MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[worcej]

@rdr I have invited you to make a case on me or literally anyone else since you keep shading me. I'd like to see it.

I won't make a case on you as I don't think you are scum. Maybe 3P, but for sure you are not the kill today. I am just upset because you seem to be reading and posting but can't understand the setup and take a lot of posting and not content as town indicative.

And I don't make big cases, I don't believe on them and you played with me long enough to know this. My scumreads are based mostly on POE and I don't pretend to be completely sure about anything. Bob could be just a misguided town that write in a hedgy and convoluted way? Yes, he can, but I think it's more likely he is scum.
Fox could be really trying to scumhunt with that sheet/graph? Yes, but I think it's more likely he made that counting references instead of analyzing interactions (which I had many) with Ghug, just to shade me and Bob (which in this case isn't his scumpartner and that's why I am happy with me x Fox) and this fit what I remember from Fox as scum.

I answer all things people questioned me in good faith (I remember Vecna, Summit and Worcej at least). I stated my opinion everytime I can and I don't remember you considering it. You didn't make any question, you just keep shading me and I don't understand this play.

I'm not just shading you, I'm voting for you. You keep calling me scummy but not doing anything else about it, that's what I don't like.

I'm just trying to figure this out ok? I don't wanna miskill you. Fox as scum pretends to be engaged but isn't? I always thought Fox!scum is really amiable and he seems rough here.

I've seen him be both rough and amiable, so I don't consider his tone to be AI when it comes to Fox.

[worcej]

It's definitely opportunistic from bozo.

Agreed - and bozo was pushing my lynch heavily in certain periods over others.

Do you think he is more likely to be 3P over the present case for Bo?

[e.m.c^42]

Ey, I ain't dead! EMC has returned from the wild lands of, well, elsewhere.

[worcej]

We really, really need two new wagons.

Such as rdr and bob or something else?

[worcej]

Ey, I ain't dead! EMC has returned from the wild lands of, well, elsewhere.

I cannot wait to watch you meet the posting requirements and vote something worthless since you've missed the entire phase.

[e.m.c^42]

To save time imma respond reading both backwards and forwards, so if things aren't correct chronologically, do forgive me.

[damo666]

Based entirely on voting patterns I think the only possible scumpairs are the following 7

bo Fox
bo rdr
bo seth
bo Bob
Fox Bob
rdr seth
seth Bob

bo appears 4 times, Bob and seth thrice, Fox and rdr twice.

Who wants to zap bo?

[Foxcastle]

I won't make a case on you as I don't think you are scum. Maybe 3P, but for sure you are not the kill today. I am just upset because you seem to be reading and posting but can't understand the setup and take a lot of posting and not content as town indicative.

And I don't make big cases, I don't believe on them and you played with me long enough to know this. My scumreads are based mostly on POE and I don't pretend to be completely sure about anything. Bob could be just a misguided town that write in a hedgy and convoluted way? Yes, he can, but I think it's more likely he is scum.
Fox could be really trying to scumhunt with that sheet/graph? Yes, but I think it's more likely he made that counting references instead of analyzing interactions (which I had many) with Ghug, just to shade me and Bob (which in this case isn't his scumpartner and that's why I am happy with me x Fox) and this fit what I remember from Fox as scum.

I answer all things people questioned me in good faith (I remember Vecna, Summit and Worcej at least). I stated my opinion everytime I can and I don't remember you considering it. You didn't make any question, you just keep shading me and I don't understand this play.

I'm not just shading you, I'm voting for you. You keep calling me scummy but not doing anything else about it, that's what I don't like.

I'm just trying to figure this out ok? I don't wanna miskill you. Fox as scum pretends to be engaged but isn't? I always thought Fox!scum is really amiable and he seems rough here.

I've seen him be both rough and amiable, so I don't consider his tone to be AI when it comes to Fox.

He tunnels as scum and as town! He's rough and he's amiable! He is the best of times, he is the worst of times! He floats like a lepidopteria and stings like a hymenoptera! HE IS.... THE AMAZING... WHATEVER WORCEJ DECIDES IS SCUMMY TODAY!!!

[damo666]

Alright damo, time to prove your worth and take the lead as town clear.

I've said what I want. We should kill rdr and in the unlikely event he flips town Bob is a near certainty.

I don't really understand voting outside these two.

rdr preferable to Bob in case Bob is warlock pick.

Unless Fox has something brilliant on why it's not rdr that is where we should be.

(Could it be Fox and rdr? That would be funny).

Pretty unfortunate our townclear is Damo and that he has no power left, so scum might let him live longer.

Thanks rdr!

[e.m.c^42]

Ey, I ain't dead! EMC has returned from the wild lands of, well, elsewhere.

I cannot wait to watch you meet the posting requirements and vote something worthless since you've missed the entire phase.

Hey now, don't blame the worthless vote on my absence, don't I end up off on vanity more often when I'm active? lol

[Durga]

Emc, I swear you're like always online, so why lurk until 5 hours before EoD?

[Foxcastle]

Based entirely on voting patterns I think the only possible scumpairs are the following 7

bo Fox
bo rdr
bo seth
bo Bob
Fox Bob
rdr seth
seth Bob

bo appears 4 times, Bob and seth thrice, Fox and rdr twice.

Who wants to zap bo?

Can you... just explain any of this?

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

[damo666]

##vote Fox until you tell me why not rdr

[Foxcastle]

##vote Fox until you tell me why not rdr

Fine. Because I think I know who a PR is and based on some information there, I think Rdr is not scum. It's not certain, and I'm not going to explain who I think that is, but it makes enough sense to me that Rdr is now down at the bottom of my list.

[e.m.c^42]

Emc, I swear you're like always online, so why lurk until 5 hours before EoD?

Alas, not this time. You can track my reading from what GM posts have +1 and which don't, lol

[damo666]

Based entirely on voting patterns I think the only possible scumpairs are the following 7

bo Fox
bo rdr
bo seth
bo Bob
Fox Bob
rdr seth
seth Bob

bo appears 4 times, Bob and seth thrice, Fox and rdr twice.

Who wants to zap bo?

Can you... just explain any of this?

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

There are 13 players left. I omit myself and 7 others I deem town which leaves 5. There are 10 possible pairs from 5. Three of these 5 are unlikely from VCA which leaves the 7 quoted. Voila.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 4.6

Foxcastle (6) - Rdrivera, worcej, Summit, Seth, Bozotheclown, Damo666
rdrivera2005 (3) - BobMcBob, Durga, TrPrado
BobMcBob (1) - Bo_Sox
Summit_Fever (1) - Foxcastle
EMC^42 (1) - Hamilton Brian

FOXCASTLE is set to be hanged.

EMC still needs to vote.

4 hours and 10 minutes remain in the day.

[damo666]

##vote Fox until you tell me why not rdr

Fine. Because I think I know who a PR is and based on some information there, I think Rdr is not scum. It's not certain, and I'm not going to explain who I think that is, but it makes enough sense to me that Rdr is now down at the bottom of my list.

OK ##vote bo

[Hamilton Brian]

Based entirely on voting patterns I think the only possible scumpairs are the following 7

bo Fox
bo rdr
bo seth
bo Bob
Fox Bob
rdr seth
seth Bob

bo appears 4 times, Bob and seth thrice, Fox and rdr twice.

Who wants to zap bo?

Can you... just explain any of this?

Thank you; I went over to mafiascum to read up on VCA but I wasn't seeing anything that helped me make sense of this.

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

[Foxcastle]

Based entirely on voting patterns I think the only possible scumpairs are the following 7

bo Fox
bo rdr
bo seth
bo Bob
Fox Bob
rdr seth
seth Bob

bo appears 4 times, Bob and seth thrice, Fox and rdr twice.

Who wants to zap bo?

Can you... just explain any of this?

Because for all I know, you've cherrypicked some pairs and "based on voting patterns" means nothing.

There are 13 players left. I omit myself and 7 others I deem town which leaves 5. There are 10 possible pairs from 5. Three of these 5 are unlikely from VCA which leaves the 7 quoted. Voila.

Care to explain why you omit those 7 others, and why three of those pairs are unlikely?

And do you understand why it's important to do that rather than just making bald-faced assertions and throwing naked statistics out?