M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

[Jamiet99uk]

The other reason I stayed on Summit? Votes were flying around and I didnt want to keep moving.

[Jamiet99uk]

I know you're all doing advanced analysis, but I've got some changes to my reads:

I had before stated my suspicions of Bozo, based mostly his general lack of engagement, unlike what he's done in the past. He has since however, changed his tune, and some of the more recent things he has said and done now have me believing the he is town.

Similarly, I also am leaning town on Bo_ and kgray, based on their (from what I can tell) good town work.

Jamie is a weird one. I think he's done some stuff I believe to help us uncover the mafia, but he's just giving off weird vibes.

Summit and RDR are null for now.

You apparently have no scumreads, Macca?

Who. Do. You. Think. Is. Scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

I am certain that one of our low posters is scum, trying to get away under the radar.

Our three lowest-posting players today are Summit, Rdrivera and Macca.

Summit's contribution today: Basic answers to questions but no more than that. No scumreads. Not pushing anyone. Not asking any questions.

Rdrivera's contribution today: Clearly declares his two top scumreads, and a preference for HB over Summit. Engages with Bozo's questions, makes a case on why HB should be killed.

Macca's contribution today: Says EoD was wild. Says we should vote between HR and HB but then says that was a joke. Promises reads. Has no scumreads.

Of these three, Rdrivera is the only one that is trying to help solve the game. Summit and Macca are both fucking horrendous.

[Jamiet99uk]

@ EVERYONE:

Please declare your Town / Scum / Null read on:

SUMMIT
MACCA
RDRIVERA

Please?

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE MACCA

[Jamiet99uk]

You cannot get to D3 in this setup and have NO scumreads.

Macca is scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

My scumpool right now:

bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian
Macca573
summit_fever

[bozotheclown]

@ EVERYONE:

Please declare your Town / Scum / Null read on:

SUMMIT
MACCA
RDRIVERA

Please?

Vecna may have been correct about summit knowing HR and HB are town, or at least that he knew HB is town. I would say:

summit: scum lean
Macca: town lean
rdrivera: null

[Hellenic Riot]

I'm still waiting on Macca to answer which exact points Vecna made that singlehandedly convinced him that I was scum D2

[bozotheclown]

I'm still waiting on Macca to answer which exact points Vecna made that singlehandedly convinced him that I was scum D2

I am more concerned with those who avoided your wagon D2, whether you are town or not. kgray and summit look like they did not want to be on your wagon when/if you flipped.

[bozotheclown]

##vote jamie

Any concerns about the HR wagon, aside from it's the majority?

I'm suspicious of HR and I think he's a good wagon, but yeah I don't think everyone piling on is very helpful.

As for the people on the wagon: I think Jamie and bozo (to a lesser extent) are suspicious, I very strongly townread Vecna, Macca seems a bit overwhelmed and is null to me, and my scumread of rdr has softened considerably. So I guess it's not too bad.

Actually, take that back.

## Unvote

As long as you're leading, you don't need me jumping on.

##Vote Jamie

I very much enjoy how you're trying to get me to keep focusing on Jamie, but I'm going to take a hard pass on that.

Your excuses for flipping your vote around are somehow even worse than the way you were doing it in the first place.

I agree with this, I think HB's posts are scummier than his votes. Can you please address why you think his flipping was scummy in the first place? I'm still not really seeing it.

kgray expressed suspicion of HR and HB, but did not vote for either.

I still think Jamie's weird but I'm not loving sitting on a wagon with Hamilton, and his recent activity makes me think there are probably better options.

I'd consider sheeping Vecna but first let's see if anyone would ##vote bozo with me.

kgray said she was considering voting for summit because Vecna was, but first wanted to try to get a wagon going on me.

Okay, so no bozo today. I guess of the other people with votes, I'd prefer Hamilton > Jamie > HR > Summit > bo.

##vote Hamilton

When kgray gave up on my wagon, she finally voted for HB, while indicating she would vote for HB, Jamie, or HR over summit, despite saying she was considering following Vecna onto summit 21 minutes earlier. One thing that changed in that 21 minutes is that summit picked up 2 more votes, so that if kgray had voted for summit, she would have tied summit with HR.

summit also stayed off the HR and HB wagons until the last minute, when he went with HR over HB when he was at risk of getting killed and bo_sox said he would move from HB to summit. With the voted tied between HR, HB, and summit at 3, and bo_sox saying he would move from HB to summit, summit knew he need to vote for HR instead of HB to save himself. It is not scum indicative to save himself, as HR would say, but summit qualified his vote by implying HR was more likely to be scum the HB:

Really think Hamilton is the scummiest of these three

I don't

##vote hellenic

By quoting this post from kgray, summit also documented his disagreement with kgray while placing the vote necessary to save himself.

So, my conclusion is that a kgray/summit/? scum team is a reasonable possibility.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE summit_fever

[rdrivera2005]

@ EVERYONE:

Please declare your Town / Scum / Null read on:

SUMMIT
MACCA
RDRIVERA

Please?

SUMMIT - Scum lean. It doesn't look like town Summit and I can't find a towny reason for him to vote HR and tie the vote.

MACCA - Null. Which is terribly bad at day 3, but he isn't the kill today. What worries me more is that he is really likely to be on lylo either as town or scum.

RDRIVERA - Obviously town.

[kgray]

@ EVERYONE:

Please declare your Town / Scum / Null read on:

SUMMIT
MACCA
RDRIVERA

Please?

They're all null to me... but:

summit has been disappointing this game to say the least. While I don't get any major scumvibes from him, between these three he would be my first guess for scum because I remember thinking he made good points in previous games, and I'm not seeing any of that here.

macca just seems like he's not really paying much attention to the game. I'm hesitant to call his lack of reads scummy because I think it's just as possible that he's town and is in over his head.

I was hoping to keep seeing more things I liked from rdr, and while that hasn't really happened recently, I haven't noticed any huge red flags from him. He's the most towny of these three, imo.

[kgray]

My scumpool right now:

bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian
Macca573
summit_fever

Why is bozo in your scumpool?

[kgray]

I'm still waiting on Macca to answer which exact points Vecna made that singlehandedly convinced him that I was scum D2

I am more concerned with those who avoided your wagon D2, whether you are town or not. kgray and summit look like they did not want to be on your wagon when/if you flipped.

Or maybe I just thought there were better options...

[bozotheclown]

The kgray/summit scum theory would mean HR, HB, and probably even bo_sox are town. That leaves Jamie, rdrivera, and Macca. I think Macca is probably town. kgray could have been bussing either rdrivera or Jamie D1. Jamie never seemed to care much about kgray voting for him, so maybe kgray/summit/Jamie.

[bozotheclown]

@ EVERYONE:

Please declare your Town / Scum / Null read on:

SUMMIT
MACCA
RDRIVERA

Please?

SUMMIT - Scum lean. It doesn't look like town Summit and I can't find a towny reason for him to vote HR and tie the vote.

MACCA - Null. Which is terribly bad at day 3, but he isn't the kill today. What worries me more is that he is really likely to be on lylo either as town or scum.

RDRIVERA - Obviously town.

If Vecna and bo_sox had ended voting for summit instead of HB, which was a strong possibility, summit needed to vote for HR to save himself. Also, summit did not tie the vote, he broke a 3 way tie. I think you are scum reading summit for the wrong reasons, which makes me think you could be scum with him.

[summit_fever]

Summit, can you answer my question as opposed to quoting something and leaving?

How can I explain a mistake? I'm an idiot? I had your post quoted, which included the HR post. I mistakingly thought it was from you and asked you about it. HR post got cut in my final post.

[summit_fever]

##VOTE BOZO because if he's town with me I don't want to win anymore.

Oh my.