MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

Supplemental Vote Count:

Everything is the same as before except there's a bit less time remaining.

[damo666]

Thanks GM

[Hamilton Brian]

SO I see we're at three wagons now. I'll reread RDR and Fox. Anything else specifically suggested to look at? Rereading interactions with Ghug and Bo among the three main wagons (and more)?

Damo and Worcej, what compelled you to move off of me and on to Bob?

[Hamilton Brian]

Never mind, you two. Caught it.

##Vote BobMcBob

[Foxcastle]

Here's my VCA. I've left myself out, because someone else should do that for me.

EMC. EMC's Day 2 and 4 look townie. He went to Chaqa freely with four minutes to go (this was after Flash softed, but before he claimed), and in doing so, dropped the Hamilton wagon out of a 2-vote lead. On D4, he pushed Bo at a critical time, tying him for the lead wagon.

Bozo. Bozo could have been scum D1 watching town hang itself. On D2, he was on Flash, and then shifted to Chaqa just before Flash claimed—although Flash had softed a few couple minutes before, so maybe he saw the writing on the wall? He was voting for one of the contending wagons (Flash) and then said "I'm OK with any of the three" as he voted Chaqa. If he was okay with any of the three, why make put Chaqa in the lead? Maybe he saw Flash softing, wanted credit for bussing, but didn't want to create a rush off flash?

Durga. I think Durga is town, so someone else can go dig into her VCA, but she does push Chaqa at a critical time on D2.

Hamilton. D2, he was getting voted by both Chaqa and Ghug pretty much the whole last two hours before EOD. That makes me think it's pretty unlikely that Hamilton is scum.

Rdrivera. I don't think Rdr is scum, but his VCA isn't helping him. There's not much to read, but on D2, he sat on Yoyo and pushed Flash over Hamilton and Chaqa when they had all been tied.

Summit. If summit is scum, D1 was TvT, and he made several moves late in the day. I think scum-Summit would have been content to sit and watch. He also pushed Chaqa at a critical time on D2 (the second vote on the wagon 30 minutes out), but then didn't move off when Durga and TrP piled on, even though there was plenty of time to find somewhere else to land. He also pushed Bo at a critical time on D4.

TrPrado. D1 isn't much. D2 pushes Chaqa at an important time.

Worcej. Worcej's VCA isn't doing much for him. D1 and D4 don’t tell much. D2, he sat on Summit until 10 minutes out, then moved to Hamilton. It could be a move to protect Chaqa—if it is, it's Worcej being super clever, because the more obvious move to save Chaqa would have been to push Flash farther ahead.

Bob. Nothing worth noting. But Bo's D4 might be exculpatory for him. Bo voted for Bob immediately on D4 before disappearing for most of the day. That seems like iffy scum play if Bob is also scum, but I think it's within range of Bo's play.

So I think my preferred vote order is: Bozo > Worcej > TrPrado > Rdrivera > Summit > Bob > EMC > Durga > Hamilton

[bozotheclown]

Here's my VCA. I've left myself out, because someone else should do that for me.

EMC. EMC's Day 2 and 4 look townie. He went to Chaqa freely with four minutes to go (this was after Flash softed, but before he claimed), and in doing so, dropped the Hamilton wagon out of a 2-vote lead. On D4, he pushed Bo at a critical time, tying him for the lead wagon.

Bozo. Bozo could have been scum D1 watching town hang itself. On D2, he was on Flash, and then shifted to Chaqa just before Flash claimed—although Flash had softed a few couple minutes before, so maybe he saw the writing on the wall? He was voting for one of the contending wagons (Flash) and then said "I'm OK with any of the three" as he voted Chaqa. If he was okay with any of the three, why make put Chaqa in the lead? Maybe he saw Flash softing, wanted credit for bussing, but didn't want to create a rush off flash?

Durga. I think Durga is town, so someone else can go dig into her VCA, but she does push Chaqa at a critical time on D2.

Hamilton. D2, he was getting voted by both Chaqa and Ghug pretty much the whole last two hours before EOD. That makes me think it's pretty unlikely that Hamilton is scum.

Rdrivera. I don't think Rdr is scum, but his VCA isn't helping him. There's not much to read, but on D2, he sat on Yoyo and pushed Flash over Hamilton and Chaqa when they had all been tied.

Summit. If summit is scum, D1 was TvT, and he made several moves late in the day. I think scum-Summit would have been content to sit and watch. He also pushed Chaqa at a critical time on D2 (the second vote on the wagon 30 minutes out), but then didn't move off when Durga and TrP piled on, even though there was plenty of time to find somewhere else to land. He also pushed Bo at a critical time on D4.

TrPrado. D1 isn't much. D2 pushes Chaqa at an important time.

Worcej. Worcej's VCA isn't doing much for him. D1 and D4 don’t tell much. D2, he sat on Summit until 10 minutes out, then moved to Hamilton. It could be a move to protect Chaqa—if it is, it's Worcej being super clever, because the more obvious move to save Chaqa would have been to push Flash farther ahead.

Bob. Nothing worth noting. But Bo's D4 might be exculpatory for him. Bo voted for Bob immediately on D4 before disappearing for most of the day. That seems like iffy scum play if Bob is also scum, but I think it's within range of Bo's play.

So I think my preferred vote order is: Bozo > Worcej > TrPrado > Rdrivera > Summit > Bob > EMC > Durga > Hamilton

You did not cover why you think I would have bussed bo_sox D4.

I voted for Chaqa D2 to break what I thought was a three way tie at 5. I had not seen flash's vote yet that made it 6-5-4.

[Durga]

##vote Bob
##vote end

[damo666]

##end

[worcej]

Also willing to ##end

I don’t see this day giving us more information from Bob and what does come can be discussed in night phase

[rdrivera2005]

Fine to me.

##end

[dargorygel]

GM NOTE
We are two end votes short... And I am not staying up to watch. So if we get to six "ends" please immediately stop posting. Jamie or I will finish the day when we see the vote. But kindly self regulate. Thanks

[Hamilton Brian]

Where have I seen this played out before? Durga,If Bob flips town, are you willing to get hung next?

[Durga]

Where have I seen this played out before? Durga,If Bob flips town, are you willing to get hung next?

No? I don't even want bob I want rdr. Wtf, why me?

I'm ending on bob because the day is dead and we have enough miskills that it doesn't actually matter.

[Hamilton Brian]

Given where we’re at and what we currently know, I’m going to break my own rule and

##end

[Hamilton Brian]

I'm ending on bob because the day is dead and we have enough miskills that it doesn't actually matter.

Just bitter recent memory.

[Durga]

I'm ending on bob because the day is dead and we have enough miskills that it doesn't actually matter.

Just bitter recent memory.

i mean, our clear PR is ending here, so don't worry too much

[summit_fever]

I'll end if I can know the result now.

##CALL GM

You around?

[summit_fever]

I'll end if I can know the result now.

##CALL GM

You around?

Well that's not fair of me
##end

[summit_fever]

##unend
##vote bob
##end

[summit_fever]

NO POSTING