M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Durga]

Fine, whatever, waste a day.

Yikes, why so angry? I haven't seen you actually playing beyond coming in to assert that this is a mistake. Who are your scum reads?

[Fluminator]

[snip]
If you want a case that covers all days, here is one for you: D1 you avoided voting for summit until he was ahead by 3 votes 7 minutes before EOD, you actively discouraged people for voting for summit during D1, yet after D1 you claimed you were indicating all D1 that you would vote for summit eventually. D2 you started voting for TrPrado, saying in the same post that you were OK with seth as well, yet at EOD when the wagons were BunnyGo vs. seth, you voted for BunnyGo instead of seth. D3 you voted for BunnyGo at the beginning of the day, even though you switched from BunnyGo to TrPrado at the end of D2, and nothing had changed with BunnyGo's claim yet. D4 you had your vote on damo at the 24 hour mark, and are now using damo as an example of why we should not be looking at suspicious activity from D1.

Man, this amount of analysis is too good to ignore. I am sheeping bozo on this one. This is town bozo through and through.

##vote Vecna

Bozo isn't even voting Vecna lol. He just hopped off flash onto Seth

[flash2015]

Fine, whatever, waste a day.

If you are town, you're the one wasting a day by being useless. Only whining about other people scumreading you does nothing to help. Give us some thoughts.

I am just saying its kind of pointless. If I was scum (I am not) you can always get me later. I can't believe that town is so lost on D4 that I am the only person anyone can think of daykilling.

And a general comment. The more people jump on any little post I make just to criticize, the less likely it will be I will bother to post.

[Fluminator]

Flash is right. It's weird that everyone is deadset against Flash right now and that he's the runaway wagon.

[Fluminator]

I do agree his best bet of survival is not posting.

Posting a crapton surely didn't help Vecna or Seth today so far.

[worcej]

I'm not scumreading you, I wanted to know why Durga's read changed when you hadn't done anything different since she stated her read.

And kinda nice but still blunt please

Yes, I'd also like to know why Durga just 'shifted' too.

My comment was more a general statement.

I already said why

We cross posted, but yes thanks.

[worcej]

Fine, whatever, waste a day.

If you are town, you're the one wasting a day by being useless. Only whining about other people scumreading you does nothing to help. Give us some thoughts.

I am just saying its kind of pointless. If I was scum (I am not) you can always get me later. I can't believe that town is so lost on D4 that I am the only person anyone can think of daykilling.

And a general comment. The more people jump on any little post I make just to criticize, the less likely it will be I will bother to post.

Is asking questions of your posting a criticism or requesting more engagement?

[Maniac]

##vote Seth seems like Worcej isn’t happening at the moment.

I wouldn’t be adverse to a Vecna kill either.

Can you give a bit of justification for all three of those scumreads? Who do you townread?

Sure Seth, WorceJ and Vecna all have sketchy voting on D1. People often spend a lot of energy looking for who bussed. But it may be easier in this game to look at who wasn’t bussing. All those three fit that MO plus Donny and Nanook.

When it comes to town reads, that’s harder. People like you and Flum generally come across Ok, but with Flum I wonder if those watching are screaming at me to follow through with my accusations against Flum. Whilst you lean town I think someone did say you’re not that combative this game which could be scummy. Idk

I could go either way on Tom. He absolved himself of shooting Damo (who wasn’t a bad hit tbh) and that could be scummy as could calling Seth out. Was he looking for a claim? Again Idk.

Flash could have got very lucky if he always votes Summit out the gate and they are both scum.

Wish I had stronger town reads, it seems I could be swayed on anyone tbh

[bozotheclown]

Tom, What made you start to suspect bozo as scum?

Are you encouraging scum reads of me because I scum read you?

I think it's a little defensive to interpret this as Donny encouraging a scumread of you.

Maybe I was misinterpreting what Donny said, but he said something about suspecting me after Fluminator said something similar.

[kgray]

Flash is right. It's weird that everyone is deadset against Flash right now and that he's the runaway wagon.

I'm confused, flash isn't a runaway wagon. It's a 3-way tie.

[bozotheclown]

[snip]
If you want a case that covers all days, here is one for you: D1 you avoided voting for summit until he was ahead by 3 votes 7 minutes before EOD, you actively discouraged people for voting for summit during D1, yet after D1 you claimed you were indicating all D1 that you would vote for summit eventually. D2 you started voting for TrPrado, saying in the same post that you were OK with seth as well, yet at EOD when the wagons were BunnyGo vs. seth, you voted for BunnyGo instead of seth. D3 you voted for BunnyGo at the beginning of the day, even though you switched from BunnyGo to TrPrado at the end of D2, and nothing had changed with BunnyGo's claim yet. D4 you had your vote on damo at the 24 hour mark, and are now using damo as an example of why we should not be looking at suspicious activity from D1.

Man, this amount of analysis is too good to ignore. I am sheeping bozo on this one. This is town bozo through and through.

##vote Vecna

Bozo isn't even voting Vecna lol. He just hopped off flash onto Seth

I moved my vote from flash to Donny and then to seth, but I was only voting for flash because is was coming down to damo vs. flash at Tom's shooting deadline.

I think seth and Vecna as scum together fits.

[kgray]

Man, this amount of analysis is too good to ignore. I am sheeping bozo on this one. This is town bozo through and through.

##vote Vecna

Bozo isn't even voting Vecna lol. He just hopped off flash onto Seth

I moved my vote from flash to Donny and then to seth, but I was only voting for flash because is was coming down to damo vs. flash at Tom's shooting deadline.

I think seth and Vecna as scum together fits.

I think your cases on both are pretty believable but Vecna feels so much scummier to me than seth. Do you ever have gut reads?

[seth24c]

Man, this amount of analysis is too good to ignore. I am sheeping bozo on this one. This is town bozo through and through.

##vote Vecna

Bozo isn't even voting Vecna lol. He just hopped off flash onto Seth

I moved my vote from flash to Donny and then to seth, but I was only voting for flash because is was coming down to damo vs. flash at Tom's shooting deadline.

I think seth and Vecna as scum together fits.

And yes I can see how vecna has been defending me but I’m not sure to take it as town or scum yet, it feels more town motivated today than it did when I was likely to be misflipped on day two. Bozo you are good at cases, does fluminator stand out to you at all? I just had time to read him and his voting record and could see him having bussed summit with a couple teammates day 1 and keeping town confused since then. What are your thoughts?

[Fluminator]

Flash is right. It's weird that everyone is deadset against Flash right now and that he's the runaway wagon.

I'm confused, flash isn't a runaway wagon. It's a 3-way tie.

Flash seems to think it is for some reason. I'm feeding into his delusions.

[bozotheclown]

Vecna started D2 with this:

##vote TrPrado

Damo/Seth also work just fine for me.

Maybe a bozo for that Rdrivera kill

However, at D2 EOD when it looked like the DK was going to be BunnyGo or seth, Vecna voted for BunnyGo. Then, after BunnyGo's claim, Vecna waited until TrPrado's wagon had overtaken seth's wagon to move his vote from BunnyGo to TrPrado (yes, I realize Chaqa was trying to get everyone to vote for TrPrado).

Before EOD, when BunnyGo and seth had become the top 2 wagons, Vecna set up voting for BunnyGo over seth, while hedging his read of seth:

I feel seth is a much worse wagon than TrPrado and bunny, but then again, I was wrong on reading him last game as well.

Still, I feel like his level of guts and confrontationalism is a bit higher this game.

[ghug]

Flash is right. It's weird that everyone is deadset against Flash right now and that he's the runaway wagon.

I'm confused, flash isn't a runaway wagon. It's a 3-way tie.

Is joke

[Vecna]

interesting that you too switched to appear offline mode all of a sudden HR

Lmao can we ban talking about this

Nah I actually have a general question about it to see whether im just imagining things.

Do people, or do people not.....

Remember Hellenic Riot always standing out while playing mafia because his name is still showing up in green like the mods (for his years of service maybe?)

Because that is my memory. That hes always showing online with his name in green. And thats why I feel he just got caught in a lie.

So tell me, am I misremembering that? I would like a second opinion on this to make sure im not just confbiasing it.

[kgray]

Bozo isn't even voting Vecna lol. He just hopped off flash onto Seth

I moved my vote from flash to Donny and then to seth, but I was only voting for flash because is was coming down to damo vs. flash at Tom's shooting deadline.

I think seth and Vecna as scum together fits.

And yes I can see how vecna has been defending me but I’m not sure to take it as town or scum yet, it feels more town motivated today than it did when I was likely to be misflipped on day two. Bozo you are good at cases, does fluminator stand out to you at all? I just had time to read him and his voting record and could see him having bussed summit with a couple teammates day 1 and keeping town confused since then. What are your thoughts?

Okay but trying to distract bozo from his case on you and Vecna by asking about flum is pretty sketch.... Seth if you have a case on Flum you make it, don't ask bozo to do the work for you.

[ghug]

Bozo isn't even voting Vecna lol. He just hopped off flash onto Seth

I moved my vote from flash to Donny and then to seth, but I was only voting for flash because is was coming down to damo vs. flash at Tom's shooting deadline.

I think seth and Vecna as scum together fits.

And yes I can see how vecna has been defending me but I’m not sure to take it as town or scum yet, it feels more town motivated today than it did when I was likely to be misflipped on day two. Bozo you are good at cases, does fluminator stand out to you at all? I just had time to read him and his voting record and could see him having bussed summit with a couple teammates day 1 and keeping town confused since then. What are your thoughts?

What makes you think bozo is good at cases?

[kgray]

Flash is right. It's weird that everyone is deadset against Flash right now and that he's the runaway wagon.

I'm confused, flash isn't a runaway wagon. It's a 3-way tie.

Is joke

In my defense, it wasn't very funny