M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

The concept of buddying is one scum defending someone he obviously knows is town to gain credit.
I really like don't like your play and the joke of being scum (Ghug already did that as scum I think).

##vote Maniac

I've done this twice and been town both times.

I found this from M29, when you were mafia: "You said Vash is a good daykill regardless of alignment. I'm scum so I thought it was a good idea. Jeez you're thick."

Jesus

Ok well I've also done it twice as town, and those were the times people made a big stink about it.

[Chaqa]

Hey Chaqa can you talk about something that isn't mechanics or anchoring

Hmmm...

Did you know that in World War 2, in order to throw off the Germans, the Allies made a fake army of inflatable tanks led by General Patton and faked a bunch of radio traffic to make it look like the D-Day landings would be at Calais, and not Normandy? And it was so successful they didn’t send the panzer reserves in because they thought a second army was about to land there and that Normandy was a diversion?

[seth24c]

I have the same feeling. Chaqa full of excuses is scum Chaqa.

I was actually making a joke with that post haha. Based on how quickly the chaqa wagon developed the last time he was scum I’m willing to wait this out and see what happens the rest of the phase.

So you think that because Chaqa can only be scum if the wagon forms quickly?

No it seems that several people can easily read chaqa and that if he is scum he won’t be difficult to get votes on.

[BunnyGo]

Okay, I gave the setup a good readthrough, and am I crazy or doesn't it make sense for the Road Runner to claim? Maybe not right now, but eventually/early?

No one should claim anything due to the 3P

Yeah, my readthrough of the setup got a lot less thorough as I went down the list, so I didn't consider/fully read the 3P when I was suggesting it. :/

With no 3P, you still think it’s a good idea to convert 9 lives to innocent child with no miskill for analysis?

[Chaqa]

No one should claim anything due to the 3P

Yeah, my readthrough of the setup got a lot less thorough as I went down the list, so I didn't consider/fully read the 3P when I was suggesting it. :/

With no 3P, you still think it’s a good idea to convert 9 lives to innocent child with no miskill for analysis?

Town clears warp the game in town's favor IMO. They provide trusted voices and decision makers, as well as increasing the complexity of the mafia NK WIFOM game. Every town clear adds another chance for a protective role to make a save as the mafia will want to eliminate the clears, and if they don't, and instead PR hunt, they're leaving a town clear alive for another day/night that they need to deal with later.

I've been playing A LOT of Among Us and I've fallen severely back into the PoE/logical mode of thought on these kinds of games, which is why I'm a bit lost today as I have absolutely no information to work with. Anyone who's played with me knows my value to town has always been at its lowest on Day 1.

[ghug]

Yeah, my readthrough of the setup got a lot less thorough as I went down the list, so I didn't consider/fully read the 3P when I was suggesting it. :/

With no 3P, you still think it’s a good idea to convert 9 lives to innocent child with no miskill for analysis?

Town clears warp the game in town's favor IMO. They provide trusted voices and decision makers, as well as increasing the complexity of the mafia NK WIFOM game. Every town clear adds another chance for a protective role to make a save as the mafia will want to eliminate the clears, and if they don't, and instead PR hunt, they're leaving a town clear alive for another day/night that they need to deal with later.

I've been playing A LOT of Among Us and I've fallen severely back into the PoE/logical mode of thought on these kinds of games, which is why I'm a bit lost today as I have absolutely no information to work with. Anyone who's played with me knows my value to town has always been at its lowest on Day 1.

It remains at its lowest on all the other days too though

Townclears are bad for town's ability to generate information.

[Chaqa]

I do think it's especially sus that RIVERA would say excuse-Chaqa is scum-Chaqa, when he has played several games with me that would go against that.

Durga hasn't been around as much since I came back, so more benefit of the doubt there.

That said, I do give a lot of excuses regardless of alignment.

[Fluminator]

Anyone who's played with me knows my value to town has always been at its lowest on Day 1.

[BunnyGo]

80 percent of diplomacy players are either engineers or lawyers

Then I am of the 20%

Me too. I think Durga underestimates number of students.

[Chaqa]

With no 3P, you still think it’s a good idea to convert 9 lives to innocent child with no miskill for analysis?

Town clears warp the game in town's favor IMO. They provide trusted voices and decision makers, as well as increasing the complexity of the mafia NK WIFOM game. Every town clear adds another chance for a protective role to make a save as the mafia will want to eliminate the clears, and if they don't, and instead PR hunt, they're leaving a town clear alive for another day/night that they need to deal with later.

I've been playing A LOT of Among Us and I've fallen severely back into the PoE/logical mode of thought on these kinds of games, which is why I'm a bit lost today as I have absolutely no information to work with. Anyone who's played with me knows my value to town has always been at its lowest on Day 1.

It remains at its lowest on all the other days too though

Townclears are bad for town's ability to generate information.

I severely disagree with that assessment (re: generating information).

[BunnyGo]

Pretty crappy that the response to “can someone help me figure this out” is “lol no fuck you”

Yeah...you’re catching me on 3 hours sleep. I probably owe you an apology....

Nah, Nanook is over-reacting.

I wasn’t going to GIVE an apology.

[BunnyGo]

Hey Chaqa can you talk about something that isn't mechanics or anchoring

Hmmm...

Did you know that in World War 2, in order to throw off the Germans, the Allies made a fake army of inflatable tanks led by General Patton and faked a bunch of radio traffic to make it look like the D-Day landings would be at Calais, and not Normandy? And it was so successful they didn’t send the panzer reserves in because they thought a second army was about to land there and that Normandy was a diversion?

There was more to it than that.

[BunnyGo]

Yeah, my readthrough of the setup got a lot less thorough as I went down the list, so I didn't consider/fully read the 3P when I was suggesting it. :/

With no 3P, you still think it’s a good idea to convert 9 lives to innocent child with no miskill for analysis?

Town clears warp the game in town's favor IMO. They provide trusted voices and decision makers, as well as increasing the complexity of the mafia NK WIFOM game. Every town clear adds another chance for a protective role to make a save as the mafia will want to eliminate the clears, and if they don't, and instead PR hunt, they're leaving a town clear alive for another day/night that they need to deal with later.

I've been playing A LOT of Among Us and I've fallen severely back into the PoE/logical mode of thought on these kinds of games, which is why I'm a bit lost today as I have absolutely no information to work with. Anyone who's played with me knows my value to town has always been at its lowest on Day 1.

You realize the town clear is retroactive. We only need it *eventually*. Like after we miskill the 9 lives and get some wagon analysis in addition to the retroactive town clear.

[Fluminator]

PRs claiming is bad
Next

[BunnyGo]

PRs claiming is bad
Next

Who is worcej quoting?

[ghug]

Ok I want to argue with Chaqa about this all day but I think his opinion is just bad and we should move on.

[worcej]

Pretty crappy that the response to “can someone help me figure this out” is “lol no fuck you”

Welcome to webdip, hope you stay a long time

More like 'Welcome to the internet, hope you can take a joke'

[Nanook]

Pretty crappy that the response to “can someone help me figure this out” is “lol no fuck you”

Yeah...you’re catching me on 3 hours sleep. I probably owe you an apology....

Nah, Nanook is over-reacting.

Idk I’m known for my levelheaded and entirely proportionate responses

[Chaqa]

Ok I want to argue with Chaqa about this all day but I think his opinion is just bad and we should move on.

I've never really held the traditionally "correct" viewpoints on mafia lol, I've gotten strung up by town many times over the years because I didn't drink the koolaid. (see: Mafia 1, et al)

[Chaqa]

I don't really follow the summit case, or the end votes. Is this just Day 1 memes still?