MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1001 Post by snowy801 » Sat May 12, 2018 7:35 pm

##vote jamiet99uk
sorry lads, I have to head out. I'll be around but you know

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1002 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 12, 2018 7:57 pm

Two hours left and still 5 non-voters...

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1003 Post by yavuzovic » Sat May 12, 2018 7:59 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 6:53 pm
yavuzovic wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 6:51 pm
I think Jamie is town. I'm not good at people's history but Jamie's anger is usual and I don't scumread him. BUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN I TOWNREAD HIM. I'm not buddying him.
So, you think I am town, but this DOES NOT MEAN you townread me.

Thanks, that's really clear.
Agh! Hahahahha yes. I must write this again:
I don't scumread you but this doesn't mean I townread you. 😃 Sorry for confusion.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1004 Post by RagingIke297 » Sat May 12, 2018 7:59 pm

Two hours left and 5 people haven't voted at all today. Are snowy and Jamie going to be the wagons today?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1005 Post by ghug » Sat May 12, 2018 8:03 pm

Those are lame wagons find a new one.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1006 Post by peterlund » Sat May 12, 2018 8:10 pm

My reads EoD2:

Scum:
Balki - The only good theory, explaining EoN1 events, is that Balki is scum and they let him claim RB while killing Xorxes.
Jamie - Totally out of his town meta, defending scum buddy Balki (and Snowy?)

Scummish: Ezio, stressed, Chaqa, reedeer, Ike, snowy
Townish: DrCJG, teacher, rdriv, RHK

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1007 Post by TrPrado » Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 pm

peterlund wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:10 pm
My reads EoD2:

Scum:
Balki - The only good theory, explaining EoN1 events, is that Balki is scum and they let him claim RB while killing Xorxes.
Jamie - Totally out of his town meta, defending scum buddy Balki (and Snowy?)

Scummish: Ezio, stressed, Chaqa, reedeer, Ike, snowy
Townish: DrCJG, teacher, rdriv, RHK
Balki isn’t going to be a wagon, I recommend jumping on Jamie.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1008 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sat May 12, 2018 8:25 pm

Vote Count 2.2

Snowy801 (6): DemonRHK, dargorygel, Stressedlines, teacher2, Jamiet99uk, yavuzovic
Jamiet99uk (3): TrPrado, rdrivera2005, snowy801
Telamor (2): Ezio, RagingIke297
Balki Bartokomous (1): peterlund
Ezio (1): ghug
Stressedlines (1): Telamor
Yavuzovic (1): DrCJG

The following players still need to vote: Balki Bartokomous, Chaqa, reedeer1, thamrick

The following players have not met posting requirements: Chaqa, reedeer1

If you do not meet the above you will be replaced. If there are no subs, I will start modkilling players who do not meet requirements.

Currently snowy801 is set to be lynched.

There are roughly 1.5 hours remaining in D2.
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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1009 Post by peterlund » Sat May 12, 2018 8:28 pm

TrPrado wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 pm
Balki isn’t going to be a wagon, I recommend jumping on Jamie.
Ok, it seems like Balki is not going to happen today, so let's test if "NEW JAMIE" can abstain from dead posting coming home dead from the pub a Saturday night! (as he has promised us) ##VOTE JAMIE

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#1010 Post by DemonRHK » Sat May 12, 2018 8:41 pm

peterlund wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:28 pm
TrPrado wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 pm
Balki isn’t going to be a wagon, I recommend jumping on Jamie.
Ok, it seems like Balki is not going to happen today, so let's test if "NEW JAMIE" can abstain from dead posting coming home dead from the pub a Saturday night! (as he has promised us) ##VOTE JAMIE
So what I would glean is a null read (not on your lists) just flipped your vote with zero effort. Fucking really?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1011 Post by TrPrado » Sat May 12, 2018 8:46 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 7:04 pm
Did a reread of Jamie after my Hearts of Iron game crashed.

For everything I'm seeing, this is town Jamie. He's not maniping wagons IMO like he tried to do in other scum games.

I'm still confident in snowy, and my vote remains there. Telamor and yavu are the others I would be confident in voting if it comes down to it.
I’m going to have to disagree he’s not been manipulative. I think making the argument that xorxes’ reads weren’t clear enough for peter to assume he was going to push Balki, then using the same reads list which ranked Balki and peter the same as an argument as to why peter should be considered scum is a textbook case of manipulation.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1012 Post by TrPrado » Sat May 12, 2018 8:48 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:41 pm
peterlund wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:28 pm
TrPrado wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:23 pm
Balki isn’t going to be a wagon, I recommend jumping on Jamie.
Ok, it seems like Balki is not going to happen today, so let's test if "NEW JAMIE" can abstain from dead posting coming home dead from the pub a Saturday night! (as he has promised us) ##VOTE JAMIE
So what I would glean is a null read (not on your lists) just flipped your vote with zero effort. Fucking really?
Flipped his read from one of his scum reads onto another one of his scum reads. By pointing out that people weren’t going to back the first of the two while a wagon already existed on the other. Is this a big deal somehow?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1013 Post by peterlund » Sat May 12, 2018 8:49 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 8:41 pm
So what I would glean is a null read (not on your lists) just flipped your vote with zero effort. Fucking really?
I do not get what you mean. Jamie is on my list as a scum read. What are you saying?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1014 Post by DrCJG » Sat May 12, 2018 9:04 pm

I am driving should be home in about 40 mins in time for EoD.

Looks like my wagon isn't going to get any support. Snowy and Jamiet were the last two on my null list (closest to scum), but I have never been convinced either is scum...

@ snowy give me 3 reasons why we should lynch Jamiet
@ jamiet give me 3 reasons why we should lynch snowy

@ everyone else feel free to provide quick reasons so i can read wheni get back

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1015 Post by DemonRHK » Sat May 12, 2018 9:06 pm

You didn’t have Prado on your reads list. As soon as he said ‘Balki isn’t going to happen’ you jumped. 5 minutes. You never even tried to make a case for Balki. You shrugged and went whatever and jumped to Jamie. That was the weakest limp from a wagon I could imagine.

Peter reeks, and Prado doesn’t look amazing either.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1016 Post by DemonRHK » Sat May 12, 2018 9:07 pm

I don’t plan on moving from snowy and this smells of a scumpush.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1017 Post by teacher2 » Sat May 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Dr I’m on mobile too, but see snowy as scummy wagon jumping yesterday and like the people on his wagon better. Jamir is a late rising counter. Honestly I liked where you were/are for my second, but am unimpressed by snowy having had the leading wagon for 48 hours and not trying to redeem himself. (Counter argument - scum has had 48 hours to push off and done not that much except this late Jamie play?)

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1018 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sat May 12, 2018 9:13 pm

Vote Count 2.3

Snowy801 (6): DemonRHK, dargorygel, Stressedlines, teacher2, Jamiet99uk, yavuzovic
Jamiet99uk (4): TrPrado, rdrivera2005, snowy801, peterlund
Telamor (2): Ezio, RagingIke297
Ezio (1): ghug
Stressedlines (1): Telamor
Yavuzovic (1): DrCJG

The following players still need to vote: Balki Bartokomous, Chaqa, reedeer1, thamrick

The following players have not met posting requirements: Chaqa, reedeer1

If you do not meet the above you will be replaced. If there are no subs, I will start modkilling players who do not meet requirements.

Currently snowy801 is set to be lynched.

There are roughly 45 minutes remaining in D2.
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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1019 Post by TrPrado » Sat May 12, 2018 9:14 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 9:06 pm
You didn’t have Prado on your reads list. As soon as he said ‘Balki isn’t going to happen’ you jumped. 5 minutes. You never even tried to make a case for Balki. You shrugged and went whatever and jumped to Jamie. That was the weakest limp from a wagon I could imagine.

Peter reeks, and Prado doesn’t look amazing either.
Why does it matter WHO pointed it out to him? If it were a scum read maybe I’d see your point on this, but otherwise there’s nothing that really suggests the move doesn’t make sense.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#1020 Post by peterlund » Sat May 12, 2018 9:14 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 9:06 pm
You didn’t have Prado on your reads list. As soon as he said ‘Balki isn’t going to happen’ you jumped. 5 minutes. You never even tried to make a case for Balki. You shrugged and went whatever and jumped to Jamie. That was the weakest limp from a wagon I could imagine.

Peter reeks, and Prado doesn’t look amazing either.
I cannot see what Prado not being on my read list, has to do with my read of Jamie. Yes, Prado suggested me to switch and I had obviously already thought that thought already since Balki wasn't taking off.

RHK: Are you seriously saying that I should have abstained to do my already planned vote switch just because Prado happen to suggest it before I came to it?

That sounds a big silly to me.

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