MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

Interesting thought. I somewhat agree.

One could make the case that he was dead meat walking as scum as well if he didnt pull off some marvelous trick to change everyone's opinion, but to risk it like that with that vote at that moment......probably something scum would only do if the literal scumteam is Bob and Worcej.

I thought he was in Australia and asleep or something?

my point is: Theres no way selfvoting as scum the way worcej did isnt gamethrowing unless he and bob are scum together, and their team needs a miracle to happen.

Im more and more of the opinion Worcej is just town that has had to deal with the death-tunnel all game.

To call it a death tunnel is ridiculously generous. You can't possibly think he's been so victimized. Anyway, I came to this conclusion a bit ago. It's a huge shame we couldn't flip the Yoyoyozo slot here.

[Durga]

but then again, its worcej, and he's being all sorts of convincing right now, so maybe he was planning this.

I dont think thats whats really happening here though

I'm pretty sure I've had this exact shouting match with town worcej before. Strange déjà-vu going on here.

[Durga]

Also, Seth got scummier to me. Gonna reread D2 this evening and see what I can pull from it.

[Vecna]

Yeah, that seth slot sure is a wild one.

I was having loads of good vibes before, but the closer it got to EoD, it just sort of seemed like panic started setting in.

He even started yelling of scumreads on my slot which kinda seemed to come from nowhere. real headscratcher.

[TrPrado]

It will probably be worthwhile to push Seth tomorrow.

[worcej]

I did it with more than a minute to go, only in order to be on the wagon with more votes to prevent the tie. you literally self voted AFTER i voted my last vote

Kiddie gloves off.

Durga - literally your entire 'idk what is going on' and 'I just don't want a tie' attitude is bullshit. You moved your vote 3 times in the last two minutes between seth, bob, and myself. Your chaos was a huge part OF THIS PROBLEM!

Have you even READ Durga? What about any of her posts have indicated she doesn’t know what’s going on? That she didn’t read the setup D1?

Yes - have you not seen her call out slots and question her reads non-stop? It comes off as noise.

Then there is crap like this:

Agh I miss xorxes I just want to sheep someone smarter than me ((

How many miskills before it's game over for us?

I haven't read the set up fully so I'm not even gonna pretend to understand what's going on there

Wait wait wait. Does mafia have a roleblock?

Then now add the end of the day:

its 3-3-3-3 this fucking sucks

gah!! just dont want to tie it

Then moves her vote 3 times to make it more confusing.

[worcej]

Not to mention that when we do change our view of him he calls it scummy. I have no idea how to deal with this kind of person. But I guess yelling ain't it.

Point at a moment where your view actually changed, meaning you believed I am town, instead of you being wishy-washy most of the phase and feigning ignorance.

The more I think about it the less it seems like worcej is scum. What kind of insane bold ass play would that be.

That quote does not say 'I believe he is town' and leaves the door open to walk back and vote me.

[e.m.c^42]

I agree with Vecna. Either worce is town, since he'd be literally playing against his wincon self voting at that point as 3P, and suiciding when he didn't need to as scum, or both worce and bob are scum, and worce was thinking that bob was less likely to get lynched in the future than he.

I don't think anyone aimed this for a tie, since I'm pretty sure the only reason people got it wrong trying to avoid the tie was because of the disparity between seeing my bob vote here but not seeing the number on the bot.

so, whether he likes it or not, he's probably town and not going to be a wagon going forth.

[e.m.c^42]

The only other scenario I can think of is that Jamie meant for the Warlock role to send in a prediction before the game started, for Day 1, and worcej predicted himself for today's kill after somehow accurately getting both Bungo and Chaqa.

But that seems unlikely, to say the least. Lol

[worcej]

You know Tr, I'm pretty impressed by your ability to pocket me so effectively by parroting everything I'm saying

You don't need a white knight.

Actually address my question.

[e.m.c^42]

Here is reality: too many of you are stuck on me as scum and NOTHING I CAN SAY IS STOPPING THIS!

I don't think this is true at all. Just look at all the people who swapped on you, lol. There is maybe two people who scumread you consistently, and that's bozo and like, foxC

[Durga]

You know Tr, I'm pretty impressed by your ability to pocket me so effectively by parroting everything I'm saying

You don't need a white knight.

Actually address my question.

Honestly, you're targeting me unnecessarily again and it feels a little unfair and alienating. I would really prefer not to engage with you and this type of aggression anymore, so I really won't be answering your question (whatever it is). I would also like it if you stopped directing questions at me. I don't deal well with this type of bullying and I've been trying to mitigate my anger by ignoring you but you continue to tunnel on me.

If you'd like to engage like adults stop being rude to me and actually read my posts before you quote 4 posts out of context and claim that this is the end all be all. Given I have 447 posts, over a hundred more than 2nd place, I think you'll need a little more than that to make your point.

If you think this is a scummy response then just vote for me. It's not worth it for me to attempt to prove you wrong because you're not going to ever listen to me and I acknowledge that.

[e.m.c^42]

We really don't think about you as much as you think we do...

[e.m.c^42]

Putting worce aside since he's settled enough (if we need to check he's scum then wagoning and offing bob would do it, if the theory of rational play holds true)

I'm really not sure how Prado is so amazingly...null. He just like, doesn't register for me lmao

[Foxcastle]

Here is reality: too many of you are stuck on me as scum and NOTHING I CAN SAY IS STOPPING THIS!

I don't think this is true at all. Just look at all the people who swapped on you, lol. There is maybe two people who scumread you consistently, and that's bozo and like, foxC

Do you have me muted? This is like the third time you've said something that is contradictory to my recent posts.

[worcej]

Here is reality: too many of you are stuck on me as scum and NOTHING I CAN SAY IS STOPPING THIS!

I don't think this is true at all. Just look at all the people who swapped on you, lol. There is maybe two people who scumread you consistently, and that's bozo and like, foxC

I am sorry, but before my stunt, the people who were scumming me somewhat were Vecna, bozo, Foxcastle, and Durga. There were several people 'okay' with flipping me.

[e.m.c^42]

Here is reality: too many of you are stuck on me as scum and NOTHING I CAN SAY IS STOPPING THIS!

I don't think this is true at all. Just look at all the people who swapped on you, lol. There is maybe two people who scumread you consistently, and that's bozo and like, foxC

Do you have me muted? This is like the third time you've said something that is contradictory to my recent posts.

From before EOD :D

[Foxcastle]

I don't think this is true at all. Just look at all the people who swapped on you, lol. There is maybe two people who scumread you consistently, and that's bozo and like, foxC

Do you have me muted? This is like the third time you've said something that is contradictory to my recent posts.

From before EOD :D

Ah. I parsed it as the present tense. Sorry.

[e.m.c^42]

I am sorry, but before my stunt, the people who were scumming me somewhat were Vecna, bozo, Foxcastle, and Durga. There were several people 'okay' with flipping me.

I read it a little differently, but considering I'm not the one being wagoned, can't really say anything. Nothing we can do about it now, but at least the self voting bore some fruit lol.

and alright, you case on Durga (as I understand it) is due to mainly one meta shift, which is being more engaged/less certain compared to being less engaged/more confident, which you associate with scum!Durga and town!Durga respectively, no?

but do you think her actions actually match up to said meta, or being scum though? She has had quite a few cocksure reads (certainly more than the indecisive parts), and I don't feel some of the posts she would make if she was scum.

[Vecna]

I think ghug is laughing at us from the sidelines