M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[TrPrado]

I was hesitant to say this, but since Fluminator is claiming to have a gun and is threatening to shoot the lead wagon at the 24 hour mark, and a number of others are calling for me to be shot:

I claim that I am a VT.

He called show looney toons when it's actually looney tunes. One of the role PMs mentions vanilla toon. I thought it was cute.

The reason I questioned Fluminator on this is because I thought this was the reason Fluminator said something about goldfinger's PM, and it indicates that Fluminator is unlikely to have seen a real VT role PM. So, if Fluminator does not turn out to be a PR, he is probably mafia.

For those who are going to want to complain about potentially outing PRs, I think a mass claim would be a good idea right now, we could probably solve the game today.

I think we might consider not shooting Bozo after all.

Huh? What's changed?

[kgray]

Tom was mafia and therefore trying to deceive us. Also, you changed the punctuation in your quote and changed the connotation of what he said:

I'm not convinced the comma is very important. And yes, of course he was trying to deceive us in general. But what does scum!Tom have to gain by pretending he has "no idea who hthefourth is" like is being suggested when anyone (especially goldfinger) could easily discover that they'd play a game together?

[kgray]

Tom was mafia and therefore trying to deceive us. Also, you changed the punctuation in your quote and changed the connotation of what he said:

I'm not convinced the comma is very important. And yes, of course he was trying to deceive us in general. But what does scum!Tom have to gain by pretending he has "no idea who hthefourth is" like is being suggested when anyone (especially goldfinger) could easily discover that they'd play a game together?

This was a rhetorical question. I would prefer to move on to different topics.

[bozotheclown]

Tom was mafia and therefore trying to deceive us. Also, you changed the punctuation in your quote and changed the connotation of what he said:

I'm not convinced the comma is very important. And yes, of course he was trying to deceive us in general. But what does scum!Tom have to gain by pretending he has "no idea who hthefourth is" like is being suggested when anyone (especially goldfinger) could easily discover that they'd play a game together?

You might be correct. However, in that post, Tom was specifically using not knowing hthefourth as an answer to rdrivera's question of why he ingored hthefourth defending him.

[bozotheclown]

Tom was mafia and therefore trying to deceive us. Also, you changed the punctuation in your quote and changed the connotation of what he said:

I'm not convinced the comma is very important. And yes, of course he was trying to deceive us in general. But what does scum!Tom have to gain by pretending he has "no idea who hthefourth is" like is being suggested when anyone (especially goldfinger) could easily discover that they'd play a game together?

This was a rhetorical question. I would prefer to move on to different topics.

too late

[summit_fever]

Oops, I've misplaced my gun and seem to have lost it. Sorry.
I think Bozo is probably town.

##unvote Bozo

Bastard. I was all stoked on having a result today. Ahh well.

[Durga]

I feel like everyone engaged in this convo is townie

[kgray]

Change the direction then. I'm open to discuss other things.

Thoughts on rivera? TrPrado? Flum? I haven't thought about them much at all recently.

Rivera is obvtown, which might be a problem. Prado.. Seems normal. Flum not having the gall to pick his shot is annoying to me, but I've never been in a vig game before.

Agreed on rivera, but I'm certainly not at a point where I want to be questioning some of my strongest townreads.

Prado mostly seems reasonable to me, but I still don't have a read on him. Same with Flum, which concerns me slightly more since I've played with him before and he seems less involved this game. Something seems fishy about the gun situation but Flum's tone seems normal.

[bozotheclown]

So if we did a mass claim now, we would have 5 PR clears, maybe another clear from the Informed, kgray and I should be considered almost cleared VTs, rdrivera should be a near clear as well, that leaves 5 or 6 VTs, 3 mafia, and a 3P.

[bozotheclown]

Tom was mafia and therefore trying to deceive us. Also, you changed the punctuation in your quote and changed the connotation of what he said:

I'm not convinced the comma is very important. And yes, of course he was trying to deceive us in general. But what does scum!Tom have to gain by pretending he has "no idea who hthefourth is" like is being suggested when anyone (especially goldfinger) could easily discover that they'd play a game together?

Also, according to a translator, if you remove the comma, it changes from this "Eu também não sei o quarto, como eu faço bozo e damo" to this "Eu também não sei o quarto como eu conheço bozo e damo" in Portuguese, so obviously the comma is very important.

[Durga]

I'm happy with flipping yav, food, bunny today.

[TrPrado]

Tom was mafia and therefore trying to deceive us. Also, you changed the punctuation in your quote and changed the connotation of what he said:

I'm not convinced the comma is very important. And yes, of course he was trying to deceive us in general. But what does scum!Tom have to gain by pretending he has "no idea who hthefourth is" like is being suggested when anyone (especially goldfinger) could easily discover that they'd play a game together?

Also, according to a translator, if you remove the comma, it changes from this "Eu também não sei o quarto, como eu faço bozo e damo" to this "Eu também não sei o quarto como eu conheço bozo e damo" in Portuguese, so obviously the comma is very important.

I don't know why people keep saying you're helpful and important to keep around when you keep saying stuff like this lol

[Durga]

Bozo, will you marry me?

[summit_fever]

I don't agree, if we want to set this thing we should flip Bozo. Or we just forget and do a regular day.

No need to do this. Just like there was no need to flip Hamilton in M1015. Bozo isn't, on the whole, scummy enough to kill today. I can find more reasons to scum vecna and I don't think we should kill him either.

Are you considering Bozo is the top wagon and Bunny the second and most of the votes are justified by Kgray's theory?

I don't understand. I think you're on the whole correct, though some of those votes may be scum motivated as well.

[BunnyGo]

I'm happy with flipping yav, food, bunny today.

Didn’t you just say I was towny?

[BunnyGo]

@Flum: way to ride the Nirvana. Loving it.

[BunnyGo]

So if we did a mass claim now, we would have 5 PR clears, maybe another clear from the Informed, kgray and I should be considered almost cleared VTs, rdrivera should be a near clear as well, that leaves 5 or 6 VTs, 3 mafia, and a 3P.

This isn’t a terrible plan. Kgray is less town cleared to me. Since jailor isn’t killing anymore, can be used as defensive if we all go silent at night to not let scum know who is actually in jail.

[Durga]

I'm happy with flipping yav, food, bunny today.

Didn’t you just say I was towny?

No

[Durga]

So if we did a mass claim now, we would have 5 PR clears, maybe another clear from the Informed, kgray and I should be considered almost cleared VTs, rdrivera should be a near clear as well, that leaves 5 or 6 VTs, 3 mafia, and a 3P.

This isn’t a terrible plan. Kgray is less town cleared to me. Since jailor isn’t killing anymore, can be used as defensive if we all go silent at night to not let scum know who is actually in jail.

What? You're telling me jailed can't talk in the thread at night?

[kgray]

So if we did a mass claim now, we would have 5 PR clears, maybe another clear from the Informed, kgray and I should be considered almost cleared VTs, rdrivera should be a near clear as well, that leaves 5 or 6 VTs, 3 mafia, and a 3P.

This isn’t a terrible plan. Kgray is less town cleared to me. Since jailor isn’t killing anymore, can be used as defensive if we all go silent at night to not let scum know who is actually in jail.

Yeah Bunny is scum.