M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

Yes - but what I’m saying is that scum likely would not have pieced together his crumbs if he hadn’t announced it to the world. The act of doing so slims PR pool. It’s either bad play as town or scum, and I think bunny with a town perspective would not have narrowed the potential PR pool like thag

Okay. I think we're all on the same page now.

tldr Bunny is super suspect.

Lets see them crumbs! bunny youre here, find them for me will you?

I asked worcej about his naked kid in the water for a buck; that's the cover of a nirvana album.

When he responded "I don't do requests" I then responded "Never mind" which is the name of the album.

Most of my posts were Kurt Cobain quotes/lyrics like "I'd rather be hated for who I am" or "The worst crime is faking it" a bunch of other ones.

[bozotheclown]

Yes, I had hoped the jailor here would be thinking a little about it.

That said, it's different here. In 'The Lost Toons" the jailor could kill someone N1 and then revert to protector. Here, they can protect for a bit, and then revert to townclear at some point (in addition to being like a neighborizor for a network of potential townclears).

So the strategy isn't quite the same anymore. But the strategy for protecting as doc or jailor always is: if they *know* you'll be protecting someone, then you don't need to.

Yes, but without getting into whether jailing Chaqa was a good idea, what I question is that you did not realize Chaqa was jailed N1 when he was the only player that did not post.

Yeah, wasn't paying attention. Slammed this week and didn't care enough. Didn't expect Chaq to survive.

I *am* disappointed in myself that I didn't shut up at night to provide cover for jailor protector. That was dumb of me. I wish anyone from last game had remembered that and done it. Stupid bunny.

I did not think about that until I had already posted either.

[Vecna]

He’s obviously not going to draw a night kill with those crumbs, but you only try to draw the NK as VT, so basically he is making it easier for scum to PR search by posting that - and I would think someone who supposedly tried to protect PRs would realize that.

Scum clearly don't need my help to PR hunt. We're nearly done with them...only 2 left of any use after 1 day?!

Proud of your nightkill, eh?

hmm its actually shaping up to look pretty bad if we have the new 3p

[BunnyGo]

Is ghug going to be the only one to care that Bunny apparently went through the trouble of fake crumbing D1 to draw the night kill, and then seemingly outed himself as VT but making public his crumbs - which in turn would make him not draw the night kill after all??

I think ghugs post about Bunny potentially trying to get ahead of someone picking up on those fake crumbs is super plausible. Though the crumbs were obscure enough that I don’t know they were ever in danger of being found.

Care to point out the obscure crumbs? If he was actually crumbing bugs bunny theres not much point in continuing to try and draw the NK with softs of a Pr that is already dead.

On the other hand, if theyre too obscure to ever be spotted by scum, then his logic of wanting to draw the NK also seems like just an excuse for having a stronger fakeclaim down the line.

They were designed with a limited target audience in mind: worcej, Flum, kgray, Durga, maybe a couple others from M59. In that game when I was cop with a guilty scan on Gold, I talked about how I'd entered Nirvana as my only defense of my read. So here I just made a lot of Nirvana/Kurt Cobain references. So much so that Tom called out that Nirvana sucked and then we went down some side trail about Seattle bands.

boosting this for @Vecna. I think he missed it.

[BunnyGo]

Scum clearly don't need my help to PR hunt. We're nearly done with them...only 2 left of any use after 1 day?!

Proud of your nightkill, eh?

hmm its actually shaping up to look pretty bad if we have the new 3p

Yes. if all PRs die, they just have to survive to KiLo, and take a stab at solving.

[Vecna]

I have a gun. Who should I shoot?

Donny, unless you think we have tho votes. If you think we can get him without the gun, I'd hold it until tonight.

Wrong answer.

The right call is always to shoot the leading votegetter at a prearranged time mid-day.

unless vash is in your game. Always shoot vash

[Vecna]

Listen. Flum claimed having the gun as scum when he didn't have the gun.

Do we really think a sane item thief would give the gun to ghug? No. Ghug is scum.

Item thief is dead though?

lol, this guy really is having some issues in the comprehensive reading department

[BunnyGo]

Listen. Flum claimed having the gun as scum when he didn't have the gun.

Do we really think a sane item thief would give the gun to ghug? No. Ghug is scum.

Item thief is dead though?

lol, this guy really is having some issues in the comprehensive reading department

To be fair: Durga did have a typo.

[Vecna]

What do you make of Durga's reaction to my gun claim, Flum?

the interactions between you two are much less interesting this game.

But the fact you dont appear to be trying to pocket anyone in any way whatsoever has me feeling good at least. Im always wrong about you though, I should probably know better and flip my read, but im not gonna do that regardless.

[Vecna]

Item thief is dead though?

lol, this guy really is having some issues in the comprehensive reading department

To be fair: Durga did have a typo.

And yet noone thought she meant the mafia item interacting role

[Vecna]

Yeah the rdrivera kill is a bit suprising. I assumed there was a crumb I missed that scum didn't. But I still don't see anything skimming his iso other than maybe "I am a 100% guaranteed obvtown"

Maybe bozo can research who would be most likely to know a PR meta on Rdr? Lol
Was it just luck?

im usually pretty good at telling the difference between his vt and PR game, but did not really see the thing he usually does as a Pr.

[Vecna]

I do not understand why rdrivera did not mention Donny looking bad based on VCA.

I don't know, his interactions with the summit wagon are less eyecatchingly scummy than the people rivera DID list (considering he mentioned summit a grand total of 3 times, not a lot of evidence to go off of)

I only saw two mentions of summit by Donny D1, and not until EOD. I think Donny not mentioning summit most of the day while voting for a number of his counter wagons looks more suspicious than those more openly defending summit.

Donny's first mention of summit was 17 minutes before EOD:

No

So Summit is null for you?

At that time, the vote was tied 7-7, and BunnyGo was voting for Donny. Donny seemed to be trying to determine how likely BunnyGo was to vote for summit.

Donny did not mention summit again until after Chaqa's claim:

I'm Porky Pig.

My first post, the capitals spell out "C.A.S.E." which is a brand of porkroll.

K, that is true
##vote Summit

its also an impressive use of the bot to confirm the statement within a minute or so. especially since the post contained a bunch more capital letters.

[Vecna]

"Hasta la vista, baby"

Was worcej softing strongman? Did Donny respond here with his first post?

yeah, if donny does flip scum, bunny is pretty much towncleared (non-scum-cleared to be more precise).

[Vecna]

Everyone always scumreads me when I’m Town. I don’t know why. But the scum know the truth. I was expecting Chaq to die. And barring that, if they went PR hunting, I was thinking people who picked up my “I’m in Nirvana” from last game might see it this game.

It was pretty obvious that chaqa was in jail last night

Really? Why? Is the jailor going to protect him forever? Wouldn't the scum expect Chaq to be jailed and go after someone else so that jailing Chaq is a waste of 2 PRs?

I mean, the jailer had like....2 minutes to consider his options?

Seems like a pretty straight forward decision on the spot without thinking ahead.

pretty dumb decision of scum to kill Rdrivera if you think about it. He shouldve been ruled out of being the jailer so had effectively lower odds of being a PR hit.

[BunnyGo]

<snip>
Donny did not mention summit again until after Chaqa's claim:

K, that is true
##vote Summit

its also an impressive use of the bot to confirm the statement within a minute or so. especially since the post contained a bunch more capital letters.

It's not that impressive. Just need to look at Chaq's first post. It's not *true* about his firstpost. The capital letters are:

HCAUSE

but it's close.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

seth24c (3) - MoscowFleet, TrPrado, ghug
BunnyGo (3) - worcej, Tom Bombadil, Donny Dude
TrPrado (2) - Chaqa, Vecna
Donny Dude (2) - bozotheclown, BunnyGo(END)
Fluminator (1) - Maniac
Nanook (1) - damo666

Currently NOBODY is facing the cut.

Just under 35 hours are left.

[Vecna]

I did not pick up on that at all, which makes me wonder how the hell I missed that.

Does anyone here believe this?

Bunny, is everything I do scum indicative to you?

hmmm. This does not feel like a scummy post though

[BunnyGo]

Does anyone here believe this?

Bunny, is everything I do scum indicative to you?

hmmm. This does not feel like a scummy post though

Or scum frustrated to be caught by a dumb bunny obsession for the wrong reasons.

[Vecna]

Bunny, is everything I do scum indicative to you?

No. But I'm trying to see:

1) Can I consciously state why I'm sure you're scum; at the moment it's a feeling

2) Can I help bozo make the case so other people see the light.

K, those are good reasons.
Far better than a simple yes.

But then this meek response after he just admitted he's trying to bury you.

[Vecna]

"Hasta la vista, baby"

Was worcej softing strongman? Did Donny respond here with his first post?

That was Donny's first post, and worcej had already posted some Schwarzenegger quotes, then worcej posted the same quote as Donny:

Thanks Donny. I can see how people could be offended and we wouldn’t want that in a game (or outside the game). Do we just call it a day kill then?

"Hasta la vista, Baby..."

I thought it was possible Donny was signaling to worcej that he was the traitor and worcej was acknowledging it. I asked worcej about this as he avoided the question:

Was this you acknowledging you received Donny's message?

"It's showtime!"

Question bozo: Do you think scum would be messaging so openly after what happened to you in last game?