy did you read
The game you GMed? Also
Vecna was scummy

[seth24c]

##VOTE seth

I think I have repeated my reasons for suspecting seth enough.

Wow dude. I seriously think you're town but you're becoming the best player for scum.

[seth24c]

##Vote maniac. It is clear now that the reason summit wasn't saved by his scum partners because the counterwagon was another scum member.

[seth24c]

Although tbf I also usually catch mafia most places I play, so maybe I wouldn’t feel the need here.

Do us a favor and show your great skills instead of talking about them.

[seth24c]

I'd love to know your math thinking behind this vote

A tie wasn’t possible since there was an odd number of people and vecna sounded town.

So why did it take you until almost the final second to make any attempt to save Vecna, if he sounded town? Did he only sound town right at the end? Why delay your vote until his death was inevitable?

Couldn't tell if he was trying to pocket me or make himself look good on my flip. Clearly as it turned out he was just defending his town reads. Near the end he was clearly town (First time I could tell for sure) and I saw that and that the vote couldn't be tied so I voted hoping others would also switch there vote. Knew it was a longshot but it was worth trying. Plus maniac had some garbage post about vote for vecna for towncred so that was also a factor that made me think mistakes were being made.

[Fluminator]

Ghuggles you are good
Burdened with proficiency
You have failed the test

Flummy did you read
The game you GMed? Also
Vecna was scummy

He was not scummy
Maniac is voting flash
He can die after