MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[worcej]

Going to go with my other scum read since no one wants to believe my case of Durga

##vote Foxcastle

Case outlined and presented in my text wall.

[Durga]

I actively dislike you as a human being I think worcej. I don't understand why you target me every time but it's pathetic. If you go back and actually read d1 and you come to the same conclusion then you should really quit mafia. Unless you're scum ofc, in that case good job on getting me pissed off.

I think BobMcBob is a good lynch for today. Yoyo's d1 was weird, and is still weird on re-read. BobMcBob has done nothing but claim to be confused and rereading. Constantly, rereading, always.

[TrPrado]

Oh wait Matthew is the name of the mafia lie detector?

[seth24c]

Oh wait Matthew is the name of the mafia lie detector?

Yes the role could have been either lie detector or tamperer but it ended up being tamperer.

[Durga]

Certainly, I felt that ghug was suspicious on day 1, in this post I was trying to get ghug to be more specific because I felt like he kept trying to get me to talk/pocket me without saying much of substance himself. Ghug and vecna has also had the interaction earlier where vecna had asked ghug when they would role mafia together and I felt ghug had a weird response to that interaction so I wanted to hear more from him about vecna particularly. I also asked someone else, I think it was you, why they townread vecna on day 1 because I don't know everyone's meta and vecna hadn't felt town to me at that point.

This is interesting because why did you ask about Vecna like five times and never ask about ghug given you thought ghug was sus and the interaction was weird?

Because I wanted to get ghug talking in substance about someone else. I felt there was better potential to get information if he was talking about someone else than if I had attacked him directly and he got defensive. The reason I asked why town read vecna was also just to try to get some non mech conversation going if I remember correctly. That was one of the first posts where anyone had townread anyone so I was curious where that read had come from.

I guess I just don't get why you asked other people about Vecna but not about ghug.

[damo666]

I interpret the Seth Matthew thing as Seth taunting ghug and just a coincidence that ghug flipped MH. It would be an awfully brave thing to do as scum.

I'm pretty happy with my Bob vote.

I am now definitely NOT voting worcej or Seth today.

The only others I might consider are Bo and rdr but I think Bob is the way to go.

[TrPrado]

Oh wait Matthew is the name of the mafia lie detector?

Yes the role could have been either lie detector or tamperer but it ended up being tamperer.

That is kinda weird...

[Foxcastle]

Worcej thinks I tunnel as town (possibly true, can't say myself since I always think I'm onto something). But also says that I'm cherrypicking a case on him and pushing him selectively because I'm scum and think he'll be an easy lynch. Even though I've been scumreading him since Day 1, he thinks I've backed off because on D2 I didn't spend every single one of my posts trying to get him lynched even when it was clear that there wasn't interest in flipping him and I had other scumreads that were wagons.

So which is it, Worcej? Am I relentless townie with tunnelvision? Or scum pushing for a mis-kill? You can't have it both ways.

[Durga]

Too many 'idk what is going on' type posts and being wishy-washy. It is all noise and appearing like she is participating. She has also put up a lot of posts this game, unlike 'normal' games, and she herself has said that she tries more as scum

I love that
a) I'm pretending not to know what's going on (fucking load of bullshit I have pushed and participated more than anyone but maybe Vecna - and I've never assumed to know everything that would be fucking ridiculous and also only scum has solid info)
b) worcej thinks I'm trying hard in this game

There is some tension between the idea that I'm doing nothing but that also I'm trying hard. I would call you a liar but you're actually this dumb so who knows.

[Durga]

Worcej thinks I tunnel as town (possibly true, can't say myself since I always think I'm onto something). But also says that I'm cherrypicking a case on him and pushing him selectively because I'm scum and think he'll be an easy lynch. Even though I've been scumreading him since Day 1, he thinks I've backed off because on D2 I didn't spend every single one of my posts trying to get him lynched even when it was clear that there wasn't interest in flipping him and I had other scumreads that were wagons.

So which is it, Worcej? Am I relentless townie with tunnelvision? Or scum pushing for a mis-kill? You can't have it both ways.

Great, so he was inherently contradictory in his analysis of both of his scum reads. A fucking classic.

[summit_fever]

I'd go worcej over flash and Chaqa at this point.

Same here, not buying that what chaqa said about HB was a scum slip.

LOL great call Seth.

You're willing to toot your own horn here, but not on calling your shot with ghug?

[seth24c]

This is interesting because why did you ask about Vecna like five times and never ask about ghug given you thought ghug was sus and the interaction was weird?

Because I wanted to get ghug talking in substance about someone else. I felt there was better potential to get information if he was talking about someone else than if I had attacked him directly and he got defensive. The reason I asked why town read vecna was also just to try to get some non mech conversation going if I remember correctly. That was one of the first posts where anyone had townread anyone so I was curious where that read had come from.

I guess I just don't get why you asked other people about Vecna but not about ghug.

I mean if you want the honest answer, I felt like that strategy just wasn't working very well. I think I only asked about vecna two or three times total and I've explained my reasoning for these two times. Once was because I didn't understand a town read of them. And the other was because I wanted to get ghug to talk.

[seth24c]

Same here, not buying that what chaqa said about HB was a scum slip.

LOL great call Seth.

You're willing to toot your own horn here, but not on calling your shot with ghug?

I'm making fun of myself here for agreeing with both players who are exposed scum. I had forgot I even made the matthew joke with ghug to be honest.

[TrPrado]

Bringing this back for emc, Prado, seth, and Fox.

Yeah sure ##VOTE BO

reason?

Comedy. But also bo seems kinda weird. His reaction to Vecna at EOD yesterday (Vecna switching from flash to Hamilton, both of whom bo said he scumread) has kept me kind of on edge with him. His reaction to Durga’s push has been really odd, he just keeps finding ways of saying “man this is a super important interaction that can tell us a lot” but simultaneously “I don’t like reading these interactions” (the implication from the latter I’ve gotten from him is that these kind of interactions are pointless but if I’m just reading into it feel free to disagree).

[Durga]

I feel like it's kinda scummy to forget you called a player a very specific mafia name (one that I didn't even know until I went to look up who "matthew" was when I read your comment)

Also, who do you scum read seth? and why

[seth24c]

I interpret the Seth Matthew thing as Seth taunting ghug and just a coincidence that ghug flipped MH. It would be an awfully brave thing to do as scum.

I'm pretty happy with my Bob vote.

I am now definitely NOT voting worcej or Seth today.

The only others I might consider are Bo and rdr but I think Bob is the way to go.

It is really interesting to see some people continue pushing me on it.

[bo_sox48]

Oh wait Matthew is the name of the mafia lie detector?

Yes the role could have been either lie detector or tamperer but it ended up being tamperer.

That's true. I suppose I can accept it not being a scumslip since that wasn't actually his role. Fiiiiiiiine

[Durga]

I interpret the Seth Matthew thing as Seth taunting ghug and just a coincidence that ghug flipped MH. It would be an awfully brave thing to do as scum.

I'm pretty happy with my Bob vote.

I am now definitely NOT voting worcej or Seth today.

The only others I might consider are Bo and rdr but I think Bob is the way to go.

It is really interesting to see some people continue pushing me on it.

Ok but seriously damo how do you forget such a specific targeted comment combined with the fact that he was obsessed with vecna for doing something ghug did too. I am just not getting satisfying answers here.

[summit_fever]

LOL great call Seth.

You're willing to toot your own horn here, but not on calling your shot with ghug?

I'm making fun of myself here for agreeing with both players who are exposed scum. I had forgot I even made the matthew joke with ghug to be honest.

Hmm. My bad.

[Durga]

Oh wait Matthew is the name of the mafia lie detector?

Yes the role could have been either lie detector or tamperer but it ended up being tamperer.

That's true. I suppose I can accept it not being a scumslip since that wasn't actually his role. Fiiiiiiiine

Huh, isn't it even weirder that he used "Matthew" instead of calling him the lie detector?