MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Hamilton Brian]

I find it hard to reason why three scum would land on the same wagon. Unless they were certain it would have held traction. I guess if it had worked then it would have directed a lot of questioning towards them of why they killed another VT. I suppose the risk in the play comes from knowing the next day they would have to bus one of the team.

Of course they didn’t expect to lose ghug at night either so that really changed things.

Probably would make them look worse by jumping on a last-minute wagon.

Who’s got the shittier-looking D2 EoDs?

[Hamilton Brian]

Interesting too that no one jumped off of Chaqa when the wagon took the lead.

As a matter of fact, Seth did jump off me and on to Chaqa? Scum self-preservation?

[summit_fever]

I hate it and it's just a way for scum to pretend they're useful and look how useless this day one has been with everyone just being like I aM tOwN aNd mY wiN conDitIoN iS ToWn

My guess is that it is more common for scum to claim players talking about "mechanics" are pretending to look useful than it is for scum to pretend to look useful by talking about mechanics.

It's well-established that you have no clue what you're talking about.

The problem is less that it's scum indicative to do so (though it can be) and more that it's not indicative of anything. The people excited to talk about mechanics are the people excited to talk about mechanics. Other than establishing things that everyone needs to be aware of (we could have all said "I am town" in a page and a half and been done with it), it's a waste of tone that makes it more difficult to glean information.

Please go away now.

I'm sorry, I'm being unnecessarily abrasive. I've had a bad day.

[summit_fever]

I find it hard to reason why three scum would land on the same wagon. Unless they were certain it would have held traction. I guess if it had worked then it would have directed a lot of questioning towards them of why they killed another VT. I suppose the risk in the play comes from knowing the next day they would have to bus one of the team.

Of course they didn’t expect to lose ghug at night either so that really changed things.

Probably would make them look worse by jumping on a last-minute wagon.

Who’s got the shittier-looking D2 EoDs?

What do you make of the end of day?

[Hamilton Brian]

I didn’t think that response was so bad as to merit an apology. It’s not like he called him a c**t. Are you thinking there’s more of a chance of a ghug-bozo team?

[Hamilton Brian]

My thoughts about EOD are still evolving. Flash claimed at the 2 minute mark. There was movement from Flash to Chaqa: bozo, fox, rdr.

[Durga]

if bozo is scum it makes sense why ghug didn't go hard on insulting him which i would have expected too.

Wait ghug said something to bozo that caused him to apologise right after and I thought the apology was warranted.

ok the fact that ghug apologized was enough for anyone to scum read him

[summit_fever]

if bozo is scum it makes sense why ghug didn't go hard on insulting him which i would have expected too.

Wait ghug said something to bozo that caused him to apologise right after and I thought the apology was warranted.

ok the fact that ghug apologized was enough for anyone to scum read him

Probably. In hindsight he was pocketing me.

What prompted the bozo scum read though?

[Durga]

Wait ghug said something to bozo that caused him to apologise right after and I thought the apology was warranted.

ok the fact that ghug apologized was enough for anyone to scum read him

Probably. In hindsight he was pocketing me.

What prompted the bozo scum read though?

for ghug?

[Durga]

I don't believe that worcej believes this is a possibility.

##vote worcej

Then I guess we need to consult with worcej?

worcej, what do you think? *muffled noises into his headset*

Hmm... apparently he thinks you're a tool for that post summit...

Really though? Chaqa asked for a bus and it went down in that way? This would explain his shitposting with an hour or two to go I guess...and durga was the first scum on the bus? She definitely pushed it in a way that nobody else did. Is this one of the reasons you think she's scum?

I can't tell -- do you believe this, summit?

[Durga]

I don't know if I should be surprised that Bozo didn't bite on this one immediately.

There are no connections to help find the 3P, but if we concentrate on finding the remaining mafia, we might hit the 3P, or the mafia could do it for us.

Although, the 3P could be one of the other low volume posters, trying to avoid the DK and NK.

THis is likely. Rdr comes to mind. FoxCastle also comes to mind

[Durga]

Okay - hold on. So, witch auto wins if our 2 PR's die right? So... We should kill for 3p? Not sure how to go about doing this

[bozotheclown]

Because I thought Yoyo was more scummy?
By the way, I am not so sure you are town anymore.

Do you think I was bussing ghug?

When? I don't remember you voting Ghug and neither the bot.

I was talking about N2.

[bozotheclown]

She may not have been the first scum on the bus. There is still the potential of Vecna and yourself if we are determining ‘first’

So you think that it is possible that with 30 minutes to go, and the top 4 wagons town, 2 of Vecna, summit, and Durga decided it would be a good time to bus a mafia PR? If so, why did ghug sit out the bus?

I agree with you on theory, but how do you know the top 4 wagons are town?

I was saying that is part of worcej's theory. At the time of Chaqa's first vote, Hamilton, worcej, flash, and Bob were the top 4 wagons, and in worcej's theory the remaining 2 scum are in Vecna, summit, and Durga, although in worcej's theory one of the 4 wagons could have been 3P, if that is what you mean.

[bozotheclown]

So you think that it is possible that with 30 minutes to go, and the top 4 wagons town, 2 of Vecna, summit, and Durga decided it would be a good time to bus a mafia PR? If so, why did ghug sit out the bus?

I agree with you on theory, but how do you know the top 4 wagons are town?

yeah wait what

Again, there are only 2 mafia left, so if worcej thinks the 2 remaining scum are in Vecna, summit, and Durga, he would have to think that none of the top 4 wagons were mafia.

[TrPrado]

I 100% think Durga is scum, but don't think anyone will agree with me at this point.

Do you have a case?

[Durga]

I 100% think Durga is scum, but don't think anyone will agree with me at this point.

Do you have a case?

Two things
1. I'm a little pissed off that people are entertaining that I would bus two scum team members when everyone knows I don't bus. Stop wasting time. This is why y'all keep losing as town.

2. Put TrPrado on the 3rd party potential list. He's the perfect amount of null to be there.

Also, I hate 3ps. I just want to catch scum. This extra bullshit is so boring.

[seth24c]

Hey all, sorry I've been absent, Saturday's are busy. Catching up now.

[Durga]

Oh also someone should look into bo. He made a comment that I thought was really weird before, and now it's even worse. He said something like if you look into my conversation with ghug that you'd be able to figure out our alignments but that he was too lazy to do so? Which I couldn't understand why he would say that or what he meant. But with ghug flipping scum it's a lot more sus.

Although, imagine this scum team: bo+Chaqa+ghug+vecna

I would die laughing. Even if it's just the first three + one random

[Durga]

One more thought - sorry for taking over the thread - I think it's likely Tr is town or 3p but not mafia